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Gunboat Diplomat · 2004-10-09, 19:34

A plethora of groups are subbing this title and I was wondering if anyone can suggest which one I might like. I prefer a more literal translation but I also appreciate coherent English sentences. I also prefer a very clear and simple font.

Thanks for your help!

Tiamat's Disciple · 2004-10-09, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Gunboat Diplomat

A plethora of groups are subbing this title and I was wondering if anyone can suggest which one I might like. I prefer a more literal translation but I also appreciate coherent English sentences. I also prefer a very clear and simple font.

Thanks for your help!

I like Anime Keep's versions of anime. They tend to have a good ballance, and spend a bit of time on their translations. Also the quality of the video is usually exceptional, not that im biased or anything :P

http://a.scarywater.net/akeep/

Meatwad · 2004-10-09, 20:53

Any group but Lunar Anime, the ANBU KEEP joint one is the best (mentioned in the previous post).

Ookla The Mok · 2004-10-09, 22:23

Not everyone planning to sub it has released yet, if you want to keep your options open.

zalas · 2004-10-10, 01:50

http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13681 should give you an idea of the different groups.

Meatwad · 2004-10-10, 01:59

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Originally Posted by zalas

http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13681 should give you an idea of the different groups.

That site is quite biast, best way to go is a personal opinion.

Kasshin · 2004-10-10, 04:19

Well, when there's a review on the translation technicalities, it's not about "opinions" anymore, it's about the facts. Facts that I won't know about, but would want to. Also, seeing someone else's opinion about something is a great help too, sometimes. You may even find people you constantly agree with on most points. Then if they do a (brief) review, it could save you the trouble of downloading all the versions and seeing for yourself. At least it'd help narrow down the number of versions you might check out. Screenshots are usually posted as well; that's definitely much more convenient than downloading a whole episode just to see minor stuff like what the group used for their main dialogue font.

7thMethuselah · 2004-10-10, 05:04

This site might be interesting to you to compare the different fansubbers

http://ultima.hafio.info/

hooliganj · 2004-10-10, 12:07

Since one guy said anybody but Lunar, I'll chime in and say Lunar is the one I'm going with for now. Their translation isn't as 'technically' accurate as A-Keep/Anbu's, but it's because they tried to localize and adapt the dialogue a bit, not because they didn't know what was being said.

And I could care less about Death God (Lunar) vs Soul Reaper (A-Keep/Anbu).

7thMethuselah · 2004-10-10, 13:55

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Originally Posted by hooliganj

Since one guy said anybody but Lunar, I'll chime in and say Lunar is the one I'm going with for now. Their translation isn't as 'technically' accurate as A-Keep/Anbu's, but it's because they tried to localize and adapt the dialogue a bit, not because they didn't know what was being said.

And I could care less about Death God (Lunar) vs Soul Reaper (A-Keep/Anbu).

i went Lunar as well wince they tried to make the dialogue into a soft kind of slang, some won't like this, others will, personally I don't mind, makes the dialogues more real. No one goes around shouting complicated words when they are about the smash someone's skull

A good thing about ANBU/A-Keep is that they do not translate the moves, while Lunar did... Ah well, I can't have it all I guess

crumja · 2004-10-10, 14:22

Personally, I'm holding out for TW.

Crimsonmon · 2004-10-10, 14:37

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Originally Posted by zalas

http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13681 should give you an idea of the different groups.

I'd hardly count on the opinion of those elitists.

zalas · 2004-10-10, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Crimsonmon

I'd hardly count on the opinion of those elitists.

How so? Some of the opinions on that forum are rather not useful, but the threads do link to specific instances of comparisons and also screenshots.

Meatwad · 2004-10-10, 18:59

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Originally Posted by zalas

How so? Some of the opinions on that forum are rather not useful, but the threads do link to specific instances of comparisons and also screenshots.

most are STILL biast reviews, bashing on groups they do not like.

crumja · 2004-10-10, 19:02

As an occasional reviewer on A-Planet, I have to say that, yes, bias is a human trait and is unavoidable in ALL reviews.

Yes, I am biased. That is because certain groups develop reputations. Despite that, we do try our best to give a good recommendation after examining all aspect of the final release.

However, I haven't seen any group bashing (that was allowed by mods) because we do respect everyone's reasons for and mentalities of subbing.

DekaMaster · 2004-10-10, 20:03

A site dedicated to ripping apart fansubs is a lame idea IMO.

crumja · 2004-10-10, 21:17

I think that comment is a bit harsh. We do review all aspects of different groups' versions, both to give viewers information about each without having to download and to provide subbers with areas to improve on (if they care).

What's more, anime-planet's main purpose is to recommend shows. One subforum dedicated to reviewing different versions doesn't mean the site is dedicated to ripping groups.

