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This interview has further supported my view that Okada and Kawamori are both batsh*t insane Now I'm worried that Kawamori is gonna get Okada on board for the new Macross... god have mercy on our souls ... |
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2012-07-19, 04:51 | Link #1003 |
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Romance to them means that the character must be overly obsessed... Stalker-like. If this was real life Amata would have been given a restraining order.
Still not over that Amata launched without orders, nearly got Zessica killed again, and everyone convienently forgets all that and forgives him. Than again everyone in the series tends to forget anything that causes Zessica suffering despite that fact that they've known Zessica longer and they're supposed to be her friends. |
2012-07-19, 14:02 | Link #1004 | |
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2012-07-20, 00:44 | Link #1005 |
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Bad Writing doesn't excuse a character's actions, however. That's what they wanted out of him and that's what he'll be remembered as long after the series is over. At least there's SRW than can fix trainwrecks and turn them into gold and Evol isn't anywhere near as bad as Destiny was, other than the the main pair being comletely horrible compared to even Angry Shinn, so this can be fixed and all the bad stuff ignored once Terada gets his hands on Evol.
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2012-07-20, 06:22 | Link #1007 |
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I doubt that will happen anytime soon since Apollo's recent appearance in SRW, the Z Saga, says that he's Apollonius and Apollonius is a part of the Z saga's main plot as one of the Generals that fell before Ba-al and than reincarnated into Apollo after his death. The enemies of Z even mention Apollonius when talking to Apollo and Apollonius speaks through Apollo confirming that they're one of the same.
The time differences aren't really an issue since they can easily casuse dimensional issues or the such like they did in z2 that aged some of the cast but left the rest alone for part 2. The issue is that Evol depends on Amata and Kagura being the reincarnations of Apollo who is the reincarnation of Pollon which goes against what Z has established as its own canon. Or they can just say Amata is the reincarnation of the Apollo/Pollon of the ZEXIS world but than how'd they hide all their mecha and base of operations for 2 games than? Would be just as big as an asspull as @3 was when they were forced to introduce Gundam SEED because of its popularity. |
2012-07-21, 23:59 | Link #1008 | |||
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Those interviews are very interesting.
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Much as I like MIX, I'd have liked to see the way she was previously envisaged. A pity there could only be one of her in the end. It sounds as if Kawamori might be a difficult person to work with. Quote:
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Shallow love, hmm. Most people were okay with MIX turning into a man, but there was more fuss about Apollo being an angel dog's reincarnation. There were reasons for that besides "ew, a dog! Apollo/Silvia is ruined forever!" - such as writing issues and Celiane/Apollonius not being an eternal romance as thought - but I did notice some of the criticisms were focused just on Pollon being a dog. Kawamori comes over as a bit pretentious, but on that score I think he's right. Not so sure about Pollon being meant to be more of a wolf. He's all cute and fluffy! Kawamori should have made him look more like a wolf if that's the impression he wanted to give. |
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2012-07-23, 20:59 | Link #1009 |
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I was personally upset with them going back and changing up the original Aquarion. Even though Kawamori said he always had that twist in mind, I still doubt that's true because I think someone brought up that he said in an interview that the Pollon thing was Mari Okada's idea.
And I definitely agree with you on him being difficult to work with. Going by what Okada said in her interview made that obvious. Overall it was bad writing and planning that hurt this series. What do you guys think? |
2012-07-23, 22:04 | Link #1010 |
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Well, for planning Okada even said Kawamori doesn't like to do things as planned (or plan things out since that was clearly apparent in EVOL), so that's more of a fault of Kawamori. I guess he thinks of himself as an artist or something, because it seemed like Aquarion was always that painting that he just threw stuff at and thought it looked good.
By the way, Kawamori pretty much swore that Apollo was supposed to be Pollon in his interview, but that the romance of Apollo and Silvia eclipsed that. Too bad there was no setup for it so it makes him look like a fool. "Bad writing" is a very general way to describe what goes wrong, but it's correct. One of the more baffling things to me is that Amata is a "flat" character. Why is he not allowed to have character development? Zessica's development is falling for Amata that influences her later actions. Mikono's development is becoming someone not useless - it kind of happened and then got thrown out the window. Kagura's development is realizing the world's not about "Sylvie" - even if it happened in the very last episode and came out of fucking nowhere. |
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Funny part with Kagura is that the last minute character development in the final episode made him more likable than Amata. |
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2012-08-04, 16:29 | Link #1016 | |
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Another interesting interview. Okada's interview felt the most genuine in a sense. If anyone hasn't read the excerpts from her interview already she talked about the writing process for the show and it revealed some of the problems with the writing. Kawamori's interview rubbed me the wrong way. He sounded like he was trying to make the show seem deeper and smarter than it actually is. Yamamoto's interview seems like it's trying to make excuses for the show, like Amata's poor development. What do you guys think?
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2012-08-04, 17:37 | Link #1017 |
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Aside from the impression that "Everyone was incompetent", another poster put it very well - "For a series that focused so much on romance, the romance sucked". Definitely the shittiest part of the show.
Izumo was a far better villain than Kagura or Mikage - the former was a plot device throughout the show, and the latter had no actual enmity towards the good guys except for Fudo and was detached from pretty much all the drama except for "lolwingsofthesun". The fact that the heads ended up making characters (a lot of them) that were unintentionally far more popular than the ones intended is just silly. "The original work tried but failed to suggest Fudo was Apollonius" It obviously did, because there was no evidence of it in Sousei or EVOL until episode 25, just like how Apollo was supposed to be Pollon but there was not enough buildup for it. Pretty big failure. "Mikage supposed to be similar to Toma" Toma wasn't supremely overpowered. Just look at all the crap Mikage pulls in the show - he goes from manipulating emotions to being able to kill people across planets (Jin),stealing bodies (Zessica), pulling Cherubims out of nowhere (weren't these all destroyed in Sousei? Did he pull them out of time or something), controlling Ianthe's power (where the fuck did this come from), and being able to gattai all of Solar Aquarion by himself. Mikage was fabulous in the manner that he did so, but he was godlike throughout the entire show, and nearly everything was his fault. Bad writing there, imo. There are dozens and dozens of plot threads that were brought up and left unresolved as well. Anyone remember when Mikage said "I'll see you again, Donar Dantes?" When Mikage incorrectly describes Amata and Izumo makes nothing of it? Altair never being resolved? I could go on, but I think I've made my point - things were made up as the show progressed and enjoyment of the show really suffered because of the forced drama upon everyone. |
2012-08-06, 11:36 | Link #1019 |
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The Kagura and Zessica scene wasn't planned after all, huh? Guess they were supposed to have been killed off but that changed during development.
And Kagura was supposed to be a woman? Eh, don't see it. |
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