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That Other Ninja · 2007-07-20, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

guess its time we all have to accept that sasuke is the 2nd coming of christ. the man can do no wrong.

Its posts like that that feeds all the groupies. Control yourself man!@

Nintendo · 2007-07-20, 23:01

lol i like to fuel the fire of the sasuke lovers. im a sasuke fan, well im more of a naruto manga fan as a whole.

time to face facts, the man can do everything and anything under the sun. sasuke can look at the sun and make it turn black with his mighty genjitsu.

That Other Ninja · 2007-07-20, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

lol i like to fuel the fire of the sasuke lovers. im a sasuke fan, well im more of a naruto manga fan as a whole.

time to face facts, the man can do everything and anything under the sun. sasuke can look at the sun and make it turn black with his mighty genjitsu.

Had I a club to flog you with...

Nintendo · 2007-07-20, 23:04

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Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

Had I a club to flog you with...

lol

thats next on the list....turn the sun black so he can escape under the night.

Luminion Lancer · 2007-07-20, 23:21

-Now, now children control your primal urge to slaughter one another senseless

. But let's face reality of the situation, Kishimoto is a prick. This latest chapter was possibly the worst thing that could have happened. If there's a moral to the story now it is that people simply can't accomplish what they desire unless they are born with the means to do so. Why? Because no matter how much you try there's always someone better than you in every way, shape and form. So in other words, Naruto is going to die very, very soon. Pein is now after him and the little fellow has absolutely no chance of survival. Sigh, and he had such noble dreams to boot. Oh well, the good one's always die young. R.I.P Naruto, you gave it your best. Too bad you don't have the Sharingan otherwise you would have succeeded.

rpgkiller999 · 2007-07-20, 23:28

Just watched this chapter, looks like AF is not dead and IS the guy behind the shadow pulling the strings. He talked like he was watching the whole Sasuke fight and from what we know only D and AF from atatsuki was there. This makes it very interesting because the rest of Akatsuki members appearntly are just puppets.

From the tone of this shadow figure he's going to arrange a fight between Sasuke and Itachi, and Sasuke will kill his brother without knowing he's being used. I have a feeling their bloodline has something to do with their plan, and Naruto's bloodline may have some kind of connection with Sasuke's.

Lastly, if Naruto and the Akatsuki 'leader' have relations I for one doesn't want Naruto to have that Whirl eyes when his bloodline awaken.

Well that's all the crazy theories I came up with, feel free to call me lunatic. =P

That Other Ninja · 2007-07-20, 23:29

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Originally Posted by rpgkiller999

Just watched this chapter, looks like AF is not dead and IS the guy behind the shadow pulling the strings. He talked like he was watching the whole Sasuke fight and from what we know only D and AF from atatsuki was there. This makes it very interesting because the rest of Akatsuki members appearntly are just puppets.

From the tone of this shadow figure he's going to arrange a fight between Sasuke and Itachi, without knowing he's being used. I have a feeling their bloodline has something to do with their plan, and Naruto's bloodline may have some kind of connection with Sasuke's.

Well that's all the crazy theories I came up with, feel free to call me lunatic. =P

Not necessarily Naruto's bloodline but just the fact that he contains Kyuubi.

rpgkiller999 · 2007-07-20, 23:49

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Not necessarily Naruto's bloodline but just the fact that he contains Kyuubi.

Sorry, I didn't say it clearly in my post. That was base on the crazy assumption that Naruto and that akatsuki member have blood relation, since there are rumor that they almost look the same.

That Other Ninja · 2007-07-20, 23:55

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Originally Posted by rpgkiller999

Sorry, I didn't say it clearly in my post. That was base on the crazy assumption that Naruto and that akatsuki member have blood relation, since there are rumor that they almost look the same.

They do look almost the same.

Nintendo · 2007-07-20, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto

-Now, now children control your primal urge to slaughter one another senseless

. But let's face reality of the situation, Kishimoto is a prick. This latest chapter was possibly the worst thing that could have happened. If there's a moral to the story now it is that people simply can't accomplish what they desire unless they are born with the means to do so. Why? Because no matter how much you try there's always someone better than you in every way, shape and form. So in other words, Naruto is going to die very, very soon. Pein is now after him and the little fellow has absolutely no chance of survival. Sigh, and he had such noble dreams to boot. Oh well, the good one's always die young. R.I.P Naruto, you gave it your best. Too bad you don't have the Sharingan otherwise you would have succeeded.

i find that"unless your born with the means" funny.

wasnt it naruto that had that gave that long speech to nenji about fate and destiny? did that go out the window with this chapter?

