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Dengar · 2024-04-22, 02:25

If D is still alive somehow that would be such a cop out.

Tenzen12 · 2024-04-22, 04:28

There are some ways (for one, do we even know if Keepers had time to retrieve actual divine weapon for that battle?) and we still didn't get to see few things opening heavily implies about D role in story.

Mad Pierrot · 2024-04-22, 06:39

Two decapitations in a single episode? This is turning into Chainsaw Man

Dengar · 2024-04-23, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

There are some ways (for one, do we even know if Keepers had time to retrieve actual divine weapon for that battle?) and we still didn't get to see few things opening heavily implies about D role in story.

How do you know that was D?

Frontier · 2024-04-23, 09:55

I feel like D is too present in the OP (and the version of Sakurama that he plays) to not have survived, especially the way he managed to fool Red.

Also Blue's Finisher seemed different from how Red finished off F.

grecefar · 2024-04-23, 10:25

if D could fool them once, he can fool them twice.

Tenzen12 · 2024-04-23, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Dengar

How do you know that was D?

Is there any other foot soldier this handsome? (Also there was no other duster with similiar build to have any personal screen time).

Dengar · 2024-04-23, 15:58

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Originally Posted by grecefar

if D could fool them once, he can fool them twice.

It would be a cop-out writing wise. They had that whole spiel that "someone else will just take his place". What is the point of that if he's just gonna come back next episode?

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Is there any other foot soldier this handsome? (Also there was no other duster with similiar build to have any personal screen time).

Idk they all look the same to me. Other than F who is just a little bigger.

FYI I don't know for sure that he's dead for good. I'm just saying the death scene is meaningless if he turns out to be just fine next episode.

Frontier · 2024-04-23, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Dengar

It would be a cop-out writing wise. They had that whole spiel that "someone else will just take his place". What is the point of that if he's just gonna come back next episode?

Idk they all look the same to me. Other than F who is just a little bigger.

FYI I don't know for sure that he's dead for good. I'm just saying the death scene is meaningless if he turns out to be just fine next episode.

Well, if he pulled one over on Red it would feel appropriate to pull one over on the audience in my opinion.

Thor's Hammer · 2024-04-23, 20:45

I doubt Fighter D is dead. The blue tint was all over D's main body after being struck by Blue Keeper's Divine Artifact, but that tint was absent from his arm that was disguised as Red's Divine Artifact. That likely shows that your entire body must be hit by the Divine Artifact for a monster to permanently die. I'd bet on Fighter D fooling even Suzukiri considering she thought he died.

Dengar · 2024-04-24, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Frontier

Well, if he pulled one over on Red it would feel appropriate to pull one over on the audience in my opinion.

The audience does not exist. There is no fourth wall. There is nobody for him to fool.

Like what is it with people and not understanding that meta storytelling is immersion breaking?

Tenzen12 · 2024-04-24, 08:38

Because it's not necessarily true. Duh

Dengar · 2024-04-24, 09:45

Ok ok I might have deserved that through the way I phrased all this.

But I really don't get it. If he isn't going to die, why is he saying "Welp, it was a good life" to no one in particular?

Tenzen12 · 2024-04-24, 14:17

That's true. We can probably rule out D intentionally faking his death, but again we don't i it was real or fake divine weapon and most likely neither does he.

Frontier · 2024-04-24, 17:05

Maybe Blue was deliberately not trying to kill him

.

grecefar · 2024-04-24, 17:57

or he was saved by someone, most likely that monster at the end.

Thor's Hammer · 2024-04-24, 21:08

I don't see why people are convinced Fighter D died when we literally saw that his arm was disguised as Red's Divine Artifact, and there was no blue tint on it like with D's main body, which was struck by Blue's Divine Artifact.

We also saw D's arm disguised as Red's Divine Artifact crumble and disperse into the wind, which suggests that he was regenerating from that arm elsewhere. I don't believe Fighter D was saved by anyone other than himself, albeit unintentionally.

Dengar · Today, 07:37

The problem isn't so much that he survived when he "should have died", but rather, that the script makes no sense. Somebody trying desperately to survive would not say those things.

Frontier · Today, 08:38

So the Dragon Keepers have a "Sacred Banquet" that they infrequently attend that brings them all together along with their "Buddies." Blue's got a loli, Green's got a blonde delinquent, Pink has a hulking mustachioed man VOICED BY FUMIHIKO TACHIKI, and of course Suzukiri shows up for Yellow. And she immediately pays little to no respect to the group and makes it sound like Blue is sleeping with his Buddy! That's our Suzukiri. Though even she can't talk back when Red makes her apologize, much as she hated it

.

I love how Green is talking about eating food when he's the only member whose mouth we don't see and how Blue gets headbutted by his Buddy Aizome and gets scolded by her

.

So Red Keeper actually admits he lost his Divine Artifact, he's even wearing a stunt costume, but that's just what his Buddy Himura was after in leaking the location of the Artifact...all so he could take over as Red Keeper. But Sosei isn't about to let anyone steal his job, not when he's still strong enough to murder Himura right there. Jeez, these Keepers are terrible

.

BUT FIGHTER D YET LIVES!!! Only having a leaking wound where Blue's Divine Artifact hit him, but it seems like Hibiki is actually working with Suzukiri enough to be there to try to apply first aid and help...and failing that basically lead D on into not only finding a way to heal himself but also give out his name. Hibiki is definitely not as naive and simple-minded as he looks

.

