2006-10-17, 00:58 | Link #101 | |
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There are also plenty of h264 encodes on AnimeSuki that aren't marked as such, simply because there aren't any XviD versions to contrast them to. We only list the codec when it is necessary to explain why there are two different versions of the same episode. For example, everything that Arienai has released since Pretty Cure has been high quality 140MB h264 encodes.
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2006-10-17, 07:20 | Link #103 | |
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It is a all newbies effort in order to sub Simoun. I am a newbie as well and didn't know much. So, the x264 in earlier is not better than late episodes' xvid. The latest episodes are also VFR so, it is better animated. The quality is limited by the raw sources, codecs and size, but it is decided by encoder's ability as well. I tried to do my best but I need better skills. Note that most efforts are spent in the TL/QC/edit process, we use different speech to give life and personalities, and it takes many drafts until it's done. I hope that the so-so encode quality won't stop you from watching Simoun. Last edited by ffdshow; 2006-10-17 at 09:20. Reason: didn't answer why those episodes' xvid is smaller |
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2006-10-17, 09:28 | Link #104 |
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I not opposed to h.264 encodes, but I feel that they should still be listed as h.264 encodes even when that’s the only encoding method being used by any particular fan-sub group! Not designating them as such, or simply listing them as “HQ” tends to confuse me and I’m sure others as well. Previously HQ encodes simply meant that a higher resolution was being used instead of a standard resolution. For example HD 16:9 vs. SD 4:3.
I am currently re-encoding several h.264 files into a more user friendly format. By user friendly I mean; Not because I can’t watch them, but because I like to have files that will play back on devices other that just my computer. Since this topic is about the size of h.264 encodes, I’d like to point out that the size of my re-encodes tend to be smaller than or equal to the h.264 encodes that I have been re-encoding and I haven’t noticed any significant drop in video or audio quality. This may be due in part to re-encoding them using the same parameters and to the setup I use for playback but none the less it works for me. In any case what harm does it do to label an h.264 encode as an h.264 release? |
2006-10-17, 10:55 | Link #107 |
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That's pretty much what I was trying to say. I wouldn't expect AnimeSuki or any other torrent lister to go through each and every torrent just to label them as h.264 or not. But I think that it would take little effort for the creator of said torrent to do so.
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2006-10-17, 12:30 | Link #109 |
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smaller filesize = lower quality regardless of the codec.
larger filesize (up to the original raw size) = probably higher quality regardless of the codec. any pc that can play h264 should have the file storage space to store larger files. Filesizes should be getting larger, not smaller. $100 will buy you a 400 GB HDD nowadays. DVD's cost about $0.10 per disc. DVD burners cost $30. Enough with the small filesizes (anything under 200 MB, especially anything under 170 MB) |
2006-10-17, 13:26 | Link #110 |
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Remember most encoders usually blurr like hell, so if your arent watching "it" in fullscreen or on some 90" screen that you wouldent really notice. Unless your some HD freak like me.
(the typical XviD versions) Keeping XviD and the h.264 version at the same file sizes without writing any info on the file, or for those which dosent really know how or were to view the "file info", wouldent really notice any difference. I'm talking about the typical fanboy now, the s.k commoners -.-. So for those fansubers out there if really wanna save more time on encodes, then dont deal with h.264 unless you really want too. People are still satisfied with XviD, so keep it like that. And saving a tiny 20-30mb wont help you that much |
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2006-10-17, 14:25 | Link #112 | ||
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Ummm.... no? Most encoders make fun of the encoders who blur like hell.
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2006-10-17, 14:48 | Link #113 | |
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If you really dont care about quality that much, then why not stay with low low-lq XviD versions than h.264's? And if you really want that high bs quality, then why not buy real (not counting fansubs(tv caps) dvd's? or keeping em, say an 26ep long serie on 2 singel or 1 dual dvd? But if it's about money, than i can understand you. Of course you can also do what you're doing atm. |
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2006-10-17, 16:52 | Link #116 |
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Filesize (well, bitrate) does affect quality to a point. Codec also matters, as does the compressability of that specific source, etc... Filesize is not a valid comparison, like Group A's Show X at 175MB looks better than Group B's Show Y at 140MB due to the 35MB difference, etc.
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So depending on the source, alot can make difference. Last edited by Shounen; 2006-10-17 at 17:16. |
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2006-10-17, 17:16 | Link #118 | |
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I think you are the one to be congratulated.
If your failings were to be true, then why don't we see any fansubs at 20MB or under? Higher video bitrate(filesize) allows for higher video quality. Why is this difficult to understand? Quote:
But then this topic deals with why some groups make filesize big when they can make them small instead. At this point, a comparison in filesize isn't pointless. With same codecs, same encoders/settings/filters, same raws, it should be obvious which one has the advantage, a 100 MB encode or a 200 MB encode. |
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2006-10-17, 17:26 | Link #119 | |
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So why make it smaller when we can keep at the same size, but with even better quailty. Than making the file smaller and having the same quaility as the XviD version. offtopic: So why dont they embeed the subs too, in their h.264 releases -.- "And some do, some dont" |
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2006-10-17, 17:37 | Link #120 | |
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Though there could be a second reason. I tried to get a group of mine to convert to MKV only for it's release format. I was quickly shot down by the founder cause she wouldn't be able to directly burn it for her DVD player if it was in MKV only.
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