High School DxD Light Novel - Character power-ups, match-ups, and ratings

[Lucidrago]

Don't take abilities or powers out of context. POD is an attack like no over. While it has that characteristic of being able to reduce things to nothingness, it depends on Rias. Multiple times, it has been shown it can be blocked. So why wouldn't the ability of one of the most powerful weapons on the fave of this Earth not be able to block it? Kokabiep blocked POD with his bare hands and Vali was stronger than him.

Despite what people think, POD doesn't just automatically destroy everything it comes into contact with. It depends on the ability of the user.

When was POD ever a defensive technique? When Sirzechs uses his True Form, the aura of destruction covering him acts as defense. but that's it. All POD users aren't Sirzechs.

When Issei used Penetrate in Volume 18, Rizevim wasn't expecting it. It only worked on Rizevim because of the surprise factor. He wouldn't be fooled again.

[DragonOsman]

Um, it's not a matter of him being fooled or not. Penetrate would still work. Are you thinking he could counter Penetrate?

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by CCPDarkraiRules

From Volume 20 Life 3.

In this quote both Ddraig and Rizevim confirm that Rizevim's Sacred Gear Canceller is working on Issei's DxD form by cancelling some of it but not all of it therefore weakening the power of DxD so against Apophis Issei's DxD form was able to show of its true power.

Originally Posted by Darksider555

That is a plausible theory. He could have reduced the power that Ddraig provided to the form but the power of Ophis was too immense to remove & was able to make up the difference.

Edit: Do you guys think that Vali would be able to [Reflect] Rias's Power of Destruction with his Sacred Gear ability?

But Issei also confirmed that the power wasn't reduced:

Spoiler for First Punch of Issei vs Rizevim:

Rizevim intended to use his left hand to grab my fist! The wings of Lucifer on his back all expanded, and increased his strength. In order to block my fist, Rizevim used his Canceller…. I didn’t use [Penetrate], but the momentum of my fist didn’t weaken, and the aura enveloping it wasn’t eliminated; Rizevim cried out in surprise ‘what is this!?’

That is how Ophis power of Infinity works. For example, If Rizevim's Scared Gear Cancellar makes any power of a Sacred Gear power from 100 to 0, the power of Ophis makes the power Infinity time 100. So even if Rizevim cancelled it once, the Power of Ophis restores it or maintains it the same always.

The same happened with Apophis darkness which was supposed to stop attacks or erase them, but that did not happen with the power of Infinity of Issei.

Spoiler for First Punch of Issei vs Apophis:

After we each finished speaking, I instantly charged out, and directly threw a punch at ApophisÂ’ enormous face!

“[<<D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D D∞D!!!!!!!!>>]”

The fist which was carrying the power of infinity — this direct attack knocked Apophis backwards substantially. Apophis was unable to nullify my punch.

<<Even my darkness cannot cancel out this power! How interesting!>>

What happen to Rizevim, the same happen to Apophis. So both were cancelling Issei's attacks but couldn't due how the power of infinity works. So in both fight we did not see the full potential of DxD if we include this. And the full body of Apophis is cover by darkness with this ability. It is a shield for him.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Power of Destruction is a defensive technique, though? I'm not sure if Penetrate would work on it.

@CCP: The power of Ddraig's abilities was being enhanced by the power of infinity, so the Sacred Gear Canceler couldn't completely cancel it. But the only time Rizevim is confirmed to have tried to use his Canceler against DxD Ise was when he tried to counter Ise's very first punch in that form with it. Is Rizevim's Canceler always on? Or does he have to activate it at will?

@Kiiro: Ise clearly said when fighting Apophis that he had an easier time against Rizevim than he had had against Apophis. Ise still had breathing room against Rizevim. It's true that Ise would've been in trouble if DxD mode had reached its limit while Rizevim was still there, but as it was Rizevim saw it fit to get out of there as he seemed to have thought Ise would've killed him otherwise.

So yeah, Ise himself felt that he had an easier time against Rizevim and like Hakai said, I'm willing to believe him over you on this.

And you asked what head canon was. It's basically canon you create on your own in your own head, hence "head canon". Fantasies. Fan fiction.

It did cancel completely the power of Issei, but the power of Infinity make it always return to how it is, infinity time 100 would be always 100. That is how it works, I explained it above.

About the fight with Rizevim, not even him had a hard time and also have a margin to improve. Didnt we agree with this already? Issei said he said that is was easy with Rizevim, he did, but did he damaged him like he did with Apophis?

Not really, Rizevim was damaged from the explosion of their attacks, not becuase Issei hurt him directly, there is no statement that indicates this unlike with his battle with Apophis where he cleared that both damaged each other. In a melee battle they were even. Rizevim's aura power was weaker for sure, but still far weaker to be called it was a rape.