Luminion Lancer · 2007-07-21, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

i find that"unless your born with the means" funny.

wasnt it naruto that had that gave that long speech to nenji about fate and destiny? did that go out the window with this chapter?

-Are you kidding? It went out the window the moment the Time-skip was introduced. The whole idea of working hard to achieve the common good has long since disappeared. Now it's just about the people's own little personal agendas. The same goes with the idea that hard work can make up for absence of talent/lineage. Oh well, like I said, Naruto will be knocking on Death's door soon enough once Pein gets a hold of him....

tramadrama · 2007-07-21, 01:28

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Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

So the individual we have been referring to as the AL is still the leader of the organization Akatsuki. The shadowy figure who tells Pain or Pein to capture Naruto refers to him as such.

It would seem Akatsuki is conspiring with an outside party.

Perhaps this "space jutsu" is a means for Sasuke to enter the dimension where summoned creatures belong...

I picked up on the outside party thing, too; but I wasn't sure. After reading the first translation and then another, I"m confused. Does the unknown guy refer to Naruto as "Naruto" or as a "jinchuuriki?"

ChojinLocke · 2007-07-21, 01:35

Seriously how can the translations be so wrong sometimes? If you know it in Japanese just translate it in English!! English is much simpler than Japanese !! geez..

Kazekage_Gaara · 2007-07-21, 01:41

Dang everyone's so caught up in this speculation about Naruto and the supposed AL. I was hoping SOMEONE would mention how Itachi's reaction was in the chapter. When Zetsu mentioned that Sasuke was killed as well, Itachi looked pretty damn upset about it in one panel. Nearly sad to me. Plus after the AL leaves a panel shows him standing alone quietly. Now you can't say that's either a teaser or a bit of foreshadowing.

DeDe · 2007-07-21, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto

Now it's just about the people's own little personal agendas.

Speaking of which, I would have loved if Tsunade just once told Naruto to shut up about Sasuke this or Sasuke that. That he is too important to the village and needs to put Konoha ahead of his own interests if he wants to be a true ninja. That he shouldn't be allowed to go on every mission he pleases. You know, where he could get captured by the S-ranked criminals that are after him.

I haven't been pleased with the way Tsunade has acted in Part 2. Yeah, Kishimoto has made Naruto look weak compared Sasuke, but on the other hand, it's almost like Naruto is running Konoha now instead of the Hokage.

Sinaura · 2007-07-21, 04:01

"I'm almost out of chakra, but let me summon this giant-ass snake to take the blow for me..."

That's like saying "I can barely walk, but let me run the New York Marathon."

Consistency is all I ask for.

Oh, and YAY KISHI! You offed one of the baddest summons (Manda of course) in less than a page's worth! AWESOME!

Why doesn't Kishi just make Naruto wake up and say it was all a dream, just to end the story?

saimon-kun · 2007-07-21, 04:07

Don't get me wrong, this was the most messed up chapter I've ever seen...but I think people need to be a bit more patient when damning the whole series. I think revealing the Leader and 9th member was strange, Tobi couldn't really be dead, and summoning Manda confused me with the 'flying' and 'space' jutsu...BUT!...to me, this chapter has a similar feel as when Sasuke beat Orochimaru and went to free Suigetsu. It had that wtf? feeling, and then a few weeks later, Hebi formed, and everything seemed to work out.
This chapter is sticking it to people who think they can predict storylines...like...everyone in this and every other forum. If I were writing a manga, and people scrutinized every decision I made with complaints abot plot holes and overpowered characters, then I would probably want to throw some curve balls as well. This chapter feels REALLY WEIRD, but in a month, it will all settle out.

Zarifus · 2007-07-21, 04:37

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Originally Posted by 0TaKu0

Of course the summons have their own dimension and "home". However, Sabaku Kyu and my self are debating the fact that if Sasuke really used a "Flying Jutsu" (Time-space displacement) or did he merely just get inside Manda and un-summon him, causing Manda to go back to the summoning dimension with Sasuke inside him. I'm arguing that, its not possible for that to happen because of how the summon “poofs” away, which would most likely causes anything on top or inside it to fall through like falling through air.

