(L) Dragon Ball Super

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

they could be really "a little more strong than universe 7 sayans overal since they where not "erazed by frost", they had time to evolve.

Except Frost is not a ruthless tyrant like Frieza but a cunning fraud.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Roxis

You speaking the content but the problem is the outward.
People mad because Super saiyan image has reduced now. The once legendary super saiyan now treated being cheap-cards anybody could get by simple "genius". This offensive were started by Goten and Trunks but i never thought Toriyama and others would underestimate the authentic very bad.
Yes, both universe 7 and 6 are different so of course there are different concept of SS here but it really hard to swallow for us long-timer DBZ fans to see how cheap SS now. At least we demand for more rational way of unvierse 6 saiyans to obtains SS form.

To be fair, SSJ already a joke the moment when Dr.Gero, the earthling scientist, created a few robots that have higher power level than former space emperor and alien beings, and all of this was taking place in his cave.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Roxis

Except Frost is not a ruthless tyrant like Frieza but a cunning fraud.

yeah and that allowed then to evolve.

another thing which i think was interesting is which that episode basically beerus confirmed which the strongets peoples in the whole universe 7 are indeed on earth for now, cuz others warriors or where killed by frieza or defeated by goku an his friends turning earth in the "most strong planet" in the unverse when comes to power level and alive peoples.

[Yui Is My Wife]

Originally Posted by Sixth

and all of this was taking place in his cave.

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

[alex_drian]

Originally Posted by Yui Is My Wife

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

Mad genius

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by Sixth

To be fair, SSJ already a joke the moment when Dr.Gero, the earthling scientist, created a few robots that have higher power level than former space emperor and alien beings, and all of this was taking place in his cave.

Imagine that, had Goku not sniffed it out, in a few years Red Ribbon would have conquered the Earth, then started expanding into space and fought a war with the Frieza empire. AND WON .

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by Sixth

To be fair, SSJ already a joke the moment when Dr.Gero, the earthling scientist, created a few robots that have higher power level than former space emperor and alien beings, and all of this was taking place in his cave.

Android overpower space sentient is nothing strange that is prove knowledge is limitless, you may consider that as ones of power set to be introduced at Dragon ball series and Android arc is not insulting Dragon ball as Super did.
True, in android saga super saiyan saga legend image begun to reduce by power level scale but is not cheapened skate like in super.

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

yeah and that allowed then to evolve.

another thing which i think was interesting is which that episode basically beerus confirmed which the strongets peoples in the whole universe 7 are indeed on earth for now, cuz others warriors or where killed by frieza or defeated by goku an his friends turning earth in the "most strong planet" in the unverse when comes to power level and alive peoples.

I am pretty certain Jacob far more powerful than Roshi but why that damn rotten pervert bastard should get choosen?

[alex_drian]

Originally Posted by Roxis

I am pretty certain Jacob far more powerful than Roshi but why that damn rotten pervert bastard should get choosen?

Seems that Roshi is as strong as Cell now

[n0m@n]

Lol, Frieza looks like the main fighter of Universe 7.
People have been discussing about Frieza's 'possible' new form due to a one of the upcoming WCF is that of Frieza but was written as 'Golden Frieza (Angel)'. Though I guess it's simply referring to Frieza who is now dead with halo above his head.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Roxis

Android overpower space sentient is nothing strange that is prove knowledge is limitless, you may consider that as ones of power set to be introduced at Dragon ball series and Android arc is not insulting Dragon ball as Super did.
True, in android saga super saiyan saga legend image begun to reduce by power level scale but is not cheapened skate like in super.

Well, SSJ is always a joke, whether in Cell arc, Buu arc, and most of the movies version.

The only time that SSJ looks glorious was first Cooler movie.

So yeah, I don't really feel a thing when U6 Saiyan can do it with ease. Plus, SSJ is nothing but an obsolete transformation when SSB was introduced. Heck, even Gohan doesn't want to use it anymore.

[DemonneoPT]

SSJB should just be a simple KI change and not an actual transformation. That way normal SSJ would still be relevant.

[Blueknight78]

hmmm, about the tails and the oozaro, honestly speaking in Z it already was dropped in the beginner in vegita arc, that was the last time we saw a sayan in manga or anime with tail, akira just dropped it after that arc, vegita, gohan and goku lost permanently they tails for a unknow magic way and gothen and trunks never had one, even the "new girls generations" pan and bra also don't have a tail, they tried to bring it back in GT, but since it is a alternative universe then they really lost it, then akira to be practical and maybe "lazyness" decided to remove it on universe 6.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

hmmm, about the tails and the oozaro, honestly speaking in Z it already was dropped in the beginner in vegita arc, that was the last time we saw a sayan in manga or anime with tail, akira just dropped it after that arc, vegita, gohan and goku lost permanently they tails for a unknow magic way and gothen and trunks never had one, even the "new girls generations" pan and bra also don't have a tail, they where bring back in GT, but since it is a alternative universe then they really lost it, then akira to be pratical and maybe "lazy" decided to remove it on universe 6.

