StarCraft 2

[brocko]

Well they've already got the unit model and animation for it, mine as well chuck it in the editor if you ask me, would be a quite waste if they didn't imo, especially considering as a number of you guys already mentioned W3 had some neat little SC extra too.

Anywayz a comparison vid that may be of interest to some here, using footage from the Zerg Release Video renacted with normal Starcraft, I don't think the creator had Broodwar as medics and lurkers were no where to be found when they should've been in it lol

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/player.html?vid=1725

[Cheezy]

Blizzard has alredy confirmed that units that won't make it to the final game will be avaiable for use in the editor.

The Tauren Marine will also be included.

[HaZzArD]

Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

A quick off topic question:

Has anyone read the starcraft novels? and are they any good?
I'm interested at buying The StarCraft Archive and the Queen of Blades.

Need more Kerrigan (Can't find the right smiley)

my friend has one of there books dont remember which and told me it was horrible..

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Cheezy

Blizzard has alredy confirmed that units that won't make it to the final game will be avaiable for use in the editor.

The Tauren Marine will also be included.

Are the Tauren Marine's going to say "don't have a cow" or mad cow coming through. And will there be any Red Bulls

Originally Posted by lilguy

It's probably a unit in the editor, like the Space Fel Orcs in Warcraft III

Whenever i say space going orcs, i automatically think of the Scros form Spelljammer.

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by HaZzArD

my friend has one of there books dont remember which and told me it was horrible..

That would be Queen of Blades, since it flew in the face of everything canon.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

That would be Queen of Blades, since it flew in the face of everything canon.

Which novels that don't suck do you need to read if you want to read more of/about Kerrigan?

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

Which novels that don't suck do you need to read if you want to read more of/about Kerrigan?

Order of the books chronologically:

Uprising, Speed of Darkness, Liberty's Crusade (ep 1 novelization), Queen of Blades (ep 2 novelization), Shadows of the Xelnaga (between SC and BW), Dark Templar trilogy (post BW)

[IHaveCrayons]

Originally Posted by Cheezy

Blizzard has alredy confirmed that units that won't make it to the final game will be avaiable for use in the editor.

The Tauren Marine will also be included.

They should have a unit editor! Then the possibilities of user created maps would be endless...

[lilguy]

If you mean by editing stats, that's a given.

If you mean as in creating units, then you can do that too, as long as you have the right programs to port them into the game and you know what you're doing.

[IHaveCrayons]

Originally Posted by lilguy

If you mean by editing stats, that's a given.

If you mean as in creating units, then you can do that too, as long as you have the right programs to port them into the game and you know what you're doing.

But I mean, having the units be able to be downloaded with the map rather than a separate package for user-created maps.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Order of the books chronologically:

Uprising, Speed of Darkness, Liberty's Crusade (ep 1 novelization), Queen of Blades (ep 2 novelization), Shadows of the Xelnaga (between SC and BW), Dark Templar trilogy (post BW)

But you did say the Queen of Blades was bad. So the Kerrigan parts aren't?
oke that was my last question, because I think I'm irritating you enough with all these questions.

[Demongod86]

Queen of Blades was very bad because it completely flew in the face of the first zerg and some of the first protoss campaign. For instance, in the campaign, Raynor never directly confronts Kerrigan as she opens from the cocoon. Second of all, it happens above ground, not in some underground passageway. Third of all, Zeratul is not characterized very well at all, ditto Tassadar. Fourth of all, Tassadar never confronts Kerrigan directly in the game. Fifth of all, near the end, Tassadar, Zeratul, and Raynor keep hitting and running the zerg armies and whittle them down quite hard when in the game, the exact opposite is true--Zeratul's and Tassadar's armies are both relatively destroyed and Zeratul has to retreat within an installation to hide from Kerrigan. Sixth of all, Tassadar kills the player character cerebrate before the Zerg campaign ends if I recall in the book. Seventh of all, when Aldaris and Artanis (Artanis was the executor--that is, the player character, for the first protoss campaign) arrive to arrest Tassadar, they find him on Char itself and Zeratul vanishes right then and there (stupid), when in the game, he was stuck on a space platform with only Raynor and one HT remaining there.

[Tokkan]

Blizzard changes the canon in their games all the time. I mean, they changed it so that Duke was promoted to General through the course of the first Terran campaign rather than having been a General "for 15 years".

On the Warcraft side, the Ereder were originally always evil and demonic and were the ones who corrupted Sargeras. With WoW they reversed that, the Ereder were once fundamentally good but Sargeras corrupted them with the temptation of power.

They even changed pronunciations a few times, Khadgar was originally pronounced "Card-garr", but with Warcraft III TFT the pronunciation was changed to "Kad-gurr". Same with "Draenor", originally it was just "Druh-nore", but it was changed to "Dray-nore" and "Drah-nore" (both are used, confusingly).

The point here is that Blizzard is never consistent, so novels not being consistent shouldn't matter.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

They even changed pronunciations a few times, Khadgar was originally pronounced "Card-garr", but with Warcraft III TFT the pronunciation was changed to "Kad-gurr". Same with "Draenor", originally it was just "Druh-nore", but it was changed to "Dray-nore" and "Drah-nore" (both are used, confusingly).

