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2012-08-13, 21:25 | Link #1262 | |
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And as for the focusing on Heartseed vs. focusing on the characters bit: As much as I would love to see more interaction between the characters, I feel the whole dynamic of having Heartseed playing the mediator is also really important. It's too early to say whether there should be more or less emphasis on the characters, but so far I'm not at all bothered by his screentime. I mean, what, he only shows up every other episode? Just my thoughts, looking forward to the next episode! The most recent episode (#6) seemed to me like it was setting up the stage for the next one, so it should be interesting!
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2012-08-13, 21:50 | Link #1263 |
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She's not so much selfless but more that she doesn't want anything to change. This is a person who basically has a very cynical view of people. What's known to her at the moment is this 'Iori like Taichi' and 'Taichi likes Iori'. Why bother getting involved in that as a third party? Their feelings are already known to her and very clear to her. If she gets involved, she might mess up their whole group dynamic and cause everyone to fall out. She doesn't want that. Better she keep quiet than risk everything for something she thinks isn't going to work out.
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2012-08-14, 03:13 | Link #1264 | |
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The only reason this show isn't focused on the group as a whole is because there seems to be a law in anime that the only characters that are allowed to have any sort of depth or dilemmas must be female. This is ok in fanservice shows (the focus in these shows isn't exactly on something guys anatomically posses), but this spread to anime which are in theory supposed to treat every character equally, such as this one. They didn't have to use the harem format of one guy helping traumatized girls, but they did. In a normal world Kokoro connect would focus on all its characters, but the anime world is so used to selling cute girls that they developed this obligation to focus only on them even at the cost of ruining a story's potential. The philosophy is that the anime is developing a waifu for you to chose and if the waifu isn't waifu, there's no reason for you to be interested in a character. It's a weird case of same-sex cooties. I was beginning to wonder if I'm the only one who's bothered by this so I'm happy to see other folks are, too. |
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2012-08-14, 03:26 | Link #1265 |
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I'm going to say this again: Give it time with Kokoro Connect. I don't know much about other series (since I usually avoid fanservice shows in the first place), but Kokoro Connect is a gradual process. The fact that people are jumping to conclusions when the second arc just started is what I'm more worried about: It seems people's ability to patiently wait has eroded quite a bit.
Basically, just enjoy the ride for now. First arc was mainly about the instability of Iori's identity. This arc will probably be about Inaba-chan's internal problems and also add in aspects on Taichi's own problems and the relationship between Yui and Aoki. |
2012-08-14, 03:31 | Link #1266 | |
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In all honesty we're talking about a group of teenagers too. I really don't have much faith in keeping their emotions in check, especially the girls.
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2012-08-14, 05:35 | Link #1267 | |
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I also don’t understand why many people have to pass final judgement to this series’ plot & characters right here & right now. It’s not even over yet. It’s like judging the first half of a feature film. Things can still change from there. Don’t believe me? Watch the first half of Wolverine. It was good. Add the second half, then it became complete trash. The same thing also happen to Nadia: Secret of Blue Water & Gundam SEED Destiny. The first half is good, then the second half made those series went downhill. The opposite can also happen to KC. So, I’ll keep my final judgement for when this series is completely over.
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2012-08-14, 07:25 | Link #1268 |
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You're thinking too rationally. This is a girl who's issue in the last arc was basically 'she didn't trust anyone'. She still doesn't fully trust anyone yet so she doesn't believe that things won't get ugly if she lets her true feelings be known now
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2012-08-14, 08:05 | Link #1269 |
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I feel like many people been focusing too much on Inaba’s not-trusting issue while ignoring the other half of her problem which is her self-loathing (she thinks of herself as a horrible and unworthy person) resulting a very negative self-esteem and thus the fear of hurting her friends, both of which combines and makes her completely unable to open herself to them. Just want to throw this out there.
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2012-08-14, 08:12 | Link #1270 | |
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2012-08-14, 08:59 | Link #1272 |
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I would've had dropped this show by 2nd episode if not for Inaban really. Even now, I'm still rather dissatisfied with the surrounding cast and environment she is in. Well, I'm not a fan of hero complex to begin with, but I may had liked Inaba-Taichi shipping better if they've gotten together from the start.
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2012-08-14, 09:16 | Link #1273 | |
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2012-08-14, 09:26 | Link #1274 |
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^He's making such a claim because he has additional knowledge that goes beyond what we've been shown so far, if you know what I mean. I don't think it's meant to be a general approach that applies in circumstances where this criterion is not met.
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2012-08-14, 12:04 | Link #1276 |
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I think a case can also be made that even if the male characters were to get actual personalities now, it would already be too late for the show to get a free pass given that it's more than half finished (not counting the 4 BD extra eps). If that happened now it would be better than it not happening, but it still wouldn't totally excuse what we've seen so far.
We discuss series based on what we've seen so far - that's how this works. Unless you want to lock a thread until a show has finished airing, there's no way around it.
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2012-08-14, 12:55 | Link #1277 |
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I believe people have missed the point that it has been clearly defined Kokoro Connect contains four different arcs of quite different stories, each arc affecting the characters in a very different way. Furthermore, we have pretty much seen the first arc hit Iori hard, and the immediate second arc crushing Inaba-chan from the inside. Given the clearly defined boundaries and outline of the series, it is quite incomparable to the more hazy differentiations of other series.
Stemming from what has been clearly laid out to us from the beginning, it is hasty of a person to follow the logic of "how anime in general handles stories like this", especially when the current trajectory clearly shows we are dealing with the problems of each characters, including the male characters. What we have on our plate currently already overturns most of what "general anime" does, so additional knowledge (which I don't have, contrary to someone's claim) is not needed. In essence, I am critizing the relative short-sightedness of people who are ignoring the clear prospectives of the story and thus going down the more popular line of thought. Basically, my posts is a critique of people's tendency to miss the big picture and jump to conclusions and criticism of series when there are noticable hints things will not be similar to other more general series. Finally..... I wonder when people will stop saying "He". |
2012-08-14, 12:59 | Link #1278 |
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Well, this story's trajectory and general premise is certainly not usual, not even bad. Just not really my cup of tea. At least past the point it became clear my favorite character is heading towards the direction I don't prefer her to.
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2012-08-14, 13:07 | Link #1279 | |
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As for my thoughts one the latest episode, while this has gotten interesting, I thought it would be only the body swapping. Like the body swapping, the acting on unconcious desires is certainly interesting. Sigmund Freud would have field day! Uhh... who are you referring to? |
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