Kanon - 2006 - Episode 13 Discussion / Poll

[Owaranai Destiny]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Actually he's got less pleasant reasons than just "keeping order" but those will be revealed (unless KyoAni tweaks the story).

I might have heard about that somewhere... With a few hints dropped fomr the summary of episode 13 and the small conversation between Kuze and Yuuichi & Mai, I'm tempted to believe it might have something to do with Sayuri. Meh, just a guess.

[Minoto]

New AIR product placement this week:

[panzerfan]

U1 is unbelieably busy. He really has alot of people and things to keep up with. It's quite interesting to see Ayu being tied in to the turn of event in Mai's arc. The way how things are starting to turn out is... really intense. I can't believe how much emotion Yuiichi is starting to show here.
It is funny how Nayuki finally woke up and provides relief to the tension within the episode. I love the ant eater as well.

Sometimes, I think of Kyoani as the firm that could in handling of action. It is true that they've done FMP, but I think that their action shots in Suzumiya Haruhi and here in Kanon are so pronounced that they become imprinted as key scenes in the series.

The countermelodies are quickly being established for Shiori and Ayu while Mai's movement is becoming heavily accented. I can't wait to see how things will turn out in the concerto ahead.

[Thelastguardian]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Actually he's got less pleasant reasons than just "keeping order" but those will be revealed (unless KyoAni tweaks the story).

To him Mai's disobedience is more like the means than the result.

I have always wonder- can someone actually puncture a metal fire extingisher with a wood sword? Hmmm


Personally, I like the game's way of telling how Mai and Sayuri got to know each other (dog => flashback) instead of TV's way(flashback => ? ).

Spoiler for 13:

I really like how Mai compared herself to Ayu. They share the most similarity background wise, after all.

Mai, in no way are you "worse" than Ayu ^_^;;

PS. Didn't Sayuri flew like 4 meters and hit a wall after she got slammed by a "demon" in the last episode? I would expect a person to at least break a few ribs. Or at the very least have bruises on his back so huge that the person can't walk around without screaming. But no, not our Sayuri- she was better than before- heck she even made lunch with her injured hand!

I say Sayuri is the most powerful (and hidden) character in the anime

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian

~ PS. Didn't Sayuri flew like 4 meters and hit a wall after she got slammed by a "demon" in the last episode? I would expect a person to at least break a few ribs. Or at the very least have bruises on his back so huge that the person can't walk around without screaming. But no, not our Sayuri- she was better than before- heck she even made lunch with her injured hand!

I say Sayuri is the most powerful (and hidden) character in the anime

Sayuri has a secret. A secret that will probably remain one unless you play the game's expansion or KyoAni makes an OVA.

Fufufufu!

[andiyar]

Originally Posted by Vexx

...Its a lot of fun playing Lawful Evil characters in D&D, ya know

Totally off topic - but oh yes, yes it is. Even more fun than Chaotic Neutral, I find. ^^


-Andiyar

[Klashikari]

This episode was really good, the main thing that impressed me was yuuichi character development. it is quite realistic (he is not only a carebear with some jokes in his sleeve, he can also be fustrated because he cares about mai too much, he is not the basic sweet hero, nor a jerk without taking one's feelings into consideration)
i liked how he is doing his best to help mai, although not being considered at all (or mai doesn't probably show it very well). the training part was hilarous XD (it reminds me, in SNS, how yuuji was beaten and looked down by shana while they were training )

Ayu's voice were... slighty strident with her first "yuuichi-kun", but it makes it even more cuter ^^

as usual, this episodes set more questions than answers ~~ (ayu status is definitavely dubious, according mai's behaviour)

Nayuki was really welcome for her relieving humour in this episode XD (her sleepy mode is simply priceless, despite being slightly redundant)


excellent episode, except i felt the pace wasn't really "flowing" very well (i felt the several scenes were like...cut from each other). so a 9 instead of a 10 but meh XD

[MetaFire]

Just finished watching the sub. I wonder if the whole dance festival student council thing is done with, the way they got mai out of it seemed pretty simple. Also Shiori's someone else has the same last name as my sister and in the same grade but isn't my sister thing was really weird in how Yuuichi kinda just accepted that. Gonna have to check the other subs on that one. I totally loved the roof scene just because of 'inu-san, wan'- so random.

Sayuri had a ton of lines this episode and she was supercute.

I thought the shop part was pretty funny. Images popped into my head during this part:

Spoiler:

The way she said it, I thought she'd go into.

Spoiler:

or something.

[Ascaloth]

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian

PS. Didn't Sayuri flew like 4 meters and hit a wall after she got slammed by a "demon" in the last episode? I would expect a person to at least break a few ribs. Or at the very least have bruises on his back so huge that the person can't walk around without screaming. But no, not our Sayuri- she was better than before- heck she even made lunch with her injured hand!

I say Sayuri is the most powerful (and hidden) character in the anime

Well, she is not known amongst the Animesuki fans as "Mahou Shoujo Sayurin" for nothing.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by MetaFire

Gonna have to check the other subs on that one. I totally loved the roof scene just because of 'inu-san, wan'- so random.

it wasnt random...the reason being ~

Spoiler:

yuuichi wished for a decent training if a dog or boar turned up...but instead mai attacked him with flying objects an pretended to be the animal that he wished for i guess the fire extingisher does kinda simulate how a boar would attack

first time seeing yuuichi being pissed off? ~ good job mai

well another very good ep imo ^_^ ~ a little focus on all the girls...man yuuichi has a tough job ~

besides the fact that ayu is still looking for her important thing and mai seems to know something but likes to speak in riddles i guess shiori gets a boast as well ~

Spoiler for shiori:

well so apparently shes the sister of kaori...obviously she is telling a lie when she said that the person yuuichi is talking about is a different person because her first reaction the the name misaka kaori is "wow you know my sister?"...and she is spying on her through the window...kinda creepy not knowing what she is thinking...

hmm so now we know that the demons...