The point here is that Blizzard is never consistent, so novels not being consistent shouldn't matter.

I certainly agree that Blizzard isn't shy in reinventing their own game-lores.

However, the changes in pronunciations is probably the least significant of them all. After all, we can assume the words are not from human languages. So like how we can't agree on how to pronounce some Japanese names in English, pronunciation of Orc or Dark Elf tongues in English can be given some leeway.

[kgptzac]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Order of the books chronologically:

Uprising, Speed of Darkness, Liberty's Crusade (ep 1 novelization), Queen of Blades (ep 2 novelization), Shadows of the Xelnaga (between SC and BW), Dark Templar trilogy (post BW)

so books like Nova aren't canon? ._. i like the cover of that book...

[brocko]

It sounds canon enough, if wiki is anything to go by that is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft_Ghost:_Nova

Spoiler for wiki's plot summary:

The novel begins when Nova is sent to a planet named Tyrador for an assassination. Then, the planet reminds her of her early life, 3 years before. On her 15th birthday, November Terra is sent to Tyrador to be safe, since her father is an important figure in the galaxy. Before she leaves the planet for Tyrador, though, she discovers that her mother's sex partner, a man named Edward, has been spying for the Sons of Korhal and has killed her entire family. Then, when Edward is about to kill her, Nova accidentally but stressfully lets out a Psionic storm, killing 307 in a large radius. Shocked that she has killed so many people, she runs into the poor part of the city, and finds a very different world from what she has lived in. Most people live in the slum, and she is quickly found for her telepathic powers. She is kidnapped by a gang leader and starts working as a lie-detector and punisher for him. During that time a government agent is on the look for her, to find her and introduce her to the Ghost project.

Anywayz a new Q&A batch is up:

Chat with the Devs: As of recent, the Dev Team has added a new ability to the Protoss Carrier that will give it a little more Umph! versus Zerg Corrupter attacks or Viking raids. In the past, the Carrier simply had a large swarm of Interceptor fighters which you had to build from scratch. Carriers now come built with 4 Interceptors already loaded (which is also the max number of Interceptors currently). They also have the new ability to have Escorts built for a temporary power boost to focus fire. Strike Fighter Escorts cost resources to build and last only 45 seconds, but add a decent amount of firepower to a Carriers attack. A Carrier can have a maximum of 4 Escorts. Escorts are given attack orders to focus-fire on whatever the Carrier is attacking and they can be destroyed independently of the Carrier or each other. The cost for these Escorts will be significant enough to where players will not want to just have the max number all of the time, as that would bleed your economy needlessly. Thus, players will have to pick and choose their battles in where they want the full force of the Protoss fleet present.

Q: I'm guessing these new escorts can attack both land and air, am i right?
A: The escorts for the Protoss Carrier in its current state, hits both ground and air. Furthermore, they take about 1 second to warp in to battle alongside your Carrier after you make the order to summon them.

Q: When Interceptors get destroyed do we have to manually rebuild them or do they get replaced automatically? Also, does it cost resources to replace them, and how long do they take to come back?
A: Building Interceptors can be toggled to 'auto-build' or be set to manual build. Like the original StarCraft, the Interceptors will cost resources to build (when you lose any from the original 4).

For sauce and the rest of the batch: http://www.battle.net/forums/thread....hreadID=851269

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by kgptzac

so books like Nova aren't canon? ._. i like the cover of that book...

He was talking about the chronology of the novels in the Starcraft Archive.

And because the novels are canon I think the novel of Nova is also canon.

[krisslanza]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Blizzard changes the canon in their games all the time. I mean, they changed it so that Duke was promoted to General through the course of the first Terran campaign rather than having been a General "for 15 years".

On the Warcraft side, the Ereder were originally always evil and demonic and were the ones who corrupted Sargeras. With WoW they reversed that, the Ereder were once fundamentally good but Sargeras corrupted them with the temptation of power.

They even changed pronunciations a few times, Khadgar was originally pronounced "Card-garr", but with Warcraft III TFT the pronunciation was changed to "Kad-gurr". Same with "Draenor", originally it was just "Druh-nore", but it was changed to "Dray-nore" and "Drah-nore" (both are used, confusingly).

The point here is that Blizzard is never consistent, so novels not being consistent shouldn't matter.

Blizzard officially says they only change stuff around if it makes more sense or something along those lines.

And realistically speaking retconning is something that is completely normal for things to go through... or I assume so since I doubt Blizzard every thought Warcraft/Starcraft would sell so well and people would be very interested in its storyline.

[NervZero]

How many people are thinking of playing Starcraft 2 when it comes out?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

And realistically speaking retconning is something that is completely normal for things to go through... or I assume so since I doubt Blizzard every thought Warcraft/Starcraft would sell so well and people would be very interested in its storyline.

Starcraft, maybe... Since it was their first attempt at a science-fic story (i think)

But Warcraft? After 2+ successful games ... Ever they got to know people love it...