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Chaos2Frozen · 2012-02-13, 03:13

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

Hitagi has a trauma because of the past incident...
And she clearly states that if Araragi do that thing to her, she will hate him...

Actually, she said that she was afraid that she might end up hating him.

Malkuth · 2012-02-13, 03:35

Just realized how unfortunate Koyomi is:

He can not do Shinobu because she got lolified
He can not do Tsubasa because a sexually anorexic played the damsel in distress to get him first, and Tsubasa is too good to become a second choice
He can not do with Hitagi because she afraid of equating him with the cultist that failed to rape her a couple of years ago
He can not do Mayoi because she is a loli ghost
He can not do Nadeko because of the what called syndrome that haunts childhood friends
He can not do Suruga, because she is loyal to his asuxual girlfriend
He can not do his sisters, because he sees them as family (the what called syndrome again)

So unless Hitagi gets over her sexual dysfunction (in other words doesn't cockblock him again), Koyomi will become another 30YO virgin

Azuma Denton · 2012-02-13, 04:43

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Just realized how unfortunate Koyomi is:

He can not do Shinobu because she got lolified
He can not do Tsubasa because a sexually anorexic played the damsel in distress to get him first, and Tsubasa is too good to become a second choice
He can not do with Hitagi because she afraid of equating him with the cultist that failed to rape her a couple of years ago
He can not do Mayoi because she is a loli ghost
He can not do Nadeko because of the what called syndrome that haunts childhood friends
He can not do Suruga, because she is loyal to his asuxual girlfriend
He can not do his sisters, because he sees them as family (the what called syndrome again)

So unless Hitagi gets over her sexual dysfunction (in other words doesn't cockblock him again), Koyomi will become another 30YO virgin

In fact, he cant do other girls because lots of pencil will fall down "accidentally" from sky onto him and other girls...

So yeah, unless Hitagi is cured from her trauma, he will be another 30YO virgin...

larethian · 2012-02-13, 05:21

I thought it was pretty obvious that if you read between the lines of Gahara's lines, she's practically screaming that her "request" after showdown with Kaiki would be to 'do' her.

Malkuth · 2012-02-13, 05:31

^ for anyone except Hitagi, I would have unconditionally agreed

articuzwolf · 2012-02-13, 05:36

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Originally Posted by larethian

^ You need a rewatch of bake, or better subs for both.

She met Kaiki after the crab incident. She was almost raped by a high-ranking priest of the cult her mother was in, not by Kaiki. She met crab (god wordplay) which removed her weight (feelings wordplay). Kaiki was one of the five conmen she met to get her "weight" returned to her.

yeah, my bad I was under the impression that Hitagi was almost raped by Kaiki

that's why she hated him so much

I guess I just got things mixed up

DragoZERO · 2012-02-13, 09:09

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Originally Posted by larethian

I thought it was pretty obvious that if you read between the lines of Gahara's lines, she's practically screaming that her "request" after showdown with Kaiki would be to 'do' her.

Yeah, I can see how one can think that but... that isn't romantic. I think Hitagi is just being a giant tease, as always.

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Originally Posted by articuzwolf

yeah, my bad I was under the impression that Hitagi was almost raped by Kaiki

that's why she hated him so much

I guess I just got things mixed up

I was mixed up too. I forgot the part about trying to get help regarding the crab.

broken270 · 2012-02-13, 09:15

Dialogue is strong here, that much is certain. However, there is a concern for the other sister's arc. Assuming Karen ends next week, does anyone know if Tsuhiki's arc would be done well given the remaining episodes it has left?

taichi-kun · 2012-02-13, 16:33

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Originally Posted by ickem

Spoiler for spoiler:

Yes maybe I will...

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

Though i am intrigued to why Hitagi says, "You will be sleepless this night..."
Finally eh??

Yes.. It was about time for them as a couple to have sex...

