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kron · 2005-12-25, 03:02

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Originally Posted by mycen

Ep12 Screencaps and Summary

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2005/12/24/blood-12/

Overall an action packed episode... and the series lives up to its name!!-- lots of blood and gore in this episode.
However, the action gets hotter next week!! I believe this series is finally living up to its potential after all...

Merry Christmas to all!!

i really liked the pacing of ep 12 too. great ep

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dreamless · 2005-12-25, 09:27

ep12 is great! I wonder if

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kari-no-sugata · 2005-12-30, 16:37

Spoiler for some comments on ep 12:

Sucks we have to wait another week for the next ep...

Akuma-sama · 2005-12-30, 23:22

Oh... My... God.

Spoiler:

Shades · 2005-12-31, 01:24

So it seems the movie is loosely related...do you think people should watch the movie before they see the series, or wait until the series is over before watching? Or it doesn't matter?

I'm watching the series but I haven't seen the movie. Wondering if I should watch it.

ShellyKukai · 2005-12-31, 08:30

I loved episode 12 because it finaly gave us an idea of what the series is about.

Spoiler:

I think of possible you should watch the movie before the series. Things would make more sense.

tabun · 2005-12-31, 09:04

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Originally Posted by ShellyKukai

Anyway, this was really the best episode yet. I actualy got a little scared.

Spoiler for indeed...:

While it was a very tense episode (and a good one, too), I must admit I got a bit angry at Saya's behaviour - until I saw the preview for the next episode.

Spoiler:

dreamless · 2005-12-31, 09:16

For Diva

Spoiler for speculation based on the manga and movie setting:

ShellyKukai · 2005-12-31, 09:44

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Originally Posted by dreamless

For Diva

Spoiler for speculation based on the manga and movie setting:

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Kamion · 2005-12-31, 09:54

I'm really looking forward to Episode 13... the preview looked really promising.

And I was pretty annoyed with Saya in Episode 12, too... I like Saya, but I'm really looking forward to see a real fight ^_^

mycen · 2005-12-31, 12:24

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Originally Posted by ShellyKukai

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mycen · 2005-12-31, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Shades

So it seems the movie is loosely related...do you think people should watch the movie before they see the series, or wait until the series is over before watching? Or it doesn't matter?

I'm watching the series but I haven't seen the movie. Wondering if I should watch it.

If you wanna know what Saya was like before she thie series than watch the movie... or you can skip it till later.. I have a feeling that this series would reveal more things about her past soon..

Aristophanes · 2005-12-31, 21:24

Am so sick of saya refusing to fight...it was understandable the first 6 times but now it's just stupid...

Ledgem · 2005-12-31, 22:15

Though I saw it a few years ago, I don't recall the movie explaining anything whatsoever. My impression of it at the time was that the animation was beautifully done and the concepts seemed cool, but I had little to no idea what was going on, why things were happening, and so forth.

Someone mentioned that the events of the movie occured 30 years prior to the TV series; I'd like to know where they heard that. I've asked about the relation between the TV series and the movie, and I've heard responses ranging from that it's a select part of the TV series to that it's something of a "parallel universe" (that is, same characters and general idea, but no relation to each other). In my mind, the two are essentially unrelated.

Of course, if you enjoy the TV series, I'd highly recommend watching the movie. Don't expect it to make anything clearer, though.

ShellyKukai · 2006-01-01, 07:46

If you remember correctly, the movie ends just before the vietnam war.
So we don't get to see the blood bath, or Saya's insanity unfold. But we know the series picks up after the events in the film because characters like David and Karl keep on saying " 30 years ago blah blah blah Saya was crazy."
By the way David, Lewis and Saya were the only charactersfrom the series featured in the film.
While viewing the film isn't like a must or anything, I think seeing it would help you understand how miserable Saya was before her new life and why she may have gone insane.
Here is a character bio I found on the film website:

Saya, the film's mysterious, brooding protagonist, is played by the vivacious Youki Kodoh, who recently made her Hollywood debut in the feature film Snow Falling on Cedars.

A loner expelled from human society as well as the domain of beasts,paying heed to no one, beholden to no one - this beautiful nocturnal creature simply roams the darkness, bringing about a cruel destiny to all those who cross her path. Only undying legends will forever capture the tale of this accursed creature.

Some hints about Saya/Diva's? orgins taken from the film website but explained in more detail in the novel Blood the Last Vampire Night of the Beast:

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kari-no-sugata · 2006-01-01, 18:07

I wouldn't necessarily assume that Blood+ directly follows on from Blood The Last Vampire. Using concepts yes, but not necessarily directly based. After all, the movie doesn't have Haji, Saya's current sword...