Meatwad · 2004-10-10, 21:21

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Originally Posted by DekaMaster

A site dedicated to ripping apart fansubs is a lame idea IMO.

I totally agree!

zalas · 2004-10-11, 03:58

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Originally Posted by DekaMaster

A site dedicated to ripping apart fansubs is a lame idea IMO.

Having leechers blindly following whatever fansubbers do is a worse idea. Having an idea of where a fansub is deficient will encourage people to improve.

LytHka · 2004-10-11, 04:10

If you are looking for the best fansub possible it's best to check out APN, especially for the more popular shows like Bleach. I'll agree with crumja: it gets as biased as one human nature can be.

I always check APN forums yet I don't always agree with the OPINIONS and PREFERENCES expressed there. The facts are there and to those facts noone opposes (noone can oppose).

Comments like 'comparing fansubs is silly' usually come from people not caring for the release quality (meaning people who download the first version out there) and fansubbing n00bs not getting their job done right or just lacking confidence in knowing the quality of their work.

2004-10-09, 19:34	Link #1
Gunboat Diplomat Honey Flash! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Age: 49	Can someone recommend a good Bleach fansub? A plethora of groups are subbing this title and I was wondering if anyone can suggest which one I might like. I prefer a more literal translation but I also appreciate coherent English sentences. I also prefer a very clear and simple font. Thanks for your help!

2004-10-09, 20:53	Link #3
Meatwad Banned Join Date: Sep 2004	Any group but Lunar Anime, the ANBU KEEP joint one is the best (mentioned in the previous post).

2004-10-09, 22:23	Link #4
Ookla The Mok Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Torrance, CA	Not everyone planning to sub it has released yet, if you want to keep your options open.

2004-10-10, 01:50	Link #5
zalas tsubasa o sagashite Join Date: Jul 2003	http://www.anime-planet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13681 should give you an idea of the different groups.

2004-10-10, 04:19	Link #7
Kasshin Kasshin X Kasshin Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC	Well, when there's a review on the translation technicalities, it's not about "opinions" anymore, it's about the facts. Facts that I won't know about, but would want to. Also, seeing someone else's opinion about something is a great help too, sometimes. You may even find people you constantly agree with on most points. Then if they do a (brief) review, it could save you the trouble of downloading all the versions and seeing for yourself. At least it'd help narrow down the number of versions you might check out. Screenshots are usually posted as well; that's definitely much more convenient than downloading a whole episode just to see minor stuff like what the group used for their main dialogue font.

2004-10-10, 05:04	Link #8
7thMethuselah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Antwerp area, Belgium, Europa Age: 48	This site might be interesting to you to compare the different fansubbers http://ultima.hafio.info/

2004-10-10, 12:07	Link #9
hooliganj Team Player Join Date: Apr 2004	Since one guy said anybody but Lunar, I'll chime in and say Lunar is the one I'm going with for now. Their translation isn't as 'technically' accurate as A-Keep/Anbu's, but it's because they tried to localize and adapt the dialogue a bit, not because they didn't know what was being said. And I could care less about Death God (Lunar) vs Soul Reaper (A-Keep/Anbu).

2004-10-10, 14:22	Link #11
crumja AnimeONE Do-It-All Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: US Age: 36	Personally, I'm holding out for TW.

2004-10-10, 19:02	Link #15
crumja AnimeONE Do-It-All Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: US Age: 36	As an occasional reviewer on A-Planet, I have to say that, yes, bias is a human trait and is unavoidable in ALL reviews. Yes, I am biased. That is because certain groups develop reputations. Despite that, we do try our best to give a good recommendation after examining all aspect of the final release. However, I haven't seen any group bashing (that was allowed by mods) because we do respect everyone's reasons for and mentalities of subbing.

2004-10-10, 20:03	Link #16
DekaMaster Banned Join Date: Nov 2003	A site dedicated to ripping apart fansubs is a lame idea IMO.

2004-10-10, 21:17	Link #17
crumja AnimeONE Do-It-All Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: US Age: 36	I think that comment is a bit harsh. We do review all aspects of different groups' versions, both to give viewers information about each without having to download and to provide subbers with areas to improve on (if they care). What's more, anime-planet's main purpose is to recommend shows. One subforum dedicated to reviewing different versions doesn't mean the site is dedicated to ripping groups.

2004-10-11, 04:10	Link #20
LytHka Banned Join Date: Jan 2004	If you are looking for the best fansub possible it's best to check out APN, especially for the more popular shows like Bleach. I'll agree with crumja: it gets as biased as one human nature can be. I always check APN forums yet I don't always agree with the OPINIONS and PREFERENCES expressed there. The facts are there and to those facts noone opposes (noone can oppose). Comments like 'comparing fansubs is silly' usually come from people not caring for the release quality (meaning people who download the first version out there) and fansubbing n00bs not getting their job done right or just lacking confidence in knowing the quality of their work.