Need to read the fight insteed to read what Issei said, he clearly said that Rizevim was strong just as Apophis, but not as strong as Apophis:

Spoiler for Vs Rizevim:

I opened my wings and began charging demonic energy for a cannon attack! I narrowed our distance, and then began fighting in close-combat again! My punches and his kicks each hit each otherÂ’s body! The aftermath of these clashes generated shockwaves which caused the surrounding buildings to crumble, and even the mass-produced Evil Dragons which were flying about in the air dropped out of the sky rapidly. I once again realised that this bastardÂ’s strength was extraordinary!

Easier doesnt mean rape. Easier just mean he is comparing their fight and was easier with Rizevim. But nothing happens, take Issei's word if you like.

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Don't take abilities or powers out of context. POD is an attack like no over. While it has that characteristic of being able to reduce things to nothingness, it depends on Rias. Multiple times, it has been shown it can be blocked. So why wouldn't the ability of one of the most powerful weapons on the fave of this Earth not be able to block it? Kokabiep blocked POD with his bare hands and Vali was stronger than him.

Despite what people think, POD doesn't just automatically destroy everything it comes into contact with. It depends on the ability of the user.

When was POD ever a defensive technique? When Sirzechs uses his True Form, the aura of destruction covering him acts as defense. but that's it. All POD users aren't Sirzechs.

When Issei used Penetrate in Volume 18, Rizevim wasn't expecting it. It only worked on Rizevim because of the surprise factor. He wouldn't be fooled again.

Well, PoD does work as defense as how Sirzechs used it against Issei in volume 8:

Spoiler for Vs Sirzechs Volume 8:

I canÂ’t even hit him once! All of the Dragon-shots were taken down! I shot them by mixing gigantic ones in with small ones but Sirzechs-samaÂ’s Power of Destruction is overwhelming. None of my attacks are hitting! Even if I shoot them randomly, they get reduced to nothing by the floating sphere of Power of Destruction! It is small but has splendid power. Just touching it eliminates my attacks.

I breathed out a huge fire-breath towards Sirzechs-sama! You can say that this is the special dragon power I gained at that training! Breath of Fire! It’s not as flashy or strong as that of the old man’s, but unlike Dragon-shot it has a huge range! I will make Sirzechs-sama burn with this! By the way, the name of this move is just what it looks like and is called “Flame Blaze”!

“A splendid breath of dragon fire. But…..”

After nodding his head, Sirzechs-sama waved his hand to the side. The sphere of power of destruction moved and went inside the flamesÂ….. Then it suddenly became bigger!

KYUUUUUUBAAAAAAAN!

The sphere of power of destruction that expanded spread and eliminated the flames inside its range. That sphere can get that big!? All the flames I breathed out were eliminated and the remaining ones just vanished.

The spheres with the power of destruction around Sirzechs-sama also start to gather at one point! HeÂ’s trying to take my shot head on!

“Bring it on! Saaaataaaan Red! Goooooooo!! The shot created by me and Buchou! Dragon-shot Neo Bust Burssssssssssst!”

[Partner.]

“Hmm? What is it Ddraig?”

[That Maou, Lucifer. He negated the Dragon-shot you did. I did think that he has an irregular power for a devil. But for him to be this strongÂ…Â… After that, he retreated with the other MaouÂ’s during the explosion. Well. For you to be able to fight this much at this stage with that man means that you are improving well enough. If it was a few months ago, you would have been defeated instantly.]

So Power of Destruction could be used as defense, but if it is Rias, then i could work but at the same level for Sirzechs.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

@kiiro94 Why are there random "A" in the quotes you provided?

[DragonOsman]

Actually, yeah, the primordial water also tried to cancel Ise's power but couldn't. The power of infinity didn't allow it. Just like how Rizevim's Canceler also tried to invalidate his power but the power of infinity allowed his attacks to maintain full power.

About the Power of Destruction: Sirzechs just has better mastery of it than his sister.

Edit: One post late.
@CCP: Just ignore those. I think it happens because he's copying the quotes in a certain way.

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by CCPDarkraiRules

@kiiro94 Why are there random "A" in the quotes you provided?

I dont know. I just copy paste and they appear like that, maybe the forum changes some characters.

What do you think about what I wrote?

[Darksider555]

Sairaorg can use Regulus Nemea's BxB so I'm wondering if he can evolve it since he isn't truly it's wielder. It would be interesting to see an alternate form of Regulus Rey Leather Rex Imperial Purpure. Maybe he can add the ability to wield the initial Battle Axe of the Sacred Gear on top of the armor but Sairaorg prefers t fight with his fights so this could be a finishing move.

[Lucidrago]

Sirzechs is in the Top 10. That's just not better mastery. That's a freak of nature. Are we going to say Magdaran and Lord Bael can use their POD to destroy anything it touches? POD is OP but not as OP as people think it is. Depends on the user. And Sirzechs is an abnormality among abnormalities.

[syzorst]

Let's do another match up.

Rizevim vs Fenrir (80%)

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Sirzechs is in the Top 10. That's just not better mastery. That's a freak of nature. Are we going to say Magdaran and Lord Bael can use their POD to destroy anything it touches? POD is OP but not as OP as people think it is. Depends on the user. And Sirzechs is an abnormality among abnormalities.

Freak of nature? What do you mean?