Anyway, I don't think the movie contains any necessarily information - the TV series doesn't assume any special knowledge that I can see.

hat_hair · 2006-01-03, 22:50

They probably wrote it specifically so that anyone could watch the series without having seen the film, because to do otherwise would be, frankly, a stupid decision. However, anyone who has seen the film will get a bonus from having seen that.

Although there's a good chance, from what I can see, that the series and the film are indeed set in slightly different universes. This doesn't rule out the film as good background watching though.

linton · 2006-01-04, 07:17

For those getting the subbed episodes, which versions are you watching?

Reason being, I'm about to start on this show, and have noticed the file size difference between the bakakozou subbed and the rest (230mb+ Vs 170mb+).

I like the bakakozou subs (from the promo+trailer I downloaded), and was just wondering if the size difference is due to a better video resolution?

Cheers, Linton

Fushigiai · 2006-01-04, 08:05

Well, I downloaded from bakakozou and the rest and I can´t see any quality difference. It´s all good

Suffering in my longing for the next episode. (and I just -loved- the killer babies=)

(btw, i know this doesn´t belong here but I´m really not that good with forums...I rather stink acctually

So, if u know some good shonen ai pleas tell me. I´m starved for gay..erhm..love. ^, ^

Yuiichi · 2006-01-06, 09:04

I just finished watching episode 11 (a little behind, I know

) and I have a question that some of you might be able to answer.

David mentioned he heard about Diva in Joel's Journal. First of all, who is Joel? I don't remember if that was ever explained. Secondly, what is Diva? Some all powerful chiropitean?

2005-12-25, 09:27	Link #42
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	ep12 is great! I wonder if Spoiler: the Goddess of Songs is the original Saya...

2005-12-30, 16:37	Link #43
kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Spoiler for some comments on ep 12: Seems likely that Diva is similar to Saya, on some level at least. Could be very different in apperance and some kind of biological monstrosity... Looks like Diva started singing when Saya started getting closer - ie Diva is worried about Saya, and can also sense her. Saya's senses also seem to be getting stronger. Also looks like Karl and Solomon have been around for 100 years or so. I wonder how old Hagi is... Looks like Saya gets pretty pissed off in the next ep and goes to another level. I wonder what triggers it - does she simply start raging and get progressively worse, or does seeing Kai there make her pissed off? I can't imagine she'll be too happy with David afterwards... Sucks we have to wait another week for the next ep...

2005-12-30, 23:22	Link #44
Akuma-sama Purr, good kitty... Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Québec, Canada Age: 38	Oh... My... God. Spoiler: Just saw it, and it's the coolest thing since the invention of freezers. I can't be the only one who was reminded of Resident Evil throughout the battle scene And yes, quite gory, quite bloody, and very, very nice. What IS Diva anyway? Kinda sad to have the Hook episode so late in the series, though. Oh well. January 14th can't come fast enough... and Shinsen's sub after, f'course... __________________ Author of My∞HiME and MGLN: Through Troubled Waters, read and drop a review please Currently watching: Kurenai, Zettai Karen Children, Kyouran Kazoku Nikki, Shion no Ou

2005-12-31, 08:30	Link #46
ShellyKukai Member Join Date: May 2004	I loved episode 12 because it finaly gave us an idea of what the series is about. Spoiler: The main thrust being that it looks like everything will boil down to a final confrontation between Diva and Saya. Saya is anxious to move on with her life. Whatever that means at this point. She's afraid of losing herself and I like this Saya but if she knew the truth about her identity she would realize she isn't her true self at all. I wonder if Haji is irritated by her memory loss. This shoujo Saya which is the complete opposite of the Saya we saw in the opening episode 1 and the film, novel, and graphic novel. And just who is Diva? Was that her in the photograph with Karl and Solomon? And why is it the case that Diva's chevaliers need Saya? Anyway, this was really the best episode yet. I actualy got a little scared. I think of possible you should watch the movie before the series. Things would make more sense.

2005-12-31, 09:16	Link #48
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	For Diva Spoiler for speculation based on the manga and movie setting: maybe she's the original vampire which Saya is made out of as a clone?

2005-12-31, 01:24	Link #45
Shades Kali Kompton Hoodlum Join Date: Aug 2004	So it seems the movie is loosely related...do you think people should watch the movie before they see the series, or wait until the series is over before watching? Or it doesn't matter? I'm watching the series but I haven't seen the movie. Wondering if I should watch it.

