2008-06-30, 14:27 | Link #881 |
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Hanging and cliff hanger aren't the same. "Hanging" means he didn't finish the story and he let the viewers use their imagination to finish the story. Cliff hanger means that a plot or sub plot ended suddenly leaving the audience in suspense but the plot or sub plot will be resolved in the next episode.
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2008-06-30, 16:04 | Link #882 | |
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Except those that didn't like it can think about what the characters may come across in the rest of their lives. I'm sure the message that Shinkai tried to get across with this movie's ending is how one should be able to learn and move on as denoted in the novel.
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2008-06-30, 22:57 | Link #885 | |
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If that dude ever finishes the story or produce a 30 minute continuation of this anime, it is very likely he will give it a happy ending. It doesn't mean that the two characters will be together but he will definitely give it a happy ending. |
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2008-07-01, 03:21 | Link #886 | ||
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2008-07-07, 21:55 | Link #887 |
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You know, I don't have any special reason to post this - just an overflow of reaction to yet another viewing. This film is so amazing on so many levels, but every time something comes along to put me in mind of it - the blu-ray torrent, the DVD, even a particularly interesting post here - I find myself planted in front of the screen, telling myself I'll just watch a couple minutes, and I end up being unable to stop until I'm all the way through the "One More Time, One More Chance" montage at the end and emotionally drained.
It's funny how a movie - in this case a simple mix of Photoshop and genius - can become a part of you for the rest of your life. 5 CM is always going to be part of my emotional makeup, and it's changed the way I view anime as art, and art itself. Especially "Cherry Blossom" - for all the strength of the other chapters, that's the one my mind always jumps to at the oddest moments. As a mixture of visual imagery and simple emotional truth, it's hard to compare it to anything else. How can a mere 20-odd minutes of animation contain so much elemental power that they can break down all the barriers of a cynical adult and render him helpless to resist their power? How can Shinkai's backgrounds be so hyper-realistic - to look and sound and feel more real than if they were "real" video? If there was ever a testament to how magical this medium can be, that must surely be as good as any, right there. Sorry to hijack the conversation for selfish reasons - call it therapeutic, if nothing else. Sometimes these things just need to be written down... |
2008-07-08, 13:22 | Link #888 |
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"they" as in people with limited viewpoints, understanding and comprehension.
No matter how you look at it, it's not really a sad ending. Maybe it's a sad story but the ending is by no means sad. Even if you say they both moved on, that's a good ending since both characters lived, there were no tragedies, and they lead a happy life afterward. While it's not a fairy tale happy ending, it's definitely not a sad one. Think about it, the movie is about this guy who couldn't forget about a girl. We saw how miserable he is and how it affects the people around him but in the end of the movie according to you guys, he moved on. That's not a sad ending. The main character found salvation or a glimpse of light at the end. So it's definitely not a sad ending. I don't even know why I have to explain, it seems so obvious. Although the movie ended at that part. I do not believe the story ends there. PS: All of shinkai's works before 5cm have a happy ending. Do you research first please before spouting nonsense. Last edited by FuzzyWuzzy; 2008-07-08 at 13:53. |
2008-07-08, 22:11 | Link #889 | |
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Just because people don't die, it doesn't mean that they lead a happy life afterwards, or they eventually do. I don't know whether you see the world as distinctly black or white, or you're just phobic to the idea of a sad ending, but the harshness and arrogance with your comments is really driving me nuts. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but most of your posts make it seems like you are, whether intentional or not. It's your choice on whether you want to act on that. |
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2008-07-09, 01:59 | Link #890 | |
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For you to think that there is actually a solid happy ending, is up to you, but please don't troll when others interpret the movie differently. |
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2008-07-09, 03:30 | Link #891 | ||||
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And quite frankly, whose to say they both are leading a happy life? I still have my qualms with Takaki's future. Not to say he won't become happy eventually, but from where his actions lead up to the railroad crossing, I wouldn't be so sure at him having one. At most, I see him moving onward and gaining some sort of understanding of whatever it was that was on his mind and became acceptive of it and parted ways; but him being happy immediately afterward? I'm not so sure I would absolutely say he is. Quote:
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I'm pretty sure, that's what I've been saying all through out the thread. The movie's ending is open.
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2008-07-09, 19:02 | Link #894 | ||
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And I do realize what he was referring to by movies. I didn't watch the other 2 movies I know of by Makoto Shinkai (B5CM was my first) so I didn't bother to make any statement about those movies. Last edited by Z3120; 2008-07-09 at 19:20. |
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2008-07-09, 22:50 | Link #895 |
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You know, if you don't know what we are talking about, you shouldn't butt in. You are making assumptions and putting words in my mouth. When I said "sad ending" I was pointing at the movie ending. When I said, the ending was open, I was talking about the story. The movie may have ended there but the story is still hanging and doesn't have a conclusion yet.
See I was talking to person B. It's an A and B conversation. You are person C. Then you read a reply and butt in but you don't know what we were talking about. Do you always do that? That's a bad habit... you should get rid of it. You are trying to force yourself into a conversation but you don't know what we are talking about. If you want to do that then at least know what is going on then I don't have to waste my time explaining stuff. So as you can see, at the end, I'm still right. If a person is right, there is no arrogance there. Only truth. If people find the truth too bright then they should close their eyes and be blind. It doesn't matter whether the story ends with a happy or sad one. I don't really care. But what I do want or in my wishlist is that the story should end. At least the viewers gets some closure and knows what happens to the main characters whether they die, fell into despair or live happily ever after. Last edited by FuzzyWuzzy; 2008-07-09 at 23:01. |
2008-07-09, 23:19 | Link #896 |
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This is a forum, not a private conversation. Obviously people are going to butt in.
I do agree that the ending had "closure", even though it was pretty sad, and I was sort of like " Aww, man, one of them should have given the other one Spoiler:
Maybe I'm a total moron, but I still don't get why they didn't do it. Of course, no lesson would be learned, and we wouldn't be discussing this movie for 45 pages, if they had, so all in all, well, all in all, the movie turned out to be a pretty good experience. |
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Realize that this is a discussion forum. If you want to educate people in your enlightened ways, then find a way to do it in your own ego-log, those things that give you complete control on who comments and who doesn't. There are lots of free ego-log providers around, find one and rant about how right you are all you want. This is a piece of artwork, and as such, it must be interpreted. Unless you have a direct line to Shinkai, unfortunately enough, your interpretation is as valid as that of any other person. Now, I believe that this is not a sad ending, or perhaps merely bittersweet, so I suppose I agree with you, partly, but I find your attitude so ass-backwards that I'm going to ask you to stop posting here, for the sake of everyone's well-being (including yours). Quote:
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Curiosity! Because I want to know for no particular reason or even purpose. I want to know what happens to both of them. What happens to Akari after she got married. What happens to Takaki if he did move on. See while most people can only come up with 1-2 interpretations of what happens to the main characters at the end, I have read and watched enough stories that I can come up with 100 interpretations. It's not that I want to come up with 100 interpretations, they just pop up. All of them are likely to happen or have a high chance of happening. I want Shinkai to tell me which one of those 100 is the right one. I'm curious to which interpretation I come up with is correct. Quote:
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