2016-12-11, 06:24 | Link #981 |
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you what makes this better? Seig & Berkman team up & found a Germanian time machine which they would use to go back in time to stop Seig's ancestors from betraying Sophie thus all the mess during WW2 never actually happened........ also totally not BL bromance between Seig & Berkman in their adventures..............
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2016-12-11, 08:31 | Link #982 |
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Wow, so Berckmann defected to Eylstadt but I don't think he's trust-worthy, especially Sieghart! BTW, what's Atlanta's role will be now that Germania is planning to use a nuclear weapon? Oh wait, it's made by exenium thanks to Sophie's magic stone. |
2016-12-11, 13:34 | Link #983 | ||
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...no matter what techology it all leads nukes huh?
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2016-12-12, 14:34 | Link #984 |
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It's obvious that it's horrible for Izetta but wow does it also suck for Fine. Having her close friend fight a war that she does not want but have very little other options if she wants to save her country against such a powerful country. Having your friend's life force drained away the more she battles this upcoming battle that pretty much defined her country's fate. Feeling powerless because she can't do anything to help Izetta. The death of her father. Her people and soldiers are dying left and right. And the enemy officer does not even giver her any sense of respect and wants to kill her precious people even after she gave up. And also, it seems to imply, that she knows that even if they do win the war against Germania, other country will feel threatened because of Izetta (like the United States of Atlanta) and they will not be able to live in peace any time soon.
Although we don't know Fine's age, she's most likely around the age of Izetta. With all that happened, that's too much of a burden upon someone who should not really have to carry such a burden at that age. I don't blame her at all to feel very tired this episode. In fact, the fact that she managed well thus far is really a significant feat as well. She really does have a lot of potential and what it takes to be an Archduchess but wow does it suck to be her at the moment. Seriously, I rather not have anyone else die by the end. But it would totally make more sense if Izetta does die at the very end since that will also solve the problem of other countries no longer feeling threatened by a witch. On the other hand, I hoped that when Izetta said "I learned something about the stone", perhaps she found a good way to use it without killing herself? Or at the very least, she used a lot of power so it shortened her lifespan significantly but she still have a good amount of years left to live the way she wants with Fine? So more of a bittersweet ending?
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2016-12-12, 16:28 | Link #985 | |
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And yes, that was before Sophie. Her appearance may actually cause them to re-evaluate in the "we need Izetta alive" direction. Because, while they might prefer the world to have zero witches, they absolutely don't want the possibility of one or more witches working for powerful hostile countries while they themselves have no friendly witches. And they have no guarantee that Izetta and Sophie are, indeed, the last two witches in the world. |
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2016-12-12, 18:01 | Link #986 | |
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So perhaps Fine and Izetta can finally gain some peace? Seriously though, I do not envy Fine's position. I don't think anyone would want to be in that position anyways. Unless you're an M Though I do kind of envy those around her since I do thinking being able to work under someone like her and being close to Izetta would be really cool Who else thinks so?
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2016-12-13, 03:39 | Link #987 | |
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2016-12-13, 07:19 | Link #988 |
is this so?
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Finished watching episode 10
Nice episode. Really shows how much respect the Elystadt soldiers have for Izetta.. one pilot literally kamikaze his plane into a german truck while screaming "majo dono!", the soldiers rush to rescue her despite being outnumbered and without tanks, the guy who carried Izetta put his own helmet on her to give her some protection.. and run in the field without any helmet himself. And the government people have respect for her too. Looks like she won't be betrayed like what happened to the white witch. I like how this show has alternate names to places and people.. for example.. London is Londenion, USA is Atlanta, and the Russians are Volgans. Sophie really is strong.. looks like she did a more powerful version of The Blitz to the british. Only a few episodes left. Hoping for a happy ending for Fine and Izetta.
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2016-12-16, 16:42 | Link #990 |
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Some interesting main characters and a plot that develops them and doesn't resort to petty magic tricks. Ended up dropping Izetta after episode 9 for all intents and purposes even though I practically never drop anything I follow past episode 2. Will probably skim through the last episode for the laughs. It's really a pity how the creators killed an interesting idea with poor execution.
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2016-12-17, 11:06 | Link #991 |
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Episode 12 just confirmed how bad is this series and how much potential was throw into the garbage.
