Kamen Rider General Discussion

[justavisitor]

I was a bit late and was going to play devil's advocate and told you that, if you don't have the time, just watch the a to z movie instead

Reason is that, you will see all w's form in the movie, the relationship level between characters that you will see in the anime is very very similar to the movie, and the Movie has one important element that the TV series is missing

Spoiler for spoiler XD:

Ryu and the main heroine become a couple in the movie XD

[Tactics]

That spoiler would belong to W Returns: Accel, not A to Z Gaia Memories.

But, yeah, when you think about it, A to Z got enough to summarize how-things-work for Fuuto Tantei anime with bonus Eiji cameo.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by Tactics

That spoiler would belong to W Returns: Accel, not A to Z Gaia Memories.

But, yeah, when you think about it, A to Z got enough to summarize how-things-work for Fuuto Tantei anime with bonus Eiji cameo.

Spoiler for spoiler:

Sorry, i meant they started dating

Spoiler for please stop because of even more major spoilers contained inside!!:

Accel's yellow form is from the accel return..it's in the manga but I doubt the anime will go that far, so just the movie is enough...another reason why I recommend the movie is that, Phillp's family is not that important in the manga, as no one cares why Futo still has that many gaia memory...gaia memory in the manga has become a convenient plot for monsters to appear

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by Tactics

That spoiler would belong to W Returns: Accel, not A to Z Gaia Memories.

But, yeah, when you think about it, A to Z got enough to summarize how-things-work for Fuuto Tantei anime with bonus Eiji cameo.

Spoiler for Accel Movie:

Accel movie is about them being married, not getting married.

[Marcus H.]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

I was a bit late and was going to play devil's advocate and told you that, if you don't have the time, just watch the a to z movie instead

Reason is that, you will see all w's form in the movie, the relationship level between characters that you will see in the anime is very very similar to the movie, and the Movie has one important element that the TV series is missing

Spoiler for spoiler XD:

Ryu and the main heroine become a couple in the movie XD

Lol, since Fuuto PI will air on August (a complete rarity for a seasonal), I think I can finish the 49 episodes on time, even if I do only two episodes in a day.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

Spoiler for spoiler:

Sorry, i meant they started dating

Spoiler for please stop because of even more major spoilers contained inside!!:

Accel's yellow form is from the accel return..it's in the manga but I doubt the anime will go that far, so just the movie is enough...another reason why I recommend the movie is that, Phillp's family is not that important in the manga, as no one cares why Futo still has that many gaia memory...gaia memory in the manga has become a convenient plot for monsters to appear

Spoiler for To be fair:

Museum gone not necessarily means people studied / involved in its creation gone too, especially with T2 done by last quarter of series and several comparison to addictive drugs, even some cases in Futo Tantei told it used by Dopant as workaround of owning firearms; it likely have more buyers than during main series, why villain need to stop best seller of black market.

[justavisitor]

@Tactics

Spoiler for spoiler:

I completely agree. I thought the use of gaia memory would fade after the defeat of Museum, but boys, staff found a clever way to keep the series going. The analogy between Gaia memory and drug is very very clever. It gives W a chance to have any sequel, and 10 years later, here we are XD

@Marcus H.
I hope your enjoy the series so far. W is about the last main rider that I remember all the finisher move of each form. Nowadays, the main rider will have 1001 sub forms and honestly it doesn't give any lasting impression at all, compared to W

[iko_uwais]

Revice movie trailer, title is Battle Familia

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https://youtu.be/FA-5pcgYyN4

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[kiak666]

Originally Posted by iko_uwais

Revice movie trailer, title is Battle Familia

YouTube

https://youtu.be/FA-5pcgYyN4

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Based on the title, poster as well as trailer, it looks likely that Yukimi will also transform into a Rider in this movie...

[B214]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Spoiler for To be fair:

Museum gone not necessarily means people studied / involved in its creation gone too, especially with T2 done by last quarter of series and several comparison to addictive drugs, even some cases in Futo Tantei told it used by Dopant as workaround of owning firearms; it likely have more buyers than during main series, why villain need to stop best seller of black market.

Spoiler:

Well there's still Foundation X. Didn't they create Core Medals & Astro Switches too?

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by B214

Spoiler:

Well there's still Foundation X. Didn't they create Core Medals & Astro Switches too?

Yes. Timeline-wise, they're still active during Futo Tantei; effectively destroyed by Ex-Aid, so operating for 6+ years.
They can create imitation for almost all, except Wizard's until Ghost's due to each series circumstances, so they could create even Gashat and Fullbottles.

Luckily, both and Switches are not mass produced like GM as not only Gamou lose trust to them, but also they're in verge of bankruptcy by Ex-Aid.
Futo Tantei even poked on this IIRC telling they're not as influential as during W main series thanks to Kamen Rider actively ruining their activities; true to Fourze last quarter, Gamou not taking their words seriously anymore compare to early part of Fourze.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Yes. Timeline-wise, they're still active during Futo Tantei; effectively destroyed by Ex-Aid, so operating for 6+ years.
They can create imitation for almost all, except Wizard's until Ghost's due to each series circumstances, so they could create even Gashat and Fullbottles.

Luckily, both and Switches are not mass produced like GM as not only Gamou lose trust to them, but also they're in verge of bankruptcy by Ex-Aid.
Futo Tantei even poked on this IIRC telling they're not as influential as during W main series thanks to Kamen Rider actively ruining their activities; true to Fourze last quarter, Gamou not taking their words seriously anymore compare to early part of Fourze.

Pretty sure Gamou stopped listening to them cause he already reach his goal and thought he no longer needed them. And yeah the last we heard from Foundation X was in the Build & Ex-Aid movie. Toei hasn't actually confirmed that they're fully down have they? Not that it matters anymore.
I am curious on whether or not they can duplicate items beyond Build though if still active.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by B214

Pretty sure Gamou stopped listening to them cause he already reach his goal and thought he no longer needed them. And yeah the last we heard from Foundation X was in the Build & Ex-Aid movie. Toei hasn't actually confirmed that they're fully down have they? Not that it matters anymore.
I am curious on whether or not they can duplicate items beyond Build though if still active.

Chronologically, he stopped listening to them after the one in OOO x Fourze movie died.
I'm guessing that member is person responsible to Gamou research observation as he became monster through excessive cosmic energy similar to how Utopia is Utopia by merit of being responsible to GM research; the observer gone thanks to his own greed, no reason to bow to them anymore as you can use the power only for yourself.



Items duplication will be depends on the narrative. Wizard Ring need the gems and its freaking rare Fueki need to create Carbuncle Phantom, doesn't help that Fueki immediately went into hiding as soon as his research proven to be successful as implied by Rinko; Lockseed need access to Helheim that unique to Zawame. Gashat and Fullbottles easily more casual, no risk of having Takatora for opponent too.

So if they're still active I assume they can create Zero One's (Gai is living proof of this, if not ZAIA corporation itself) and Revice's (as long demons can be produced, I guess).
Zi-O Ridewatch would need someone from Swartz clan (only Tsukuyomi left) or Sougo himself, while to create Saber WRB one need access to at least one of Seiken and an already existing WRB.

[iko_uwais]

So, looking at the trailer for next episode

Spoiler for ep 42:

it seems both Genta and Veil each will get their own new rider form. And yes, the new blue rider from the movie's poster seems to be Genta

[Tactics]

Zero One at this point: Fuwa pushed himself to stop Aruto stupidity.
Saber at this point: Xross Saber flexing it OP-ness to Shinken Gold, I mean Master Logos.

Revice at this point: Giff is Strong, Freedom & Happiness, Family Matters (as usual).
I'm guessing it will going like this until everyone became Riders, unlike Zero One and Saber somehow Revice really wanted to increase their amount of Riders at every opportunity. But, hey, we got competent mass-produced Rider so it come with a good thing.

[Kanon]

They're really pushing the "Daiji went crazy because he lost Kagerou" theory, so that's probably going to be it. It makes me wonder what is going to happen to Genta if he gets rid of Vail next ep.

[kiak666]

Some magazine scans have revealed that Genta's new Rider form will be called Destream, and it has the same gimmick as Demons and Over-Demons. The recolored Jack Revice that Vail will transform into is called Crimson Vail and apparently it's not classified as a Rider.

Meanwhile, Aguilera will be using the OOO themed Buffalo Vistamp.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by kiak666

Meanwhile, Aguilera will be using the OOO themed Buffalo Vistamp.

I wonder if this is what prompts the black and white variant of her outfit that was seen in the magazines when her Rider form first debuted.

[kiak666]

Originally Posted by GDB

I wonder if this is what prompts the black and white variant of her outfit that was seen in the magazines when her Rider form first debuted.

Based on the scan, it's just a weapon change like Jeanne. The weapon is a Kiwi Gekirin from Gaim recolored to look like OOO's chest emblem.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

From a hero-actor to a fugitive...

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