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2013-04-16, 03:06 | Link #6363 | |
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A scriptwriter purposely trying to discredit the characters wich she created in the first place.. Com on, get real! And I sincerely hope you are not going there as well..
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2013-04-16, 03:06 | Link #6364 |
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Well, certainly changing Kira back to being a main character in Destiny does seem like the director and the crew favours Kira over Shinn(Actually similar thing happened in Dragon Ball when Gohan was supposed to be the main character for Buu saga, but they switched it back to Goku being the main).
I actually liked Shinn so I was sad to see this happened. I hope the remaster actually changes the scene between the battle of Destiny and Infinite Justice, so they can have Infinite Justice lose atleast one limb to make it look like more of a battle...... Oh, there was also some funny information in the guidebook. The voice actress of SEED was asked which male character they prefer between Kira, Sai, Athrun, and some other guys as their boyfriend. To the surprise, Sai was ranked first as the "boyfriend" material followed by Athrun, and Kira(Though, even the voice actress said that Kira seemed unreliable since he cried too often in SEED).
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It's ok to say you wished Shinn was the only main character, but you can't blame anyone for the fact he wasn't. Quote:
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Also, do realize that Kira's reaction to remembering Flay the first time was to say sorry, again showing his sense of guilt, and the second time was to flinch, since it was not a good memory for him. Quote:
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On one hand, you have a girl on her own stuck in an escape pod crying out for help during a battle while Kira is already emotionally shaken in that episode and is already fighting in that battle. On the other hand, you have a girl who is on a ship in space with Andrew protecting her while Kira is on Earth, not under stress, is not fighting in battle, and does not know what kind of danger Lacus was in. Kira is obviously still worried, but he is not in a position to react emotionally as he was in SEED. Quote:
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2013-04-16, 06:37 | Link #6367 | |
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If Athrun didn't grab him Kira would have certainly been killed, although he also expressed confusion as to why exactly this girl in a pod suddenly made Kira lose it so its clear he didn't think retrieving this girl was important. He later sort of understands after Cagalli explains this to him, and to be fair if Kira kept a cool head he could have coordinated a manuever with Athrun and Dearka to break past the druggies and get the pod. But since he's so messed up from the recent revealations and such he just goes off on his own screaming and nearly gets killed. |
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2013-04-16, 07:24 | Link #6368 | |
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As for Lacus being Morosawa's supposed "pet character", didn't she say that Athrun was her favorite character?
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2013-04-16, 07:25 | Link #6369 |
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Shinn was set to be a main character and at the very least I'm sure the original idea was not to rehash the SEED ending and make Shinn the villain. Especially with the call back to Kamille he had going on and Athrun as Char... Even if Athrun is far more abusive than Char when it came to their protege which says a lot.
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2013-04-16, 17:32 | Link #6371 | ||
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However, it's more likely because Kira dominated the Newtype polls, followed by Athrun, and finally Shinn. Quote:
So I think that Destiny was more of Athrun's show, much like how Seed was Kira's show.
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2013-04-16, 19:13 | Link #6372 |
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That might have been more of an afterthought when doing the Special Editions since Athrun was always on the "good" side for the whole show, so they tried to write it off like it was planned. In the actual series though, Athrun never got top billing. It was Shinn at first, then Kira once Durandal became antagonistic.
But yes Kira was always going to have a major role in the show. He was shown prominantly in the OP and the eyecatches from day one, a while before he showed up, and long before he actually started clashing with the new cast. |
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I don't doubt that Kira was supposed to have a fairly major role from the start. Though I do think they went far beyond what they originally expected to do with him. While I originally didn't like Shinn that much, is a shame he was just used as an antagonist by the end.
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2013-04-17, 03:04 | Link #6375 |
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you know with that episode there were 2 things i never got 1 being why did cagalli even acknowledge shinn shouldn't she think hes just some loud mouth punk from zaft. 2 was why didn't everybody notice that "Alex Dino" was in fact Athrun Zala its not like he wasn't on the news or anything.
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2013-04-17, 03:24 | Link #6376 |
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Because shades.
As for Shinn, it's because his words are pretty much true. Cagalli's Father was overly idealistic and it cost the lives of many and he was too naive to even get his own house in order. There's also the fact that the Feds never forgave ZAFT or vice versa after the last war. Thus telling Durandal he shouldn't be building weapons when the Feds already are is overly idealistic and will only lead to even more deaths. |
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(It like have black/white usa citizen working in weapon technology ( e.g. phantom plane) >>> when he go back to Africa/EU he give all his knowledge that country = no way USA will like that) Though Orb don't have time for that since they are busy rebuilding themselves >>> it was Feds who was angry at Orb letting their citizen give all of their weapon technology for ZAFT for free |
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2013-04-17, 03:39 | Link #6378 |
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Why did zaft developed GUNDAM?
Feds manufactured GUNDAM first. There was no technological tie-up from Feds to zaft. Nevertheless, I would like to know the circumstances where GUNDAM was developed. I think that it cannot usually be. To have the appearance of an enemy's ms may be aimed from an ally.
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2013-04-17, 03:45 | Link #6380 |
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What Shinn said my be true but i'm pretty sure Cagalli has heard that line before in the 2 year gap, orb would have had to say that same line. so why would she be flustered hearing it for the 100th time?
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