BlazBlue (Calamity Trigger, Continuum Shift, Chrono Phantasma)

[DragoonKain3]

Actually, isn't that around the largest advantage SF4 has in terms of match-ups? I remember some 70-30 ones in SF4 (Hello Sagat?), so you can't call CS incredibly unbalanced unless you call SF4 one as well.

It's not perfect, but which fighter is? I'd take it.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Actually, isn't that around the largest advantage SF4 has in terms of match-ups? I remember some 70-30 ones in SF4 (Hello Sagat?), so you can't call CS incredibly unbalanced unless you call SF4 one as well.

SFIV is the first version and has 25 fighters, console version just added underpowered characters and had nothing rebalanced period.

BB CS is the second version and has 14 fighters, is getting rebalanced for console as well as an additional fighter.

You can claim they're equal but you have to take those numbers into account.. and SSFIV with 35 characters from most accounts is even better balanced than SFIV. SSFIV Arcade will more than likely add a few characters as well as get tweaked as well, Arcade version is probably going to be DLC for console.

Sagat vs Claw is no longer 7-3 in Japan in top play. Izuna vortex works wonders on Sagat... still in Sagat's favour or course...

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Westlo

SFIV is the first version and has 25 fighters, console version just added underpowered characters and had nothing rebalanced period.

BB CS is the second version and has 14 fighters, is getting rebalanced for console as well as an additional fighter.

You can claim they're equal but you have to take those numbers into account.. and SSFIV with 35 characters from most accounts is even better balanced than SFIV. SSFIV Arcade will more than likely add a few characters as well as get tweaked as well, Arcade version is probably going to be DLC for console.

Sagat vs Claw is no longer 7-3 in Japan in top play. Izuna vortex works wonders on Sagat... still in Sagat's favour or course...

Yeah but a lot of those 25 fighters are just different variations of each other. Whereas each fighter in BB is so different that they could have come from different fighting games.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

Yeah but a lot of those 25 fighters are just different variations of each other. Whereas each fighter in BB is so different that they could have come from different fighting games.

This isn't 1994 anymore, Ken isn't a headswap of Ryu so 2P can also play as "Ryu" against a P1 Ryu. There's a reason people like me keep playing as Ken in SFIV even though he's vastly inferior to Ryu, the playstyle is different. None of the incoming 10 fighters in Super play like any of the existing 25 cast members as well..

[Nerroth]

I got the PSP version earlier in the week.


So far, I ran through the story mode (not quite 100%, though) as well as the arcade modes for Noel, Tao and chichinohito, a Legion campaign in easy mode, plus the odd versus and training bout.


I'm not a big fighting game-r, so I got this more to enter the BlayzeBloo shopping setting - and I was not disappointed! The backdrop is very compelling, most of the characters are interesting to follow, plus I like how different (so far) the story told in the Arcade Mode for a character is distinct from the branches in the Story Mode levels.

I'm really hoping there'll be a version of the sequel for the PSP.


There are a few things I'd like to figure out, though.

Spoiler for Qs:

*Is there a BB timeline around?

*Is Ragna a daywalker, as opposed to being a full vampire? (He seems to be able to eat, plus Tao doesn't pick up death on him the way she did for Rachel).

*Is there any part of alternate-Jin's physical form in Hakumen's body, or is Hakumen essentially the equivalent of an eldar Wraithlord - in that it's a fully separate construct implanted with a soul?

*If Hakumen - or at least, the Susano'o unit with alternate-Jin's soul - is only meant to be created in the 'present', how did he fight the Dark War as one of the Six Heroes?

*Does anyone know what Tao's names for Tsubaki, Mu-12 and Hazama are?

*When Hakumen gives his pre-fight spiel in the Arcade Mode, he says 'I am such-and-such'... and one of the phrases sounds like he's saying 'I am Jin!'. Is that a coincidence, or does the text which comes up in the Japanese version for that bit read the same as the way one would read Jin's name?

Also, I noticed something when re-watching the opening chapter of the story mode.

Spoiler for CT/CS thing:

When Noel is shown after the city is blasted, a similar kind of giant sword thing to what Mu-13 has is planted into the ground beside her. Would I be right in guessing that is the Azure Grimoire which would turn her into Mu-12, if/when she is brought into contact with it?