Also there might be restrictions against such things, because if this was possible and people or things could go back to the summoning dimension simply by being inside the summoned animal, I think it would have been done a while ago, by other people who are able to summon like the Sannin, like Orochimaru. Also the fact that Suigetsu and Karin clearly mentions it as a Jutsu, and a calls it "Flying" (which Sabaku Kyu is arguing could be a translation mistake). I doubt it.

Well, Gamabunta does bring a sword with him, and he takes it when he leaves. And all the frogs have their little jacket, while some even have armor (Jiraiya summoned it once).

It might've been possible all along, but from what we've seen so far, everyone has thier own type of summon. (with a few exceptions like Naruto/Jiraiya and Sasuke/Oro) Which means you'd have to leave someone a scroll and a bottle of your blood, or you'd never come back.

MysticNinjaJay · 2007-07-21, 04:51

This was an excellent way to end the battle with Deidara.

Another Akatsuki member down and new plot devices hatched.

It appears as though the Konoha teams are going to reach Sasuke before they do Itachi.

Sasuke's pimping of the Sharingan (hypnotizing Manda?!

) was not just for show, there is a mysterious figure, lurking in the shadows, giving orders to the Leader with an interest in sasuke's progress.

Did he refer to Sasuke as "the machine"? It would appear as though Sasuke is a pawn in this enigmatic character's plan, as is Akatsuki itself perhaps.

I wonder what motive he has for wanting Sasuke to surpass Itachi.

Hopefully Tobi is still alive or that was a complete waste of a character.

Despite his demi-god status of late it was nice to see Sasuke beng humble by admitting that Orochimaru was in a weakned state when he beat him as Deidara gave him a good thrashing reminding everyone that Sasuke is far from invincible.

He may be crafty with that Sharingan, but that victory did not come easily.

It's nice to see that the final other member is a woman. She was present at the meeting with Akatsuki and his superior so she must be in on the scheme they are planning behind closed doors.

Lunarskylar · 2007-07-21, 05:11

for everyone wondering how naruto is possibly going to surpass sasu-god, i sees some turbo training with his KB, i read a fake-spoiler a while back where it had naruto having all his clones training with the rookie 9 at teh same time, even sasu-god can't beat that speed

also, i have a theory on why sasuke is as strong as he is,

when he went to go train with oro, oro revealed something to him that he never would have expected to be tru; he knew he had hundreds of drooling fanboys and girl (with kishi being the pres of the sas-fanclub) but he DIDN'T know that there was an equally as powerfully sasugay club, dedicated to his death

the only to protect himself from us, was to get insanely, annoyingly, inconsistently kishimoto-you-fucked-up-but-what-else-is-new-ly strong

i mean that whole snake-hole-no-jutsu does seem like a freakin convenient way to escape from a mob of sas-haters, but what do i know anyways?

does that mean we're to blame for this monster that is sasuke and his sharigan?

2007-07-20, 23:01	Link #302
Nintendo start thinkin bout clones Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Age: 40	lol i like to fuel the fire of the sasuke lovers. im a sasuke fan, well im more of a naruto manga fan as a whole. time to face facts, the man can do everything and anything under the sun. sasuke can look at the sun and make it turn black with his mighty genjitsu. __________________

2007-07-20, 23:21	Link #305
Luminion Lancer Time-diver Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Location is all relative.	... -Now, now children control your primal urge to slaughter one another senseless . But let's face reality of the situation, Kishimoto is a prick. This latest chapter was possibly the worst thing that could have happened. If there's a moral to the story now it is that people simply can't accomplish what they desire unless they are born with the means to do so. Why? Because no matter how much you try there's always someone better than you in every way, shape and form. So in other words, Naruto is going to die very, very soon. Pein is now after him and the little fellow has absolutely no chance of survival. Sigh, and he had such noble dreams to boot. Oh well, the good one's always die young. R.I.P Naruto, you gave it your best. Too bad you don't have the Sharingan otherwise you would have succeeded. __________________ -When all else fails, ram them with a force of an 18-wheeler.

2007-07-21, 01:41	Link #314
Kazekage_Gaara Kage of Sunagakure Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 35	Dang everyone's so caught up in this speculation about Naruto and the supposed AL. I was hoping SOMEONE would mention how Itachi's reaction was in the chapter. When Zetsu mentioned that Sasuke was killed as well, Itachi looked pretty damn upset about it in one panel. Nearly sad to me. Plus after the AL leaves a panel shows him standing alone quietly. Now you can't say that's either a teaser or a bit of foreshadowing. __________________ "Sometimes you're so focused on your enemies, that you forget to watch your friends."