Anh_Minh · 2012-02-13, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Just realized how unfortunate Koyomi is:

He can not do Shinobu because she got lolified
He can not do Tsubasa because a sexually anorexic played the damsel in distress to get him first, and Tsubasa is too good to become a second choice
He can not do with Hitagi because she afraid of equating him with the cultist that failed to rape her a couple of years ago
He can not do Mayoi because she is a loli ghost
He can not do Nadeko because of the what called syndrome that haunts childhood friends
He can not do Suruga, because she is loyal to his asuxual girlfriend
He can not do his sisters, because he sees them as family (the what called syndrome again)

So unless Hitagi gets over her sexual dysfunction (in other words doesn't cockblock him again), Koyomi will become another 30YO virgin

I think you mean the Westermarck Effect, and that's only the reason for his sisters. Nothing to do with Nadeko.

And Hitagi didn't play the damsel in distress to get him. If you go by that, he rescued Tsubasa first. Hitagi seduced him. By insulting him.

Evil_Sephiroth · 2012-02-14, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I think you mean the Westermarck Effect, and that's only the reason for his sisters. Nothing to do with Nadeko.

And Hitagi didn't play the damsel in distress to get him. If you go by that, he rescued Tsubasa first. Hitagi seduced him. By insulting him.

Or Koyomi seduces Hitagi by acting normal (want to help everyone) XD

Ray · 2012-02-14, 15:40

I loved Hitagi and Shinobu in this episode. Give us more of these two characters, Shaft!

kitten320 · 2012-02-14, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Kusa-San

Damn, Im sorry for those who like her but I can' stand Hanekawa. Even when she's not in an episode, she's ruining the show (for me). How dares she bullying Senjouhara

? It's rare for me to not like a character but Hanekawa is one of them.

Honestly, Senjoughara would totally deserve to be bullied because she always bullies others. Especially Araragi.

I'm already used to characters weirdness in this show but back when I watched Bakemonogatari I really couldn't understand all the love Senjoughara was receiving because for the most of the time she is an ass.

For me Hanekawa totally rose in my book for being able to have such power on Semjoughara who could easily pierce her with pencils and staplers.
Hanekawa has no strength and yet she rules.

However, I'm 100% sure that no bullying is involved. Hanekawa is not a blood thirsty person like Senjoughara.

frubam · 2012-02-14, 20:45

Hmmm, I don't get why Araragi is the master here. Isn't the one who was bit the 'servant' and the one who bites the 'master'? If it's something that will be explained later, please don't tell me =0(.

Kaoru Chujo · 2012-02-14, 23:24

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Originally Posted by kitten320

...However, I'm 100% sure that no bullying is involved. Hanekawa is not a blood thirsty person like Senjoughara.

The way I feel it is that Senjougahara has a violent and dangerous-seeming surface concealing an insecure interior, longing for love; whereas Hanekawa has a controlled exterior concealing a controlling and dangerous interior. However, Senjougahara's talk about bullying sounded like some kind of joke to me. Time will tell.

In any case, I'm sold on Senjougahara. Fascinating and attractive character, for me. I adored her way of reacting to Araragi's bald declaration of love. She declared her love in return, but in a typically roundabout way.

As for frubam's question about the master/servant thing with Shinobu, it is pretty interesting. Perhaps it refers to the (true) idea that our servants are in some sense our masters (as in InuxBoku). And perhaps it is saying that in the NisiOisiN world, the bond between a vampire and her bitee binds in both directions.

Zetsubo · 2012-02-15, 00:56

Leave the master servant thing between Araragi and Shinobu till Kizumonogatari... it'll be more fun that way... I promise.

Hitagi needs Koyomi more than Hanaekawa.

Hanekawa wasn't desperate and could afford to take her time and wait on Koyomi to confess... or not at all... Hitagi could not. She found someone great in her life and grabbed her chance.

Hanekawas strength is her also her weakness... because she doesn't feel pressure until its TOO MUCH and then she evolves to a demon cat.

Shikijin · 2012-02-15, 03:32

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

whereas Hanekawa has a controlled exterior concealing a controlling and dangerous interior.

You make her sound like a yandere

It's just that she is good personified and she won't allow any evil

What I like of her is exactly that she can make people listen to her without threat of violence.

ID555 · 2012-02-15, 05:14

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Originally Posted by kitten320

Honestly, Senjoughara would totally deserve to be bullied because she always bullies others. Especially Araragi.