[SilverSyko]

Originally Posted by Nerroth

Spoiler for Qs:

*Is Ragna a daywalker, as opposed to being a full vampire? (He seems to be able to eat, plus Tao doesn't pick up death on him the way she did for Rachel).

*Is there any part of alternate-Jin's physical form in Hakumen's body, or is Hakumen essentially the equivalent of an eldar Wraithlord - in that it's a fully separate construct implanted with a soul?

*Does anyone know what Tao's names for Tsubaki, Mu-12 and Hazama are?

Spoiler for Reply, CS spoilers:

Ragna is not a full vampire and does not have any vampiric instincts. The only evidence he was ever bitten by Rachel is his heterochemia in which one of his eyes turned red.

Noone knows whether Hakumen has ever retained any physical traits of Jin. He did take his mask off at one point but we never saw what was there.

The only one known right now is Hazama's. I believe she calls him "green guy".

Spoiler for CT/CS thing:

When Noel is shown after the city is blasted, a similar kind of giant sword thing to what Mu-13 has is planted into the ground beside her. Would I be right in guessing that is the Azure Grimoire which would turn her into Mu-12, if/when she is brought into contact with it?

Spoiler for Reply, CS spoilers.:

Correction, it's NU-13.

Noel is the bearer of the true Azure. She doesn't need an Azure Grimoire as she already has the power herself. It also allows her "eyes" to see the master unit Amaterasu sealed inside the Boundary. Hazama/Terumi only tampered with it and created the ultimate Murakumo unit Mu-12 to wield Kusanagi "the sword that slays the gods" to destroy Amaterasu.

[Nerroth]

Originally Posted by SilverSyko

Spoiler for Reply, CS spoilers:

Ragna is not a full vampire and does not have any vampiric instincts. The only evidence he was ever bitten by Rachel is his heterochemia in which one of his eyes turned red.

Okay then.

Spoiler:

Noone knows whether Hakumen has ever retained any physical traits of Jin. He did take his mask off at one point but we never saw what was there.

Speaking of faces,

Spoiler for q:

What about Tao? I wonder if she'd look more like Kokonoe, or Jubei, or something else entirely...

Spoiler:

The only one known right now is Hazama's. I believe she calls him "green guy".

By that logic,

Spoiler for speculation:

maybe Tsubaki is pink lady? Actually, I wonder if I missed a reference to Tsubaki or Makoto in the Litchi-sensei ep... EDIT: Makoto = furry-tail-girl! Yay for Litchi-sensei. No Tsubaki reference, though.

Spoiler for Reply, CS spoilers.:

Correction, it's NU-13.

Noel is the bearer of the true Azure. She doesn't need an Azure Grimoire as she already has the power herself. It also allows her "eyes" to see the master unit Amaterasu sealed inside the Boundary. Hazama/Terumi only tampered with it and created the ultimate Murakumo unit Mu-12 to wield Kusanagi "the sword that slays the gods" to destroy Amaterasu.

But still,

Spoiler for cs:

would there not be some physical component to the transformation which would be tied to that sword - even just in terms of triggering her latent potential? The impression I got was that when Rachel spirited her away to the Vermillion estate, she left the sword wherever it had been taken by whoever had found Noel at Ikaruga, and that only if/when she sees the sword again would the 12 persona be triggered.

Or something.

Oh, one other thing (for now) - I saw a version of the console intro on YouTube, which has a song with lyrics in it. However, on the PSP version (or at least on my copy of it) the console OP has the same music as the arcade mode intro video.

Odd.


EDIT: Is that Makoto sitting in the background of the port stage at night, or some other beastgirl?

[SilverSyko]

Originally Posted by Nerroth

But still,

Spoiler for cs:

would there not be some physical component to the transformation which would be tied to that sword - even just in terms of triggering her latent potential? The impression I got was that when Rachel spirited her away to the Vermillion estate, she left the sword wherever it had been taken by whoever had found Noel at Ikaruga, and that only if/when she sees the sword again would the 12 persona be triggered.

Or something.