2007-07-21, 04:07	Link #317
saimon-kun Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	363? wtf? Don't get me wrong, this was the most messed up chapter I've ever seen...but I think people need to be a bit more patient when damning the whole series. I think revealing the Leader and 9th member was strange, Tobi couldn't really be dead, and summoning Manda confused me with the 'flying' and 'space' jutsu...BUT!...to me, this chapter has a similar feel as when Sasuke beat Orochimaru and went to free Suigetsu. It had that wtf? feeling, and then a few weeks later, Hebi formed, and everything seemed to work out. This chapter is sticking it to people who think they can predict storylines...like...everyone in this and every other forum. If I were writing a manga, and people scrutinized every decision I made with complaints abot plot holes and overpowered characters, then I would probably want to throw some curve balls as well. This chapter feels REALLY WEIRD, but in a month, it will all settle out.

2007-07-21, 04:51	Link #319
MysticNinjaJay Ninja Emperor Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 38	This was an excellent way to end the battle with Deidara. Another Akatsuki member down and new plot devices hatched. It appears as though the Konoha teams are going to reach Sasuke before they do Itachi. Sasuke's pimping of the Sharingan (hypnotizing Manda?! ) was not just for show, there is a mysterious figure, lurking in the shadows, giving orders to the Leader with an interest in sasuke's progress. Did he refer to Sasuke as "the machine"? It would appear as though Sasuke is a pawn in this enigmatic character's plan, as is Akatsuki itself perhaps. I wonder what motive he has for wanting Sasuke to surpass Itachi. Hopefully Tobi is still alive or that was a complete waste of a character. Despite his demi-god status of late it was nice to see Sasuke beng humble by admitting that Orochimaru was in a weakned state when he beat him as Deidara gave him a good thrashing reminding everyone that Sasuke is far from invincible. He may be crafty with that Sharingan, but that victory did not come easily. It's nice to see that the final other member is a woman. She was present at the meeting with Akatsuki and his superior so she must be in on the scheme they are planning behind closed doors. __________________

2007-07-20, 23:28	Link #306
rpgkiller999 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Just watched this chapter, looks like AF is not dead and IS the guy behind the shadow pulling the strings. He talked like he was watching the whole Sasuke fight and from what we know only D and AF from atatsuki was there. This makes it very interesting because the rest of Akatsuki members appearntly are just puppets. From the tone of this shadow figure he's going to arrange a fight between Sasuke and Itachi, and Sasuke will kill his brother without knowing he's being used. I have a feeling their bloodline has something to do with their plan, and Naruto's bloodline may have some kind of connection with Sasuke's. Lastly, if Naruto and the Akatsuki 'leader' have relations I for one doesn't want Naruto to have that Whirl eyes when his bloodline awaken. Well that's all the crazy theories I came up with, feel free to call me lunatic. =P

2007-07-21, 01:35	Link #313
ChojinLocke Year 2 Author Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18	Seriously how can the translations be so wrong sometimes? If you know it in Japanese just translate it in English!! English is much simpler than Japanese !! geez..

2007-07-21, 04:01	Link #316
Sinaura Fat Warlord Join Date: Dec 2005	"I'm almost out of chakra, but let me summon this giant-ass snake to take the blow for me..." That's like saying "I can barely walk, but let me run the New York Marathon." Consistency is all I ask for. Oh, and YAY KISHI! You offed one of the baddest summons (Manda of course) in less than a page's worth! AWESOME! Why doesn't Kishi just make Naruto wake up and say it was all a dream, just to end the story?

2007-07-21, 05:11	Link #320
Lunarskylar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Dark Side of The Moon	for everyone wondering how naruto is possibly going to surpass sasu-god, i sees some turbo training with his KB, i read a fake-spoiler a while back where it had naruto having all his clones training with the rookie 9 at teh same time, even sasu-god can't beat that speed also, i have a theory on why sasuke is as strong as he is, when he went to go train with oro, oro revealed something to him that he never would have expected to be tru; he knew he had hundreds of drooling fanboys and girl (with kishi being the pres of the sas-fanclub) but he DIDN'T know that there was an equally as powerfully sasugay club, dedicated to his death the only to protect himself from us, was to get insanely, annoyingly, inconsistently kishimoto-you-fucked-up-but-what-else-is-new-ly strong i mean that whole snake-hole-no-jutsu does seem like a freakin convenient way to escape from a mob of sas-haters, but what do i know anyways? does that mean we're to blame for this monster that is sasuke and his sharigan?