Why is Hibiki so interested in fairness or believing in both sides? As a boy he was torn between his familys' rigid sense of justice (that let a cat get eaten by crows and deplored the behavior of the Dragon Keepers) and his own idolization of the Dragon Keepers' fighting to protect humanity. But then his parents got involved in a cult that saw a "God" (voiced by Hochu Otsuka) come forth...and killed everyone. Hibiki was only saved because his sister slapped some sense into him and tried to save him, but how did he survive this encounter with the God when he tried to stand up to it to save her

?

Oh hey, his mom is voiced by Ami Koshimizu! That's like her 4th or 5th role this season! And she was a certified MILF! And his sister was pretty cute too...wait, that sounds like MAO. And she had a pink sweater when she was jogging...wait, his sister couldn't be

!?

Hekiru (Kensho Ono?)! A nervous mess but also kind of psycho! It probably would have been nice to know ahead of time that Junior members get copy Divine Artifacts that can also kill Fighters, especially when D's body still isn't at 100%, but D still has his crafty mind and ability to trick people going for him

.

Dang, I did not expect to see Hibiki commit to this by cutting off his own hand so they can pull a complete switcheroo. And D respects that by challenging him respectfully as a rival. Now Hibiki is a Fighter and D is now Hibiki, having nearly perfected his Hibiki act and completely infiltrated the Dragon Keepers! Now the story has really begun

.

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	There are some ways (for one, do we even know if Keepers had time to retrieve actual divine weapon for that battle?) and we still didn't get to see few things opening heavily implies about D role in story. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I feel like D is too present in the OP (and the version of Sakurama that he plays) to not have survived, especially the way he managed to fool Red. Also Blue's Finisher seemed different from how Red finished off F. __________________

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Because it's not necessarily true. Duh __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	if D could fool them once, he can fool them twice.

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Thor's Hammer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012	I doubt Fighter D is dead. The blue tint was all over D's main body after being struck by Blue Keeper's Divine Artifact, but that tint was absent from his arm that was disguised as Red's Divine Artifact. That likely shows that your entire body must be hit by the Divine Artifact for a monster to permanently die. I'd bet on Fighter D fooling even Suzukiri considering she thought he died.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Ok ok I might have deserved that through the way I phrased all this. But I really don't get it. If he isn't going to die, why is he saying "Welp, it was a good life" to no one in particular?

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	That's true. We can probably rule out D intentionally faking his death, but again we don't i it was real or fake divine weapon and most likely neither does he. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	Maybe Blue was deliberately not trying to kill him . __________________

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grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	or he was saved by someone, most likely that monster at the end.

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Thor's Hammer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012	I don't see why people are convinced Fighter D died when we literally saw that his arm was disguised as Red's Divine Artifact, and there was no blue tint on it like with D's main body, which was struck by Blue's Divine Artifact. We also saw D's arm disguised as Red's Divine Artifact crumble and disperse into the wind, which suggests that he was regenerating from that arm elsewhere. I don't believe Fighter D was saved by anyone other than himself, albeit unintentionally.

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	The problem isn't so much that he survived when he "should have died", but rather, that the script makes no sense. Somebody trying desperately to survive would not say those things.

Today, 08:38	Link #79
Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	So the Dragon Keepers have a "Sacred Banquet" that they infrequently attend that brings them all together along with their "Buddies." Blue's got a loli, Green's got a blonde delinquent, Pink has a hulking mustachioed man VOICED BY FUMIHIKO TACHIKI, and of course Suzukiri shows up for Yellow. And she immediately pays little to no respect to the group and makes it sound like Blue is sleeping with his Buddy! That's our Suzukiri. Though even she can't talk back when Red makes her apologize, much as she hated it . I love how Green is talking about eating food when he's the only member whose mouth we don't see and how Blue gets headbutted by his Buddy Aizome and gets scolded by her . So Red Keeper actually admits he lost his Divine Artifact, he's even wearing a stunt costume, but that's just what his Buddy Himura was after in leaking the location of the Artifact...all so he could take over as Red Keeper. But Sosei isn't about to let anyone steal his job, not when he's still strong enough to murder Himura right there. Jeez, these Keepers are terrible . BUT FIGHTER D YET LIVES!!! Only having a leaking wound where Blue's Divine Artifact hit him, but it seems like Hibiki is actually working with Suzukiri enough to be there to try to apply first aid and help...and failing that basically lead D on into not only finding a way to heal himself but also give out his name. Hibiki is definitely not as naive and simple-minded as he looks . Why is Hibiki so interested in fairness or believing in both sides? As a boy he was torn between his familys' rigid sense of justice (that let a cat get eaten by crows and deplored the behavior of the Dragon Keepers) and his own idolization of the Dragon Keepers' fighting to protect humanity. But then his parents got involved in a cult that saw a "God" (voiced by Hochu Otsuka) come forth...and killed everyone. Hibiki was only saved because his sister slapped some sense into him and tried to save him, but how did he survive this encounter with the God when he tried to stand up to it to save her ? Oh hey, his mom is voiced by Ami Koshimizu! That's like her 4th or 5th role this season! And she was a certified MILF! And his sister was pretty cute too...wait, that sounds like MAO. And she had a pink sweater when she was jogging...wait, his sister couldn't be !? Hekiru (Kensho Ono?)! A nervous mess but also kind of psycho! It probably would have been nice to know ahead of time that Junior members get copy Divine Artifacts that can also kill Fighters, especially when D's body still isn't at 100%, but D still has his crafty mind and ability to trick people going for him . Dang, I did not expect to see Hibiki commit to this by cutting off his own hand so they can pull a complete switcheroo. And D respects that by challenging him respectfully as a rival. Now Hibiki is a Fighter and D is now Hibiki, having nearly perfected his Hibiki act and completely infiltrated the Dragon Keepers! Now the story has really begun . __________________