Spoiler:

are targeting yuuichi

why is it? i think i should write up my speculation in the other thread

neways...2 down 3 to go O.o and the fight scene was golden!

also we hear sayuri's new word..."pikyuu" <------ cute ^_^

[Mentar]

I hope it's a forgivable one-time offense... since we're setting up a new tracker, the location for SS-Eclipse Kanon has changed. And with TT down, people are pretty confused. Until next week, things should have settled in.

Here's the MKV version

Here's the AVI verision

Gomen!

[Klashikari]

errr, the links are broken XD

EDIT : both threads links work, pretty fast and nice work mentar

[LCeh]

I really like the way KyotoAni has been handling the different arcs. It's getting more and more apparent that the way they are doing it is probably the best way of doing a story with multiple unrelated arcs, and that is to intertwine them by introducing everyone at the beginning and then have them involved even in different arcs. I am not sure if that's what Toei version did, but I would think KyotoAni's presentation would seem a lot more coherent by doing this.

I was kinda surprised that after Yuuichi's blow up, Mai didn't seem to change at all. I wonder when Mai's change of heart will happen.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by LCeh

~ I was kinda surprised that after Yuuichi's blow up, Mai didn't seem to change at all. I wonder when Mai's change of heart will happen.

Soon enough. If the Ep14 preview is anything to go by.

It's a tad late now, so I will postpone my thoughts on Ep13 till tomorrow. I will note however, that Ep13 will probably be the most criticised episode by me thus far. Still debating on whether I should award a 7 or 8 to it. Will probably rewatch it again and see how it goes.

Cheers.

[guuchan]

Originally Posted by Skane

Soon enough. If the Ep14 preview is anything to go by.

It's a tad late now, so I will postpone my thoughts on Ep13 till tomorrow. I will note however, that Ep13 will probably be the most criticised episode by me thus far. Still debating on whether I should award a 7 or 8 to it. Will probably rewatch it again and see how it goes.

Cheers.

I think I might know why. To my surprise, after following the game so loyally for 12 episodes, a lot of "original" material suddenly appear in this one. I will raise two examples:

1)The meeting of Ayu and Mai. There's no such thing in the game of U1 bringing Ayu to the school at night, let alone U1 asking for Mai's help on Ayu's "lost item". If I remember correctly, U1 never even mentioned about Ayu to Mai. Yes, I understand KyoAni is trying to make the characters cross each others' paths, but this is making Mai a bit too... psychic. I believe Mai & Ayu never met before when they were small, so it's pretty amazing Mai figures out that much about Ayu in the anime by just seeing her.

2)Kitagawa saved the day here. However, in the game, it totally thanks to Sayuri that Mai avoided her crisis of being expelled from school. Sayuri kind of "sacrificed" herself for that. Kitagawa, on the other hand, is pretty much useless throughout the whole game.

I'm not sure the later one is a good change, since it really doesn't do Sayuri justice. It makes everything seem too easy too. Anyway, the preview of episode 14 looks promising, can't wait till it's aired.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by guuchan

2)Kitagawa saved the day here. However, in the game, it totally thanks to Sayuri that Mai avoided her crisis of being expelled from school. Sayuri kind of "sacrificed" herself for that. Kitagawa, on the other hand, is pretty much useless throughout the whole game.

what do you mean by sacrifice? sounds kinda bad ~ but good thing that these criticisms dont affect me much being a first time viewer but the downside to it is that i cant talk about stuff from past experiences

[aliensporebomb]

Re: EP13:

My opinion: win. I can see how some Kanon purists might feel there
is getting to be too much deviation from the original but I'm liking this-
I'm seeing a little more depth in characters that were verging on one-
dimensional before.

Spoiler:

That cliffhanger: "What are you?" or was it "Who are you?"


At least, I hope I got that right.

I wonder if we find out she has a past with him too. That guy gets around.

Good interactions between Y1 and Mai, Ayu, Shiori. A surprising
emotional outburst from Y1 to Mai. Shiori's situation looking ever
more poignant - ah, it's going to kill me to watch it. And some of
the comments made by Mai in the preview had me raising my
eyebrows with surprise.

I'm digging this, big time.

[Vexx]

<sigh> for some reason, my ep 13 download is moving like cold molasses .... it'll be a while before I can join in the banter...

[Cyz]

Nice episode though it's not as good as the last one. Anyway, Sayuri looked really cute when she's carrying the giant anteater stuff animal on her back. What else....oh yeah, Kuze runs away in fear because of Mai's penetrating stare (way to go Mai!). Next episode...I think that would be almost close to ending Mai's arc no? And it looks like they'll show...

Spoiler:

Mai and Yuuichi's past when they were still little. Maybe not on the next episode but on the following one.

Random thought: I wonder how late does Nayuki sleeps at night? Or maybe she was just like that after all like Kaori said .

[IRJustman]

Originally Posted by aliensporebomb

Re: EP13:

[...]

Spoiler:

That cliffhanger: "What are you?" or was it "Who are you?"


At least, I hope I got that right.

Spoiler:

She's saying in the soundtrack, "Anata wa.... dare?" which points to "who" for me, so you got the "who" part correct.

I'm digging this, big time.

You're definitely in good company. ;)

--Ian.