Spoiler for CS Spoilers, hope this helps.:

The Murakumo (the name of the sword that turns into armor) is completely unrelated to the fact that Noel turns into Mu-12 in Continuum Shift. The Murakumo was a Nox Nyctores (an amplified form of Ars Magus weapon) created by Terumi after the Dark War which he meant to use on his produced line of Saya clones. The real reason Noel transforms into Mu-12 is because of the power of the Azure within her. To somewhat quote Terumi "The Cauldron is required to smelt the sword Kusanagi from the gathered souls of all the people the bearer of the Azure Grimoire (which is Terumi/Hazama) has smitten". It's possible Noel could only wield the Kusanagi in her "murakumo" state.

Oh, one other thing (for now) - I saw a version of the console intro on YouTube, which has a song with lyrics in it. However, on the PSP version (or at least on my copy of it) the console OP has the same music as the arcade mode intro video.

Yeah, maybe the song caused some functionality issues or something. I wouldn't really know.

EDIT: Is that Makoto sitting in the background of the port stage at night, or some other beastgirl?

Doubt it's Makoto, she's with the NOL remember?

[Nerroth]

Also - has there been a set of translations done for these?


EDIT: I was watching this - and while I'm... not too sure what was going on, I couldn't help but notice just how much Tsubaki/Asami seemed to be, well, pretty much running the whole thing!

[ZeroForever]

better then CT and most fighting games in general but 6.5:3.5 is still pretty bad.

Overall it seems pretty balanced, kinda glad Nu/Lamda is middle now as people can STFU if they lose now, but seriously if i see a explosion of bangs online.... ugh.

[Nerroth]

I found a subbed version of the newer radio show!

After watching some of this stuff, I'm suddenly finding Tsubaki a lot more interesting...

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Nerroth

I found a subbed version of the newer radio show!

After watching some of this stuff, I'm suddenly finding Tsubaki a lot more interesting...

Oh wow, that is AWESOME.

[Nerroth]

Yes. Yes it is.


By the way, there was an earlier release special for the arcade edition of CS - which has stuff about the PSP release of CT in it.

I want CS for PSP, damnit!

[SilverSyko]

Aww poor Bang, everybody ganging up on him. That's not how you treat one who fights for love and justice. xD

The dance he and Jin did too was epic. =p

And yeah, Tsubaki definetly has the leader-like role on that show which makes her one of the more interesting people there. Rachel was awfully untalkative though.

I'm so glad this fella decided to sub it. Hope he does Spring Raid part 2 and 3 soon.~

[Nerroth]

Bang should have been more of a gentlemen to that other Noel. Chichinohito would not approve of such loutish behaviour!


And also - I had a bunch of questions/observations/etc I was gonna list... but right now, I can't think of them. Sigh.

[Sylphic]

Man... it's a pity the dirty bits were cut out. They sounded like they would have been huge amounts of fun.

Rachel is an M? wut? :P.

[MrTerrorist]

I love the BlazBlue Radio show.
I laughed when Tomokazu Sugita gave Kanako Kondou and Asami Imai their funny nicknames; "Kondom" and "Imagine" respectively. I was ROFL when i heard that!

[germanturkey]

aww.. i miss Nu. how do you not want one after seeing that?

[germanturkey]

for the jin players out there. credit to stunedge from DL. what a nasty video. yes, the beginning is CT, but the rest is CS. but the damage done would make you think CT..

[Bananoha]

Har, BluRaji is why I bought the game. Gotta check these ones out when I have more time.

Originally Posted by SilverSyko

Aww poor Bang, everybody ganging up on him. That's not how you treat one who fights for love and justice. xD

Considering how censored he was on the radio show for CT, I'd gang up on him too. >__>;

And yeah, Tsubaki definetly has the leader-like role on that show which makes her one of the more interesting people there. Rachel was awfully untalkative though.

Freedom Sugita can be a bit of a bully [orz Kondoumu], so Asamingosu Imagine is there to.... save the poor girl, rofl. She's pretty crazy from the few Idolmaster things I've seen and kind of awesome from what people tell me. Seiyuu for Litchi proposed to Imagine and she basically went "FCUK NO." I think that's all kinds of awesome.

Actually, Ueda Kana just has a tendency to not talk a lot if there's a lot of people. I only clearly remember her from Nanoha A's/StS afureko and she did the same thing. The Rachel episode for the show is actually second in views, with the first being the first episode. It's been nearly a year since I've seen it, so don't really remember much, sorry.

.... Reminds me of how on her own radio show, Marunage, Ueda Kana made a list of seiyuu she thinks are ドM with co-host Shimizu Kaori, lol.