Well Magdaran does not even have the same level of mastery as Rias said by the author. And for Lord Bael, well we dont really know but I think Sirzechs is better than him.

What do you mean that it is not OP as people think it is? Talking about we or the people of the novel?

Originally Posted by syzorst

Let's do another match up.

Rizevim vs Fenrir (80%)

I would say a Tie or slightly Rizevim wins.

From spoilers Rias could damaged Fernir.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

He is talking about the fact that Sirzechs' true form is a humanoid shaped POD compared to normal devils.

I would say Sirzechs mastery over POD would be the best shown in the series because of his true form being made of it.

[Darksider555]

How powerful is Bikou? It seems that he has Sun Wukong potential but lacks the level of technique that Sun has plus Bikou is still young?

[DragonOsman]

@Kiiro: What CCP said. And yeah, while I don't like calling him as such, Sirzechs is a freak of nature due to being such a powerful Super Devil. As he himself said, his true form is a mutation. So yeah, he's a freak of nature.

[kiiro94]

Well I want to clear something. The PoD of Sirzechs is not a mutation.

The mutation is Sirzechs itself. This is not something that happen suddenly.

He was a mutation since birth, but his true form did suddenly awaken.

Sirzechs true form, literally is the aura of PoD. Sirzechs compresses that power un human shape where he is only Satan Class.

And is there any spoilers about who got to the finals of the rating game?

With this we might have a new top 10 beings since here are mostly all the strongest.

[B214]

No he wasn't a mutation at birth. It was a sudden mutation as Sirzechs said it himself.

<<Fafafafa. You monster. I see. You have greatly surpassed the former Lucifer. You even greatly outclass the category of a Maou. No, I can feel powers which make me doubt if I can even call you a Devil. –What are you?>>

[That’s what I would like to know. Though it’s certain that it is a sudden mutation. –Either way, the current me can eliminate you.]

[Lucidrago]

Well really we don't know how Sirzechs achieved it exactly.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

Originally Posted by kiiro94

Well I want to clear something. The PoD of Sirzechs is not a mutation.

The mutation is Sirzechs itself. This is not something that happen suddenly.

He was a mutation since birth, but his true form did suddenly awaken.

Sirzechs true form, literally is the aura of PoD. Sirzechs compresses that power un human shape where he is only Satan Class.

And is there any spoilers about who got to the finals of the rating game?

With this we might have a new top 10 beings since here are mostly all the strongest.

If you are talking about the Azazel Cup the top 16 teams are confirmed:

Spoiler for Azazel Cup Top 16 Teams:

Team Red Dragon Emperor of the Blazing Truth
Team Rias Gremory
Team Imperial Purpure
Team White Dragon Emperor of the Morning Star
Team Slash/Dog
Team Spear of Heavenly Emperor
Team Journey to the West
Team Trump Card of Heaven
Team Asura
Team Babel Belial
Team Phoenix
Team Vajra
Team Jest of the Kings
Team Black Satan of Darkness Dragon King
Team Shooting Star
Team Black

[DragonOsman]

Who's on teams Vajra and Black?

@Kiiro: Sirzechs himself said that it's a sudden mutation, as the quote provided by B214 shows. He must've mutated some time after he was already born if we go by what he said.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

Team Vajra is Indra's and Team Black is Surtr's.

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by B214

No he wasn't a mutation at birth. It was a sudden mutation as Sirzechs said it himself.

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Who's on teams Vajra and Black?

@Kiiro: Sirzechs himself said that it's a sudden mutation, as the quote provided by B214 shows. He must've mutated some time after he was already born if we go by what he said.

Well, it could be a sudden mutation in the blood line of gremory.

Spoiler for Father of Sirzechs:

“There is no doubt that he is a mutation of a Devil. Why did that happen? Is there something in my blood? Or is it a special trait inside the blood of Bael? We don’t know anything about it. –Except it is certain that Sirzechs and Ajuka are the only Super-Devils within the current Underworld. Maybe it was their destiny to become a Maou. After all there wasn’t any other position which would fit them. That’s how powerful Sirzechs is.”

His father describes it that Sirzechs is a mutation of a Devil and asks himself if it was his blood or the Bael Blood, meaning it Sirzechs was destined since birth.

Besides, his PoD form, is called True Form, not chaotic form which would be an upgrade of himself. The PoD form is his True Form literally, but since this is a form he cant control, he compresses its power in a human shape, in this what we know as Sirzechs.

Sirzechs and Azazel even say so:

Spoiler for True Form:

[In this form, the power of destruction spreads without my command. Without any barrier of field, it will make everything go back to nothingness. –It was fortunate that this shrine was made very strong. It seems like this place will last longer.]

The new form of the power of destruction is none other than Sirzechs himself.

So this is the true form of Sirzechs……

Are you telling me that insane quantity of power of destruction compressed itself into the form of a human……? But the quantity of aura I can feel with my skin……! From the amount of aura I can feel right now……. Isn’t it ten times more than that of the former Lucifer!?

Sirzechs compresses his power in Human Shape as we know him like this: