(L) To Love-ru -Trouble- Darkness [manga]

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@Kadmos: Actually, if you notice, Lala wants Rito to accept a harem scenario. She even said she'd be fine with it. The only ones who want him all to themselves as OTP are Haruna, Rin, Run, Kyouko, and that other friend of Run's. Let's add Yui to that, too.

@Imperial: No, I do get what he's saying. I just want to point out that even though what Momo's doing is selfish to Rito, him being indecisive is hurting the girls more than it helps them. And that he needs to man up.

And despite being selfish like that, it's not like Momo doesn't love Rito. Deep down, she wants him all to herself because she loves him. But she also doesn't want to take him away from Lala because she loves her too much. So just thinks that the best thing for making everyone happy would be a harem. She's indeed forcing it onto Rito and it's unfair and selfish, but Rito himself also needs to realize that it's really what's best for everyone. Notice that Rito has also been wavering. He's already started to consider accepting the Harem Plan. Nemesis is just trying to give him the final push to accepting it completely.

Expecting a normal guy in this situation to not have no idea what the hell he's doing is pretty normal. my point is this fixation in harems on a true harem ending is clouding our judgement. Plus tbh even if he does get a harem Momo is still not that high on the totem pole. Lala haruna Kotegawa and Run would all be higher up and then Yami and after that depending on how much you want to look into it Risa and magical Kyoko would all likely be higher on the totem pole then Momo

[DragonOsman]

Guess you're right about a normal guy in this kind of situation having no idea what to do. But still, he at least needs to confess to Haruna already. Even if he doesn't choose a harem, he at least needs to be decisive enough to pick an OTP setting with the girl he's loved since forever. But he's too shy to even do that (though, granted, it's also Haruna's fault - he already was going to confess once, but had to stop because Haruna bailed out too soon).

But again, in Rito's defense, he's at least already considering the Harem Plan seriously and in a positive light lately for once. He even had that dream. He just needs something to convince him to finally go ahead and forwardly accept it. That and he needs to confess to Haruna soon and somehow get her to agree with the Harem Plan as well (though how he'll do that is beyond me).

Heck, all of the human girls, as well as some the alien ones ((maybe) Yami, definitely Run and her friends) need to be convinced because right now they all seem to be against it. Knowing Yui, she'd be all like, "A harem?! Too shameless!". And we all know what Nana says about it (though I'm not sure if we should take her word for it - she's a typical tsundere, after all).

[ChuckE]

I think Momo understands that in an common scenario Rito will end up with Haruna or Lala.
But she loves Rito too and her harem plan is basically a way to make Rito love her too.

Basically it is smoke and mirrors for her to stand on the same ground as Haruna & Lala

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Expecting a normal guy in this situation to not have no idea what the hell he's doing is pretty normal. my point is this fixation in harems on a true harem ending is clouding our judgement. Plus tbh even if he does get a harem Momo is still not that high on the totem pole. Lala haruna Kotegawa and Run would all be higher up and then Yami and after that depending on how much you want to look into it Risa and magical Kyoko would all likely be higher on the totem pole then Momo

Agreed. Momo's plan was so short-sighted. Just imagine if her harem plan failed to get her a piece of Rito because Rito has so many women that he need attended every single night. If she was unlucky, she may ended up queuing in the long list and if that really happened, what will she do next? Kill other girls?

Momo should just aim for a small harem goal;Rito marrying three sisters, and prevent other girls from coming near Rito, which should be easy task. Adding more candidates just doesn't make any sense unless Momo's true goal is simply watching Rito sexing those girls from the sideline every night.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, but he'll probably give the Deviluke sisters and Haruna top priority either way. If it's up to him (it hopefully will be). Then she'll just have to cope with being the last of those four (three until Nana grows up more). I don't see how Yui has to be above Momo in the harem hierarchy. It makes more sense for just Lala, Haruna and Yami to be above her, at least to me.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Guess you're right about a normal guy in this kind of situation having no idea what to do. But still, he at least needs to confess to Haruna already. Even if he doesn't choose a harem, he at least needs to be decisive enough to pick an OTP setting with the girl he's loved since forever. But he's too shy to even do that (though, granted, it's also Haruna's fault - he already was going to confess once, but had to stop because Haruna bailed out too soon).

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

But again, in Rito's defense, he's at least already considering the Harem Plan seriously and in a positive light lately for once. He even had that dream. He just needs something to convince him to finally go ahead and forwardly accept it. That and he needs to confess to Haruna soon and somehow get her to agree with the Harem Plan as well (though how he'll do that is beyond me).

The lack of a haruna confession is to this story what the promise girl was to Nisekoi. Without knowing that the story cannot end and will not end. My guess is the next storyline is the buildup call it To Love Ru - Harem Plan?


The haruna confession was something that they couldn't do for the longest time because the harem plan would have never worked unless she accepted it. That still holds true and until they do that Haruna is not getting the confession.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Heck, all of the human girls, as well as some the alien ones ((maybe) Yami, definitely Run and her friends) need to be convinced because right now they all seem to be against it. Knowing Yui, she'd be all like, "A harem?! Too shameless!". And we all know what Nana says about it (though I'm not sure if we should take her word for it - she's a typical tsundere, after all).

