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Old 2017-04-07, 13:15   Link #21
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Old 2017-04-07, 18:51   Link #22
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is this anime the result of years long resentment towards Light Novel staples?

This could be very good or very bad.
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Old 2017-04-07, 18:57   Link #23
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It was funny and weird at the same time. And that made me want to know more
The way the entities from other worlds are being treated as being influenced by particular creators of the "Hub World" intrigues me.

This is just an assumption of mine, but I usually prefer to believe every kind of story, real or fictional, in any kind of media or the likes, is but a representation of a different dimension or reality, potentially depicting accuratelly or not the reality of said other world to us.

Wouldn't things sound more interesting this way? Of course, the way the Anime is presenting the setting also seems plausible, in a fictional sense
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Old 2017-04-07, 19:01   Link #24
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is this anime the result of years long resentment towards Light Novel staples?
Why resentment? It seems to follow the LN template pretty closely.
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Old 2017-04-07, 19:07   Link #25
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Whoops. Didn't know I'd posted my stuff in the anticipation thread. Reposting here for future discussions.

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Anime-now had posted an article regarding the first episode they managed to watch a few weeks earlier. No real spoilers aside from confirming what we already know. This show's really gonna be going down the rabbit hole. Bringing fictional characters to life and having them realize they're fictional is nothing new for American cartoons. In Fairly Odd-Parents, Timmy wished his favorite comic book Crimson Chin to life. Rick and Morty did something similar with Rick having created a microverse and tricking its inhabitants into creating power for his car. I can't recall any anime that did this, but the closest I can think of is Othinus from Index.

This is plenty for a discussion and I'd like to give my two cents about it. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. I'm a casual Christian who either sleeps through service or skips it and theology says the same thing as the show. The existence of an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god, whatever you want to call it, can only mean that everything is his doing. God does not cast dice. The concepts of randomness, chance, and free will violate god's omnipotence and omniscience so they can only be illusions. Did you blink? You didn't decide to blink. God decided you'd blink and made it happen. Nothing can be unless god wills it to be. Essentially, god is the author of our lives, deciding everything we do and everything that happens to us then making those things happen. This isn't tyranny. It's just the only way things can be. So what if everything that happened to you was for the entertainment of millions of other gods? It's not like you ever had a choice to begin with. No one can be their own creator.
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I brought in religion for my argument. I'm not devout by any measurement, but I took a class in theology and it pretty much says that human beings in reality are fictional characters created by an omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent god. Every event and every details of their lives are scripted. Therefore, free will is an illusion. My conclusion is none of this even matters because there's nothing you can do about it. Free will was never a possibility. No one can be their own creator.
As for the episode itself, it was...light? I expected the characters spend more time getting their bearings and dicking around, but they settled down pretty quickly.

I find Souta's first few minutes particularly interesting. His monologue could be retrospective of the events that are about to take place, but I suspect it's not. He claims himself to be a narrator and desires to tell "her" story. Then he returns home and tries to draw, failing to draw any inspiration from not!pixiv, and finally giving up to watch the latest episode of his favorite anime. It's interesting he has such a specific piece of equipment for drawing, but finds himself unable to. Is he in a slump? Or is he some noob who bought such an expensive piece of equipment only to realize he's got nothing? Then there's the elephant in the room. The military uniform princess is the only fictional character with no known original source material and she seems to recognize Souta. I suspect that she may be what Souta was trying to create, the main character of the story he was trying to tell. That or a character he created when he was a kid, but doesn't remember.
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Old 2017-04-07, 20:56   Link #26
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It was different but also not different at all. Unlike Kado I didn't really get a feel for the overall story or road this is gonna go down. Himegimi is a bit neat but I don't know how long she can hold the fort as sole antagonist in a 22 episode series, or what this show is going to do with that many episodes. I guess it's a situation where I really need 3 episodes to probably gauge it.
I am glad it didn't weigh down the audience with exposition and showed us characteristics with action and conversation. Still disappointed Celestia took everything so lightly and that was that.
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Old 2017-04-08, 00:06   Link #27
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Ep 01

Not quite sure what to think of this one - I kinda liked some parts of it and thought other parts were odd. Sometimes it worked well and other times it ... not so much fell flat or did not work but was just ... odd? Like I had zero context for processing what I was watching.

