2004-11-22, 07:22 | Link #1001 | |
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2004-11-22, 22:09 | Link #1003 |
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It was the son of old-man Kakuzawa that opened the hatches of the door and let Lucy escaped.
He killed the guards at the control room who were operating the hatches. He's only addressed by his last name and title, Prof. Kakuzawa or calling him Kakuzawa Jr. Who later gets his head popped up for giving thoughts and attempting to touch Nyu-Lucy. |
2004-11-22, 22:27 | Link #1004 | |
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If that's going to turn out into their last words, bastards they are. I don't feel very pleased with how the pace flowed from episode 12 til the end. Just look. Although the anime ending was left opened within a sense of full closure, it was full of paradoxes and worst of all contradictory ones. 1. Does Kouta ever realized Lucys' feelings for him? 2. Did Lucy ever explained the reason why she killed Kouta's family to him? 3. What was the whole point regarding the promise that Lucy wanted Kouta swear to her about killing her if she ever began to murder people, during their childhood? 4. Aside from being friendly and becoming part of other family member, did Nyu has had any other role to accomplish? 5. Would we ever get to see Lucy apologizing to someone else that is not Kouta? Forgive people and grant them a second chance? 6. Will someday Yuka confess to Kouta the motives behind her jealousy and regretting before him due to Kouta's childhood trauma? 7. What about Nana? Would we ever know how Kurama came into her life and what were her first feelings toward him upon experiencing kindness for first time? 8. What was that bastard Kakuzawa master plan deal about, if he no longer needed Lucy alive for it? Why does he changes his mind about Lucy's utility, recalling that in a middle episode he said that when Lucy climaxes all humanity will meet its end, but in the last episode changes his plot and wants Lucy not captured but rather full dead? 9. Will Lucy achieve someday hope, believe in herself, admit that she along with people make mistakes, and realizing that others suffer or had suffered like her to understand that she's no longer alone and that the whole world had never fully turned the back on her, as she initially thought so? 10. MOST IMPORTANT Really do Diclonus are borned just to specifically kill human beings? Can't they attempt to rebel against that instinct and take full, individual control of their fates and decide by themselves just like ordinary humans do? If Diclonus are indeed a natural evolution of the human lineage, were they deliberately either provoked or genetically programmed to murder humans? Or are they mutants borned or raised to become biological weapons? |
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2004-11-22, 23:17 | Link #1005 |
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lol i full heartly agree with you.. that ending was total bs and didnt answer many of the viewers questions.. how do they sleep at night?
Yes the ending was great in the fact that it was satisfying the relationship somewhat between kouta and lucy but as mentioned above its no where near a fma ending too many untied ends online petition? lol |
2004-11-23, 20:34 | Link #1006 | |
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2004-11-23, 21:16 | Link #1008 | |
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2004-11-23, 23:43 | Link #1011 | |
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2004-11-25, 10:28 | Link #1014 | |
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I'm the kind of folk that needs to listen, view, and understand both the objective and subjective issues. I don't simply know how do I feel about the anime. It left me confused for the last two episodes. Some parts I did felt empathy for: a) Lucy's childhood trauma; rotten kids may burn in hell and b) Kouta's childhood trauma; just to name this two examples for a start. The staff that worked around the anime seems that were very persistent to depict a full atmosphere of isolation, but I feel they weren't able to handle subtle changes from isolation to separation among the characters. I also disliked how the anime crew treated the characters: like they were left incompleted or unfinished with a few of them leaving some business pending. And I really disliked totally how they portrayed Lucy. The anime just left me with an array of jumbled, confused feelings for her. That's why I'm reading the manga, and man it has delivered me from many kinds of doubts and mixed feelings within the moral, psychological, and emotional aspects. I simply love and hate, at the same time, the manga version for Lucy. No matter how much do I call her the EVIL GODDESS of carnage and despise her at all, she manages to earn my sympathy and empathy. Okamoto-san portrays the complete, full side of her psychosis. She doesn't hold back her hatred and disdain against people to the boiling point of making others more miserable than how she was or felt at the beginning through physical and mental torture; she's playing with their feelings just like people in the past did toyed with her. I just hope that in the manga, Lucy touches rock-bottom into the abyss of mysogyny and psychotic insanity, and in case she's already there, then falling even deeper into utter, evil psychosis. On the other hand, the anime crew simply just watered down her personality. I felt that she just contained her inner rage and sadness. Even when we get into the apoligizing scene with Kouta, she still holds back lots of the stress, burden, and hellish trauma that she's been exposed and suffered through. Therefore, I'm not convinced with your reply for my questions 1-5 and 9. It's not that easy to come up with those conclusions for Lucy given that she always internalized all of her conflicting emotions in the anime. That's what the show needed handfully. Study, exploration, and empathy understanding of the main characters troubles, nature, current personality, outcomed desires from their personal traumas, and importantly their illusions. The manga fills little by little about the protagonists present personalities, however, takes it time without giving out too much. |
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One of the things I also dont want to touch is trying to justify/condemn Lucy. Any ideas about how it all happened are interesting though. |
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2004-11-25, 15:29 | Link #1016 | |
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2004-11-25, 15:39 | Link #1017 | |
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as for drawing conclusions.... well doing it from the manga will be better because lucy is best shown there....... every character is displayed more originally like how lucy is alot more evil and less sympathetic to anyone. |
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2004-11-26, 09:40 | Link #1019 |
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The manga can be discussed in its respective thread within AnimeSuki.
Anyone else interested should visit the following link below: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=22214 Read, discuss, ask questions, and post anything related to the manga once you get there. |
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drama, ecchi, horror, loli, romance, seinen |
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