2009-03-23, 20:54 | Link #1201 | |
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I liked episode 12 quite a lot. We are finally starting to put all the pieces together, and I assume next episode we will learn even more. That letter made me like Yuki's character just a little more. It shows that she is not as naive as I previously thought and actually understands that her actions are hurting Touya. However, we can tell her response was half hearted as she still had one wish of Touya... And what do you know, he complies. Rina's "Get the hell out" in this episode was pure win. The silent master of the bar also knocked a little sense into Touya this episode. Sunohara can't seem to be a good boyfriend for Misaki no matter what he does. Misaki still showing that she is in love with Touya. Mana's mom is a shock! There are just so many things happening, I am sad that they will be leaving us till the Fall after next episode. So far White Album has just been one of the better done animes of melodrama I have seen in awhile (Besides Ef, and perhaps Toradora if you can call it as such).
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2009-03-23, 21:15 | Link #1202 | |||
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As for the letter... is Yuki breaking up with him or something? It is really confusing to me. Since its just words coming out of her head. The other thing I found important was that Rina had memorized the whole letter! Quote:
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2009-03-23, 21:17 | Link #1203 |
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This show is about as subtle as a bull in a china shop. They pretty much club you over the head with the "hints", it's just that most of it makes no rational sense. I think you're mistaking the intentional vagueness he's referring to as subtlety.
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2009-03-23, 21:28 | Link #1205 |
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That kind of misses the point of what I was saying. Sure the show is easy enough to follow, and it's pretty clear what the writers expect us to believe, it's just not very rational. It's like I'm watching pod people freshly hatched try to interact with other people and not doing a very good job of it.
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2009-03-23, 21:30 | Link #1206 | |
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AND.. I forgot to mention before: I don't know if we were shown Mana's mother before but she is actually the mean manager lady of Sakura-dan (I think that's what the girls are called, I'm sort of guessing).
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2009-03-23, 21:49 | Link #1207 | |
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2009-03-23, 21:53 | Link #1208 |
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That or just a typical bad relationship between the two. Yet I could've sworn when she mentioned her mother she said she was a designer. Kind of close. If someone could check back a couple episodes it might clarify.
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2009-03-23, 22:14 | Link #1209 |
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The characters actions don't match up with their motivations. Almost everything they do is contradictory to their (loosely) supplied goals. Some are less guilty of this than others but it's a little too prevalent throughout the whole series to let it slide.
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2009-03-23, 22:42 | Link #1212 | |
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Yayoi, goal = help Yuki, actions = hurt Yuki. Touya, goal = relationship with Yuki, actions = everything but relationship with Yuki. Misaki, goal = relationship with Touya, action = reject Touya. Rina is a little more complicated where Yuki is concerned, about half of the things she does help Yuki, the other half hurt. Haruka goal = Oniichan, actions = lolwut. Some of that is fine, and even expected, but they kind of overdid that aspect (most likely for the drama). They could have even mitigated some of that by rationalizing, but that is a pretty tall order to fill Last edited by relentlessflame; 2009-03-23 at 23:40. Reason: Merged double-post |
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2009-03-23, 22:52 | Link #1213 | ||
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2009-03-23, 22:57 | Link #1214 | |
Bittersweet Distractor
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Touya wants to be in a relationship with Yuki, but because he feels he is getting in the way of her career now, and that Yayoi prevents him from seeing her, he does not know how to actually make real contact with her. Now backed up into a corner, he is on the path of self-destruction. Misaki rejected Touya because she knew Touya's feelings were not truly sincere. Touya likes Yuki, and only truly thinks of Misaki as a friend at this time. Rina has been trying to help Yuki this whole time, and tries to keep Touya out of trouble. And by the way, those are not actual examples from the series. Pick out specific events that occurred in the series. It seems you cannot even do that, so why do you expect me to understand your point?
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2009-03-23, 23:08 | Link #1215 | |
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In hindsight. Yayoi.. she simply wishes for the advancement of Yuki's career, by any means necessary. Hence, keep boyfriend from interfering.. distract said boyfriend with sexy time. If she can maintain his attention he won't stray anywhere else. Touya.. trying to hold on to a relationship with Yuki but lacking the stones to either make a clean break or reconciliate... and he's bought the 'do not interfere with Yuki' arguement. Misaki... was trying to get into a relationship with Touya? Possibly. Rejected it because it would hurt Yuki. Punished herself by going out with Akira. Rina... wants to help Yuki/touya... Yayoi without relying on sexy time. And she does have the best of intentions. However may she have subconciously want to rid her own loneliness. Haruka... her actions at this point are in support of Touya and Yuki. Also befriended Mana. Fairly straight forward at this point.
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2009-03-23, 23:17 | Link #1216 | ||
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2009-03-23, 23:58 | Link #1218 | |
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Which is basically to say, this show is a soap opera -- the characters aren't supposed to be normal or rational, they're supposed to be twisted and messed up so that we can watch their lives unfold with a sort of sick fascination. |
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2009-03-24, 00:31 | Link #1220 | |
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In my opinion, the key theme of this show is not the idea that people mess up in fufilling their objectives, but rather that people cannot seem to find an understanding between themselves. We have seen this with several characters, where their interests, desires, and actions are often in conflict with each other. For example Misaki spends time with Touya because she likes him, but Touya spends time with her because he is triyng to kill time. When they finally understood each other, the confession episode, the relationship pretty much blew up in their faces.
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