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Old 2013-09-11, 01:41   Link #781
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I picture Tomoko either becoming a shut in writer or a psychologist with an unconventional approach to therapy lol.
Or to be really pessimistic: dead by suicide.
I called it earlier!
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Old 2013-09-11, 03:48   Link #782
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Do you mean that the act of creating clubs itself is being unrealistic or do you refer to unrealistic clubs being created? If you meant the former:
I meant the latter. I can't see the schools supporting the existence of pointless clubs like the "SOS Brigade" or the "Going home club" whose only purpose is that of giving a background for the stereotypical harem/moe anime/light novel. In fact, in a different genre of manga and anime, the sports one, the school being about to shut down a perfectly legitimate club just because it's not achieving good enough results or it has not enough members is a common (if opposite) plot device.

I tend to think that truth probably lies in the middle. In "Hikaru no Go" the main character went to a very average school, Haze, which had an amateurish go club with few members and which gathered in the unused science lab in the afternoon thanks to the kindness of a teacher. Believable enough, for an unsuccessful club which still had a reasonable "theme". That manga felt quite realistic (well, ghosts aside), so I guess it's probably something close enough to the truth.
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Old 2013-09-11, 05:08   Link #783
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The delusion/dream club situation she had when it turned out she was at home all along, wasn't that actually just the SOS Brigade club room? It looks almost exact I think but I'm not entirely sure.

Either way I often hate/love her character for many different reasons and today was one of the love and feel sorry for her episodes, she's just so socially inept (like I kinda am) that any chance she ever has of making friends she blows by not saying anything or looking weird while thinking of what to say (I thankfully never had this problem though haha).
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Old 2013-09-11, 05:21   Link #784
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The delusion/dream club situation she had when it turned out she was at home all along, wasn't that actually just the SOS Brigade club room? It looks almost exact I think but I'm not entirely sure.
My girlfriend told me the exact same thing as we were watching the episode. Honestly, I don't remember "Haruhi Suzumiya" well enough to confirm, but it surely felt similar. I guess most of these rooms will look pretty much the same anyway.
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Old 2013-09-11, 05:58   Link #785
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Here's a comparison pic I made. Tomoko has watched Haruhi too much, thinks she could form a similar club.

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Old 2013-09-11, 06:41   Link #786
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Old 2013-09-11, 06:54   Link #787
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Here's a comparison pic I made. Tomoko has watched Haruhi too much, thinks she could form a similar club.

LOOOOL .

There definitely is more than one comparison to be made there. Kudos for the very very subtle reference, Watamote. Well done.
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Old 2013-09-11, 07:16   Link #788
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and dat KAZEHAYA reference
(watch kimi ni todoke)
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Old 2013-09-11, 09:20   Link #789
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even though her application got rejected which is obvious ,i think it's good that atleast she mustered up the courage to submit her thoughts of a club to the student council now matter how stupid, i guess it could be tiny progress in her.
but then again it mostly worked the other way and the rejection of her application depressed and demotivated her even further.
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Old 2013-09-11, 11:49   Link #790
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The delusion/dream club situation she had when it turned out she was at home all along, wasn't that actually just the SOS Brigade club room? It looks almost exact I think but I'm not entirely sure.
It's more than just the club room:



(I'm sure there are scenes with the whole SOS Brigade walking along that road, but I don't know which episode they're in.)
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Old 2013-09-11, 22:07   Link #791
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you know what the irony is? No one really even makes fun of her! She's so shy and timid that you'd think people constantly bullied her all the time, but her classmates treat her fine.

She brings on the scorn herself.
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Old 2013-09-12, 00:42   Link #792
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and dat KAZEHAYA reference
(watch kimi ni todoke)
Yep, caught that as well.

This is actually kind of hurting me. I'm rooting for her so hard, and it seems she's just slipping further into depression (she actually says she's depressed), which, in turn, makes me feel sad and frustrated for her. I really hope something good happens for her by the end of the series.

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Old 2013-09-12, 04:23   Link #793
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Yep, caught that as well.

This is actually kind of hurting me. I'm rooting for her so hard, and it seems she's just slipping further into depression (she actually says she's depressed), which, in turn, makes me feel sad and frustrated for her. I really hope something good happens for her by the end of the series.

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Yeah, honestly... this is WAY more depressing than Attack on Titan will ever manage to be, even if it killed off half its cast (wait, it usually actually does on a regular basis). Lots of people dying in gruesome ways aren't nearly as emotionally powerful to me as a single, shy, little girl fighting with herself in a corner of her mind.
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Old 2013-09-12, 04:43   Link #794
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Fuck this anime is depressing.

In episode 9 where she finds out her new seat is in the middle of the class that was her chance to breakout and start talking to more people! But no she doesn't see it that way.

And I thought that delusion/dream club situation was real for a second.

I still think the sadest is the previous episode where she was crying while watching the stars and there is that writing on the screen showing her thoughts saying "I read in some book that pain and sadness are the spice of life that makes it enjoyable"

"All I get is spice!!"
"I cant make any thing but curry with this!"

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Old 2013-09-13, 08:25   Link #795
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In Tomoko's adult life, I imagine her getting a mandane office lady job, and stay the same, but when she reaches 28-30, she meets a guy that finally helps her open up. Like a josei manga or something..
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She's clearly going to become a reclusive light novel author who writes slice-of-life stories about the high school life she wishes she'd had.
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I picture Tomoko either becoming a shut in writer or a psychologist with an unconventional approach to therapy lol.
Or to be really pessimistic: dead by suicide.
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Or a mangaka who details her high-school misery in grim detail.
As per Tomoko's future, as someone, lets just say, had a bad high school experience, as much as people seem to want to suggest her experiences will affect her entire life, Tomoko might well recover from this. If she manages to get into university in particular, she'll see that the high school social structure is really just a stupid phase with no pertinence to your later life. Perhaps join an anime club, make some friends etc. Eventually, no doubt she would find a date, even if, as HandofFate suggested, it's around the time she turns 30.

That said, she needs to get out of her shell a bit and it would also help if she had some goal for her future beyond being popular...
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Old 2013-09-13, 10:17   Link #796
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Tomoko is quite deep in the pit of despair right now, but I agree that all hope is not lost for her just yet. If she can become a bit more social around strangers, she can make it. She doesn't haver to become like Yuu-chan personality-wise, but being able to make a proper conversation with people other than her family would be something she should aim for. However, I'm not sure this is something she can do on her own.
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Old 2013-09-14, 17:11   Link #797
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I know the feeling of not having your favorite desk in class anymore. I also know the feeling of having your chair taken away and not wanting to ask the other person for it back.

It's great she got to experience some happiness in that area of her's. She could have tried the door or sat on the ground though.

Her classmates all treat her fine, but she struggle herself. Maybe college will help, but that's 2 years away.
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Old 2013-09-14, 18:20   Link #798
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I really thought for her desilusion and yes everyone is nice to her but she is too shy made I understand tomoko me too I very Shy
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Old 2013-09-14, 18:53   Link #799
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It's called Ochonan and it's from the manga Fuan no Tane Plus. Don't read it before going to bed if you want to get any sleep at all.

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Ochonan-san オチョナンさん

Reference comes from Nakayama Masaaki's horror manga Fu-an no Tane (serialized on Shonen Champion)
Thanks for the replies, i've been checking that manga and it's incredible how the author makes it so creepy writing such short stories.

I can see why Tomoko thought that would be effective...but i guess it was too much.
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Old 2013-09-16, 13:27   Link #800
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