The fight against the white witch was pure cringe, a few characters died (and they NEVER got any type of development) then Izetta finally won against her. Then all the drama with the super bomb and again, Mary Sue saved the day. After all of that the studio went with the Izetta/Fine ending... what the hell? they keep the yuri bait even at the end of the series really? aside that we got the happy ending, Izetta obviously with some damage in her body after the fight with the white witch and now the world is a safe place at least for now. Overall the series started with a lot of potential, a lot of details to be explored and a whole bunch of interesting characters that deserved more screentime but in the end we got Izetta being overpowered as hell defeating everyone in the series including armies, the usual asspull to defeat the bad guy, a bunch of fanservice and unnecessary yuri bait, plot holes everywhere, characters being throw into the oblivion, etc. Shuumatsu no Izetta deserves a 3/10, started in a good way but ended on being a really bad series and sometimes delivering ridiculous episodes. Now we're gonna have a christmas special so technically the series ended here and the next episode can be considered a OVA (?). |
2016-12-17, 12:27 | Link #992 |
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Literally a magical battle in the airs between the two witches for the finale. I guess they had to go with this route since it's both sides' strongest weapon at this point. (neat music they used during the fight imo)
We also got a bit of the aftermath from that magical flight from the previous episode between Fine and Izetta as the princess questions what Izetta is fighting for. So in essence, everything led up to this point. I pretty much expected it to be a power struggle not to mention a reflection of the war events. Personally, I'm not sure having Izetta surviving the war is a good idea. I would of went with a route that had her be remembered as a hero.
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2016-12-17, 13:02 | Link #993 |
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Yeah, I'm not sure on the route of having Izetta alive. Mostly since it makes no sense. The amount of magic used was devastating. Even if she somehow didn't die during the battle, hard to believe she'd have enough life in her to survive 3 years. At least was getting the impression it didn't simply damage a person but eat at their lifespan. Not to mention the impossibility of her managing to make it to ground without dying. If they used up all the magic....how did she fly to the ground?
Did work out pretty ideally. Barely anyone important died. Though I can somewhat buy the hax of Izetta surviving and not Sophie considering the clone issue. Although in that sense it makes her arguments in the fight feel extremely hollow. Sophie literally had to suffer torture and death. She never got any peppy message beforehand. She was used and sacrificed and that guy never had the nerve to say anything to her about what would end up happening. Plus it's even more hollow because Izetta didn't have to sacrifice anything. She never loved having magic so losing it doesn't bother her. She gets to live peacefully and have a loved one visit her. Oh well. Despite not quite feeling the end to the story it was a decent ride. And at least the battle was over the top and crazy entertainment. In some ways I definitely respect the guy who basically didn't care about the countries or the world, but rather just securing his own life . He definitely got what he wanted. Not a bad effort to mix in some magic and world history. Some decent moments along the way.
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2016-12-17, 13:18 | Link #995 |
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Great episode and ending, Im glad Izetta lived through it all and gave her best effort in the last fight against Sophie. Without their major power assets lost Germania ends up being destroyed not by Elystadt but by their other natural enemies.
Also liked how Basler fate was left ambiguous, he was one of the best characters from the enemy side and didn't really deserve to die (but maybe he did anyway). All in all solid show overall, the hours involved in watching it were worth it. |
2016-12-17, 13:23 | Link #996 |
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Most of the actual fighting action between Izetta and Sophie was a treat to watch, and the animators deserve a lot of credit for that. But there's not much else about this ending that I liked.
I never found Izetta's words to Sophie compelling or persuasive. And the whole conference was pretty farcical. It was also farcical how they just totally rushed through the remainder of WWII. I might have had some respect for this ending if Izetta had been allowed to die a hero. Instead, we arguably get the worst of both worlds. We don't really get to see much triumphant happy time between Fine and Izetta, but we also are denied the boldness and tonal consistency of Izetta dying. This ending is more idealistic than it probably should be given the tone throughout most of the show, and given how this show is inspired in part by the real world World War 2. They have Izetta survive for no other reason than simply having her survive, even when it probably would make more sense if she had died in that huge blast. We get only the tiniest glimpse of the surviving Izetta before the episode ends. So they take the easy way out, and don't even do much with it, really. Honestly, that's very lame to me. There are other complaints I could make about this show as a whole, but I'll leave it at this for now.
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And my namesake (Berkmann) has gone to Atlanta.. I'll give this 7/10.
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2016-12-17, 13:38 | Link #999 |
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Not a bad finale for a one season series. I would've loved to see Izetta's face to see what kind of person she is now after the timeskip. Is she like a living vegetable, or is she still cognitive and aware? Still kinda feel for Sophie's situation. The king did what he thought was right for his people by turning on her like a side piece.
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