2013-05-15, 07:04 | Link #28323 | |
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Funny you mention that, on article actually did mention some sort of recording, but it was only vaguely mentioned in passing and I didn't see any mention of it anywhere else. The whole ramming this is weird but not impossible, it was four-to-one in favour of the fishermen.
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2013-05-15, 07:07 | Link #28324 |
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I'll just copypaste the relevant part in this new page since people don't read the previous one.
Seriously though, the Chief of PH CG should apologise, just to defuse the tension. And behind the scenes award the men for their actions. This is a grimy political situation in disputed waters that is best put to rest as soon as possible; nobody wants this to happen, but the men are doing their job and they are under-equipped to handle this kind of situation - no radar, rangefinders, automated warning devices and most importantly, watercannons; just a pair of binoculars and 2 heavy machineguns.
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2013-05-15, 07:13 | Link #28328 | |
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Though it is highly suggested that it is paid directly out of the pockets of whichever morons who assigned the budget to the PHCG; don't they have a fucking AWS mounted on each patrol craft? I know water cannons are expensive, so why don't they just mount a simple fire-fighting hose and pump system to the back of each PV?
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2013-05-15, 07:15 | Link #28329 | |
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I mean, the furtherest that the Taiwanese government went was threatening military exercises. Is that really a threat? Really, we all know both sides want to go back to normal ASAP. (The Philippines and Taiwan both have historically quite new governments. Sort of the effect of the Western Colonisation era severing ties of ancient history, combined with Taiwan being colonised twice by two separate Asian populations. I am sure Ancient peoples in Taiwan and the original population of the Philippines could have interacted, but no one cares about that politically these days.)
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2013-05-15, 07:18 | Link #28330 | |
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If they want cash as well, tell them to have a family member fish inside our territorial waters and get shot then we give them money.... |
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2013-05-15, 07:24 | Link #28331 | |
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Our Coast Guard is notoriously under-funded, the only way I see that happening is if we get some second-hand from US but so far it looks like they don't want any part in this issue.
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2013-05-15, 07:31 | Link #28332 |
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Taiwan's President Ma Ying-jeou Wednesday froze the hiring of Philippine workers to express "strong dissatisfaction" over Manila's handling of the killing of a Taiwanese fisherman, his spokeswoman said.
The real fault lies in the under-equipping of the PHCG, not "killers", "fishermen intruding sovereign waters", "inaccurate shooting", or whatever bullshit that can be brought to mind by either side. As much as the Philippines government need to offer a formal apology, Taiwan must also realise that the PH government does not have the money yet to equip their naval assets, be it CG or PN, to stave off low-intensity threats. Get the US into the negotiating table, then get them to give away or sell those AWS from their older CGCs. Those equipment are built to last for days at sea in humid and corrosive atmospheres.
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to be fair though, I doubt a VBIED is what they had in mind, unless they thought it's standard equipment on fishing boats they chase down
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In a marine environment where you can't set up permanent roadblocks without them floating away, shooting is still the best option when you don't have a really loud warning device or a watercannon. Quote:
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2013-05-15, 07:59 | Link #28337 |
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Our current administration is much more a circus than a government usually is.
Most of our current officials lack any sort of backbone or presence of mind. And the average voter is no better.
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