Will also admit that the OST and audio in general works quite effectively for me.

But I am kinda interested, I must admit. Not a bad first episode on the whole, I think?

Will give other episodes a try at least.
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Old 2017-04-08, 01:21   Link #28
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Episode 1

Like others I don't know what to think about this series, the animation, soundtrack, fights and desgins are quite nice but what is for me a let down is how the story from beginning to end wasn't something original, in fact, it feels quite similar to other stories with the same settings.

I'm still interested on this show and see what happens so I'll give more episodes but to be honest this feels like another generic adaptation based on a random LN.
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Old 2017-04-08, 01:21   Link #29
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When I heard of the concept I immediately thought of a 50s-60s- short sci-fi story (I think it was by Ray Bradbury, but I'm not sure) where the life of the people "inside the TV" is discussed. This concept hasn't been used in anime that much, so it's interesting.

For now it looks intriguing, we'll see how it's going to develop, with 22 episodes they have enough time.
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:08   Link #30
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Like the music. Will continue following this series. Hope it becomes more interesting and doesn't disappoint.
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:15   Link #31
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Well... It seems most folks around here ended up having the same reaction as me. Interesting
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:18   Link #32
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Lol, kinda hard to give accurate review with this episode lol.

Still will try to have hope. Even though this has staff which was involved in Aldnoah Zero (the series which disappointments you at the end lol). Any chance that if there is a possible romance in this that certain girl hooks up with a character who randomly showed for last few episode after all the build up with the MC?

Anyway, need to give a chance to every TV original anime.
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:25   Link #33
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Lol, kinda hard to give accurate review with this episode lol.

Still will try to have hope. Even though this has staff which was involved in Aldnoah Zero (the series which disappointments you at the end lol). Any chance that if there is a possible romance in this that certain girl hooks up with a character who randomly showed for last few episode after all the build up with the MC?

Anyway, need to give a chance to every TV original anime.
Well technically speaking she already has a love interest, the "Charon" guy.
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:34   Link #34
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Oh, you got me there lol.
Looking at the website I guess this Charon guy may not appear in the real world.
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Old 2017-04-08, 02:57   Link #35
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Hmm... Better production values than I was expecting going in, even though I had seen the PVs. Really good music and action scenes. I think the execution was kinda off-center, but I understand they're trying to set their pieces up. I'm curious enough to see where it goes for now.
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Old 2017-04-08, 04:42   Link #36
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The existence of an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god, whatever you want to call it, can only mean that everything is his doing. God does not cast dice. The concepts of randomness, chance, and free will violate god's omnipotence and omniscience so they can only be illusions. Did you blink? You didn't decide to blink. God decided you'd blink and made it happen. Nothing can be unless god wills it to be. Essentially, god is the author of our lives, deciding everything we do and everything that happens to us then making those things happen. This isn't tyranny. It's just the only way things can be. So what if everything that happened to you was for the entertainment of millions of other gods? It's not like you ever had a choice to begin with. No one can be their own creator.
I let myself to disagree a bit. Firstly, I once met a interesting reasoning. What such being could do in order to make it's existence more intriguing? There is one: make himself forgot about being omnipotent and became mortar and limited. And I can see how it can be implemented here.

Also for me discussing about fate/predestination is completely pointless. Unless method to find out a future is known, then there is no way to check, if such thing like fate exist. Assuming, that God created everything, and was able to predict all of results, in my opinion it doesn't mean a free will do not exist. Being, which exists in such world, still make their own decisions basic on facts and reality known to him, and that matters.
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Old 2017-04-08, 05:14   Link #37
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Nasu said that this is about how we look at fiction with the same themes as Nier Automata and Persona 5. As a rather big fan of those two, I am really looking forward to what's in store.

So far, I'll just say it wasn't a disappointing ep1 for me. Every other show I've seen this season has disappointed me in some way so far
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Old 2017-04-08, 05:32   Link #38
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The same themes as Nier Automata and Persona 5?
And what does Kinoko Nasu have to do with this story?
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Old 2017-04-08, 06:07   Link #39
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And what does Kinoko Nasu have to do with this story?
Nothing directly, he commented about the show on his blog.
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Old 2017-04-08, 06:28   Link #40
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Oh, that's nice
But what were those themes he talked about?
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