Yami can be easily convinced. Run can be easily convinced. Risa would be easy as well. Yami is easy. Saki's bodyguard could be convinced if Rito orders Zastin to marry Saki. Mikado and Tearju are a fun choice. The biggest wildcard is Haruna and has always been

Originally Posted by Sixth

Agreed. Momo's plan was so short-sighted. Just imagine if her harem plan failed to get her a piece of Rito because Rito has so many women that he need attended every single night. If she was unlucky, she may ended up queuing in the long list and if that really happened, what will she do next? Kill other girls?

Momo should just aim for a small harem goal;Rito marrying three sisters, and prevent other girls from coming near Rito, which should be easy task. Adding more candidates just doesn't make any sense unless Momo's true goal is simply watching Rito sexing those girls from the sideline every night.

That's an impossible task to keep it to only the Deviluke sisters. At bare minimum you get Haruna Lala and Yami and Kotegawa and Run are next.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, but he'll probably give the Deviluke sisters and Haruna top priority either way. If it's up to him (it hopefully will be). Then she'll just have to cope with being the last of those four (three until Nana grows up more). I don't see how Yui has to be above Momo in the harem hierarchy. It makes more sense for just Lala, Haruna and Yami to be above her, at least to me.

He gives Lala and haruna priority i'd wager Kotegawa and Run would be next.

[Schpittfeuer]

I am approaching the end and I am kinda sad...

[Schpittfeuer]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

The lack of a haruna confession is to this story what the promise girl was to Nisekoi. Without knowing that the story cannot end and will not end. My guess is the next storyline is the buildup call it To Love Ru - Harem Plan?




Yami can be easily convinced. Run can be easily convinced. Risa would be easy as well. Yami is easy. Saki's bodyguard could be convinced if Rito orders Zastin to marry Saki. Mikado and Tearju are a fun choice. The biggest wildcard is Haruna and has always been

Haruna, when drunk, was seriously considering the Harem plan. Do you think it's possible that deep inside she really would be able to accept it?

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Schpittfeuer

Haruna, when drunk, was seriously considering the Harem plan. Do you think it's possible that deep inside she really would be able to accept it?

Those words are important because she's drunk. Sober haruna is hesistant and until you get her to agree the harem plan is paralyzed

[DragonOsman]

Actually, didn't she say she'd rather have the man she loves all to herself when she was drunk? Like Imperial said, she's the one that's going to be hardest to convince.

Because Momo's the one pushing the Harem Plan, she needs to do something to secure her place in the Rito bowl. She'd be an idiot not to.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Actually, didn't she say she'd rather have the man she loves all to herself when she was drunk? Like Imperial said, she's the one that's going to be hardest to convince.

Because Momo's the one pushing the Harem Plan, she needs to do something to secure her place in the Rito bowl. She'd be an idiot not to.

You think she will be the one who decided that? Hardly especially when she already gave up on winning Rito's heart and willingly to settle down to be a part of the harem. Awakened Beast King Rito will be the one who decide which girl that he will do every night.

If you read enough manga, you should know the one who created/awaken a god usually get the shortest sticks; for example, get killed as a sacrifice to empower the new born god on the spot

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, but she should still at least try. Like I said, she'd be an idiot not to. Leave it to Rito, and she really might end up with the shortest end of the stick. She really messed up.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, but she should still at least try. Like I said, she'd be an idiot not to. Leave it to Rito, and she really might end up with the shortest end of the stick. She really messed up.

She already has the short end of the stick because despite all her work Rito has done nothing. the VMC are a disaster and let's face it her position is being quickly overtaken by Nemesis who actually has the cache to convinced Rito. But as has been the case since the EARLY days of To Love Ru. Without Haruna it is all useless and anybody who suggests otherwise isnt paying attention.

[Schpittfeuer]

Everybody hold on, I just read a chapter in which Yami confesses to Rito



Hoooly Smoke

[RedWingFM]

Originally Posted by Schpittfeuer

Everybody hold on, I just read a chapter in which Yami confesses to Rito



Hoooly Smoke

What's your opinion about it?

[Schpittfeuer]

Originally Posted by RedWingFM

What's your opinion about it?

I am happy that it happened without direct momo interference.


Also:



You see? This is why It is hard for me to not dislike Momo.

"Stay away Nemesis, he's not yours"

*While I'll go and stalk and manipulate him so that I can get some too..

Seriously, girl, you don't have any right to say that, you are using him as your toy...

[DragonOsman]

You're focusing on only the bad stuff. Yeah, she's selfish and is also the pot calling the kettle black. But it's also not as if she doesn't have her good points.

[Schpittfeuer]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

You're focusing on only the bad stuff. Yeah, she's selfish and is also the pot calling the kettle black. But it's also not as if she doesn't have her good points.

Well, she wants to be "included" in the harem, not to be the 1st one instead of her sister. And probably she does appreciate Rito's feelings to her. Still I cannot tell if she really loves him. For example- it is pretty obvious that Nana does. It's obvious that Kotegawa does.. Momo? Uh..

Maybe I am missing something.

[DragonOsman]

She does love him. Notice that deep down, she wants him all to herself. Not because of lust, but because she loves him. But she can't say it to him because she doesn't want to take him away from Lala.

[Kanon]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...-count/.109562

Yui is way too low! And Lala is surprisingly high.