I'm already used to characters weirdness in this show but back when I watched Bakemonogatari I really couldn't understand all the love Senjoughara was receiving because for the most of the time she is an ass.

For me Hanekawa totally rose in my book for being able to have such power on Semjoughara who could easily pierce her with pencils and staplers.
Hanekawa has no strength and yet she rules.

However, I'm 100% sure that no bullying is involved. Hanekawa is not a blood thirsty person like Senjoughara.

Maybe that's the point. In real life, despite being a major catch, Senjougahara's broken personality would turn off most guys, except Araragi; she recognised that and pounced quickly. I'd totally put up with the thorns though. Anyway, she enjoys being abusive/it's a defensive mechanism and the guy knows it, so no harm there.

omimon · 2012-02-15, 08:55

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Originally Posted by Zetsubo

Hitagi needs Koyomi more than Hanaekawa.

Hanekawa wasn't desperate and could afford to take her time and wait on Koyomi to confess... or not at all... Hitagi could not. She found someone great in her life and grabbed her chance.

Hanekawas strength is her also her weakness... because she doesn't feel pressure until its TOO MUCH and then she evolves to a demon cat.

That's debatable. Senjougahara has a father she could rely on, Hanekawa doesn't. Truth is the difference between the two of them is that Hitagi is aware or her weakness while Hanekawa isn't.

Anh_Minh · 2012-02-15, 09:09

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Originally Posted by ID555

Maybe that's the point. In real life, despite being a major catch, Senjougahara's broken personality would turn off most guys, except Araragi; she recognised that and pounced quickly. I'd totally put up with the thorns though. Anyway, she enjoys being abusive/it's a defensive mechanism and the guy knows it, so no harm there.

"Put up"? I think the thorns are what make her interesting. I find them... stimulating.

(The stabbing habit I'm less sold on, though. But then, I'm not part vampire.)

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2012-02-13, 03:35	Link #62
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	Just realized how unfortunate Koyomi is: He can not do Shinobu because she got lolified He can not do Tsubasa because a sexually anorexic played the damsel in distress to get him first, and Tsubasa is too good to become a second choice He can not do with Hitagi because she afraid of equating him with the cultist that failed to rape her a couple of years ago He can not do Mayoi because she is a loli ghost He can not do Nadeko because of the what called syndrome that haunts childhood friends He can not do Suruga, because she is loyal to his asuxual girlfriend He can not do his sisters, because he sees them as family (the what called syndrome again) So unless Hitagi gets over her sexual dysfunction (in other words doesn't cockblock him again), Koyomi will become another 30YO virgin

2012-02-14, 20:45	Link #74
frubam simp for Lyria Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on the Grandcypher Age: 40	Hmmm, I don't get why Araragi is the master here. Isn't the one who was bit the 'servant' and the one who bites the 'master'? If it's something that will be explained later, please don't tell me =0(. __________________ Pure of heart, precious as life (^,^ )

2012-02-13, 05:21	Link #64
larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I thought it was pretty obvious that if you read between the lines of Gahara's lines, she's practically screaming that her "request" after showdown with Kaiki would be to 'do' her.

2012-02-13, 05:31	Link #65
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	^ for anyone except Hitagi, I would have unconditionally agreed

2012-02-13, 09:15	Link #68
broken270 Defying gravity Join Date: Jul 2010	Dialogue is strong here, that much is certain. However, there is a concern for the other sister's arc. Assuming Karen ends next week, does anyone know if Tsuhiki's arc would be done well given the remaining episodes it has left?

2012-02-14, 15:40	Link #72
Ray Garnet Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	I loved Hitagi and Shinobu in this episode. Give us more of these two characters, Shaft!

2012-02-15, 00:56	Link #76
Zetsubo 著述遮断 Join Date: Jul 2009	Leave the master servant thing between Araragi and Shinobu till Kizumonogatari... it'll be more fun that way... I promise. Hitagi needs Koyomi more than Hanaekawa. Hanekawa wasn't desperate and could afford to take her time and wait on Koyomi to confess... or not at all... Hitagi could not. She found someone great in her life and grabbed her chance. Hanekawas strength is her also her weakness... because she doesn't feel pressure until its TOO MUCH and then she evolves to a demon cat.