2005-12-31, 09:54	Link #50
Kamion うぷぷぷ・・・ Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Age: 37	I'm really looking forward to Episode 13... the preview looked really promising. And I was pretty annoyed with Saya in Episode 12, too... I like Saya, but I'm really looking forward to see a real fight ^_^

2005-12-31, 21:24	Link #53
Aristophanes I have returned Join Date: Dec 2005	Am so sick of saya refusing to fight...it was understandable the first 6 times but now it's just stupid...

2005-12-31, 22:15	Link #54
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	Though I saw it a few years ago, I don't recall the movie explaining anything whatsoever. My impression of it at the time was that the animation was beautifully done and the concepts seemed cool, but I had little to no idea what was going on, why things were happening, and so forth. Someone mentioned that the events of the movie occured 30 years prior to the TV series; I'd like to know where they heard that. I've asked about the relation between the TV series and the movie, and I've heard responses ranging from that it's a select part of the TV series to that it's something of a "parallel universe" (that is, same characters and general idea, but no relation to each other). In my mind, the two are essentially unrelated. Of course, if you enjoy the TV series, I'd highly recommend watching the movie. Don't expect it to make anything clearer, though. __________________

2006-01-01, 07:46	Link #55
ShellyKukai Member Join Date: May 2004	If you remember correctly, the movie ends just before the vietnam war. So we don't get to see the blood bath, or Saya's insanity unfold. But we know the series picks up after the events in the film because characters like David and Karl keep on saying " 30 years ago blah blah blah Saya was crazy." By the way David, Lewis and Saya were the only charactersfrom the series featured in the film. While viewing the film isn't like a must or anything, I think seeing it would help you understand how miserable Saya was before her new life and why she may have gone insane. Here is a character bio I found on the film website: Saya, the film's mysterious, brooding protagonist, is played by the vivacious Youki Kodoh, who recently made her Hollywood debut in the feature film Snow Falling on Cedars. A loner expelled from human society as well as the domain of beasts,paying heed to no one, beholden to no one - this beautiful nocturnal creature simply roams the darkness, bringing about a cruel destiny to all those who cross her path. Only undying legends will forever capture the tale of this accursed creature. Some hints about Saya/Diva's? orgins taken from the film website but explained in more detail in the novel Blood the Last Vampire Night of the Beast: Spoiler: Eternal life project In 1806, a book listed in the inheritance inventory of a prominent family was discovered. While the book suggests plans for creating a being possessing eternal life through combining human and vampire blood, it is not known whether or not this plan was indeed carried out. Some claim that this book contains a list of chiropterans, and others claim that the chiropterans are the result of the project to create beings of mixed human and vampire blood. At the present time, anything is possible.

2006-01-01, 18:07	Link #56
kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I wouldn't necessarily assume that Blood+ directly follows on from Blood The Last Vampire. Using concepts yes, but not necessarily directly based. After all, the movie doesn't have Haji, Saya's current sword... Anyway, I don't think the movie contains any necessarily information - the TV series doesn't assume any special knowledge that I can see.

2006-01-03, 22:50	Link #57
hat_hair Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	They probably wrote it specifically so that anyone could watch the series without having seen the film, because to do otherwise would be, frankly, a stupid decision. However, anyone who has seen the film will get a bonus from having seen that. Although there's a good chance, from what I can see, that the series and the film are indeed set in slightly different universes. This doesn't rule out the film as good background watching though.

2006-01-04, 07:17	Link #58
linton Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia	question regarding subbed torrents For those getting the subbed episodes, which versions are you watching? Reason being, I'm about to start on this show, and have noticed the file size difference between the bakakozou subbed and the rest (230mb+ Vs 170mb+). I like the bakakozou subs (from the promo+trailer I downloaded), and was just wondering if the size difference is due to a better video resolution? Cheers, Linton

2006-01-04, 08:05	Link #59
Fushigiai nani Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In my room mostly. But also Uppsala;P Age: 37	All good Well, I downloaded from bakakozou and the rest and I can´t see any quality difference. It´s all good Suffering in my longing for the next episode. (and I just -loved- the killer babies=) (btw, i know this doesn´t belong here but I´m really not that good with forums...I rather stink acctually So, if u know some good shonen ai pleas tell me. I´m starved for gay..erhm..love. ^, ^

2006-01-06, 09:04	Link #60
Yuiichi Retired. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 35	I just finished watching episode 11 (a little behind, I know ) and I have a question that some of you might be able to answer. David mentioned he heard about Diva in Joel's Journal. First of all, who is Joel? I don't remember if that was ever explained. Secondly, what is Diva? Some all powerful chiropitean?