2012-09-15, 09:22 | Link #1221 |
そんなやさしくしないで。。。
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Clingy girlfriend Chisato activate!
Now with little brother issues! I no longer see this as a possible romance anime anymore. There's too much shit going on for it to finish satisfactorily with a romance. An implied one would work though. |
2012-09-15, 09:30 | Link #1222 | |
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This anime also suffers from a serious lack of time being only 1 cour and the fact that they are trying to squeeze so much in, if this were 2 cour or if the chocolate theme had come into play a few episodes earlier, they could have made Chisato/Oojima work. B
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2012-09-15, 10:07 | Link #1223 | |
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A lot of people have various trauma and psychological issues, and not all of them get psychiatric help or follow what we think are the "proper steps" to get resolution. A lot of these people are in relationships, and their partner helps them get over whatever problems they have. Is that difficult? Is that frustrating? Does that take time? Absolutely. But, if you love someone, you'll walk along side them through whatever they're going through, even if you have to establish and reinforce your barriers to help them. So, if they were to get into a relationship and all of a sudden all of Chisato's issues are swept under the rug like nothing happened? Okay, sure, bad writing. But that isn't the only option we have here in the anime. Let's at least wait to see what happens before we keep beating the straw man.
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2012-09-15, 10:20 | Link #1224 |
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Its not like this anime need to end with big happy ending- trauma disappeared completely and they are in love together, forether etc etc Yuuki not expect that she can be cured immediately.
For now only thing he wants from her is to look sincerely at him and to see him. Like i said there is already Yuuki real image in her heart- its just hidden deeply... Making this one move from her is enough for now. It would be just start for their relationship, there will be a lot good and bad things between them later and Chisato healing process would be long- but we not need to see more. We can use our imagination for this. It would be perfect if anime would end in this way.
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2012-09-15, 11:26 | Link #1225 | |
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I personally find reading the source material (especially if it's a VN) allows me to enjoy the show on a much deeper level. I know things that an anime adaption simply does not have enough time to transition into the show. In this case, Isara is treated like a back round character instead of the larger role she has in the game. I doubt the anime will get into her story so I'm glad that I already know it from playing the game, otherwise, it's possible (depending from show to show) I would've become frustrated with how the anime is treating my favorite character. However, BECAUSE I know the source material, I can overlook the decision to make her into a side character and enjoy the anime for what the directors decided focus on. |
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2012-09-15, 12:36 | Link #1228 |
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This is pretty common for eroge adaptations, though; they really exist more to get people to buy the game and related merchandise (since a one-cour anime is admittedly limited in what it can do at best of times due to time constraints). The PSP game release is coming at the end of this month, and sprite/fairy's next game is being released in November, so I think that's more what they're banking on.
(I almost wonder if the anime may sell more copies in North America than it does in Japan, partly because the game isn't really an option.)
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2012-09-15, 12:50 | Link #1229 | |
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The thing is,there's alot of plot elements that could easily build up into a sequel of what would happen if Oojima captures the presidency. I cannot see the fundamental issues behind the Oosawa incident being solved just by Oojima's election. Indeed, I'm getting a huge vibe from this anime that suggests that winning the election is JUST the beginning of Oojima's challenges. |
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2012-09-15, 12:54 | Link #1230 |
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Well, the show is licensed. We'll see if they decide to release discs, but I have a feeling that they will. I doubt the licensing fee for this show was such that it would make it cost-prohibitive to distribute even if it won't necessarily be a top-seller. Of course, time will tell...
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2012-09-15, 12:54 | Link #1231 | |
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2012-09-15, 13:16 | Link #1232 | |
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And you seriously need to fix your definition of "whack job", because Chisato sure as hell isn't one. |
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2012-09-15, 13:35 | Link #1233 | |
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2012-09-15, 14:04 | Link #1234 |
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Pretty much the reason why I feel the way I do. Now if we had 2 episodes that literally just focused on Chisato, then we could see better development. Problem is, we have a huge school scandal and possible attempted murder case to solve, and quite frankly, this problem is MUCH more important to solve than Yuuki's love life, so in reality, that probably leaves the relationship not even 2 episodes to develop, but 1/2 to just one episode, making the odds even worst.
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2012-09-15, 15:06 | Link #1235 |
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And the election. But it's quite possible there will be a rush job on how that ends. I don't know how others feel about this but I imo, dealing with Chisato's problem is much more important than portraying the conclusion of the election.
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2012-09-15, 15:18 | Link #1236 | |
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Here we have Chisato's trauma, then all of a sudden it sidetracks into Michiru's story and being a spy without even solving Chisato's story like it did with Satsuki. I have no idea how this is going to turn out, and I can't say that I mean it in a good way. |
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2012-09-15, 15:20 | Link #1237 |
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Which reminds me, there is this election going on. I understand that Chisato is having extreme personal issues, but she is not really thinking for Yuuki in this case. Instead of supporting him like he has been her, she is distracting him from what he needs to do.
Although there needs to be sympathy for what Chisato is going through, the other perspective is "what about Yuuki?" Things are very unfair for him to deal with all this right now, and the "first lady" is not doing her duty to help. Yuuki has been supportive and helpful for all these years, and when this important event is happening in his life, he is not receiving the same support in return. Instead, there is an additional problem that he needs to handle. Emotionally, we really don't know at this point what his real emotions are. Does he truly love Chisato romantically, or does he view her as a very dear sister-like friend? Is Satsuki someone that he enjoys being around and wants to develop a romantic relationship with? Or is she more of a crush and nothing more? For Yuuki, he has the Chocolate issues that need to be resolved before he can move on to romance with anyone. He can't abandon Chisato and go out with someone else before her issue is resolved, or else he will feel guilty again. At the same time, he can't go out with Chisato as long as she still obsesses over him in place of her brother. Yuuki is really in a bind right now.
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2012-09-15, 15:38 | Link #1238 | |
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That's why it could work as an anime. But like i have mentioned earlier, i don't like the execution of it so far. edit: i meant the structure of the elections, not the actual character developments in each route |
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2012-09-15, 17:09 | Link #1239 | |
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Is it so wrong to think that the idea of an unhealthy dependency on someone, actually replacing their existence with their brother, would not be a good base for a romantic relationship? My preference in this series is Satsuki, but if the anime had chosen to go for Isara or someone else I could have bought it. A decade old trauma where you can't even see a person for who they are themselves is going to be solved in the remaining 2 episodes or so? I just don't see it as feasible. It's not that they would NEVER be able to be together realistically, but not within such a short amount of time considering how deep the history goes here. It would take months, maybe even a year or two before I could see their relation as feasibly working out.
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2012-09-15, 20:47 | Link #1240 | |
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But I've said my piece on Chisato-Oojima. If this was a two cour anime, I'd be much more sympathetic to your view, but given how there's only 3 or so episodes left, and given that there's an awful lot of non-romance material that these episodes have to cover... Well, maybe the anime will put on a true tour de force of high-caliber writing and somehow make it all work, but I'm admittedly skeptical there. Putting aside the romance for a second, I really hope that the election plot is resolved well at least. I still have high hopes for that even if my hopes for the romance side of things has lessened as of late.
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