I think Toriyama should have take some tips from Kishimoto.

What is Naruto's best move? Yup, chakra megazord.

So for Goku, it should be Golden Oozaru.

Talk about wasted potential here, Toriyama.

[DemonneoPT]

It does not even need to be Goku and co to have the tails. Toryiama should just give them to the sayans from the U6 and bring again the Oozaru greatness! It's indeed a wast of potential since it could bring back more diversity to the show!

[n0m@n]

Damn. Was watching it on stream but Toei animation started removing all the streams on youtube lol.

Spoiler for 93:

So there is an Universe with a 'human' that is stronger than the God of Destruction of that Universe. And that God of Destruction is stronger than Beerus (though Beerus only lost against him in a arm wrestle). Wonder which Universe that is. Lol, even a reluctant Krillin started to approve of Frieza who killed him back in Namek after hearing that.

And Kaioshin....wasnt he the big shot who said all of the Kaioshin (that were killed by Buu) can one shot kill Frieza back in Buu saga? Looks like Frieza's threat level changed drastically inside him. He's one character that never changes since Buu saga since he was one of the biggest let down character of all time lol.

And Brolly girl. We do get her transformation. But it just makes me wish that Brolly exists in this series since he's a movie character so he most likely doesnt exist...

So Frieza's participation is seen as threat even from other Universe. And Frieza's demand of getting resurrected if they won. Can't be helped since every participating member can make a wish if their Universe wins(I think that was the case).

[quagmire]

Spoiler for for ep 93:

Hmm.... Frieza not knowing the rules for the earth dragon balls is what will come back to bite him and hence why Goku went with the deal most likely. He already got revived once using earth's dragon balls.

[Blueknight78]

man i can stop to think which one looked more "evil" if goku o frieza, all gokus faces and the way he looked happy after witness friend golden form, man serious someone must stop that monster called goku he is really the big threat here, even superman from injust must learn with him what really means being selfish and "evil" goku is really bad material

female brolly is "super jelly toward cawlifa and wanted to kill cabe" and the rat god of destruction really being a "rat" and want to kill beerus he is really looking for something.

i can imagine the guy which is strong than a god of destruction for sure must be the guy from the "hero teams" which appear fighting goku.

Originally Posted by quagmire

Spoiler for for ep 93:

Hmm.... Frieza not knowing the rules for the earth dragon balls is what will come back to bite him and hence why Goku went with the deal most likely. He already got revived once using earth's dragon balls.

for your spoiler if i'm not wrong that limitation was the "old dragon balls" the new ones don't have it and you can be revived multiple times the only real limit of dragon balls could be things like "make me super strong(like limite of powers) or maybe he is too powerfull to be revived by normal dragon balls but based on goku selfishness i can see goku want to really ressurect frieza just to have a rematch with him since what is matter for him are battles and even if this means bring bag the big scum of the universe.

[n0m@n]

Originally Posted by quagmire

Spoiler for for ep 93:

Hmm.... Frieza not knowing the rules for the earth dragon balls is what will come back to bite him and hence why Goku went with the deal most likely. He already got revived once using earth's dragon balls.

Oh yeah. I also forgot about the rule lol.

Spoiler for 93:

Goku will keep his part of the deal of giving him the earth's dragon ball and Frieza gets trolled on his own.

So 1 hour 30 minutes till the tournament starts. Wonder how many episode that equates to for the tournament to start...

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Yui Is My Wife

WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

Well, I'm not Dr. Gero

Looks like Goku understood his own weakness when facing Frieza. Also, they will keep nerfing Hit since his speciality is killing others.

Wonder if we'll get an opening revision with Frieza replacing Buu. Maybe that's the secret to why the single has delayed so much

[quagmire]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

for your spoiler if i'm not wrong that limitation was the "old dragon balls" the new ones don't have it and you can be revived multiple times the only real limit of dragon balls could be things like "make me super strong(like limite of powers) or maybe he is too powerfull to be revived by normal dragon balls but based on goku selfishness i can see goku want to really ressurect frieza just to have a rematch with him since what is matter for him are battles and even if this means bring bag the big scum of the universe.

The new ones Dende made were based on the model of the dragon balls Kame made so it has the same limitations, just Dende made Shenron able to grant initially two and now three wishes.

To my knowledge, Dende has not removed the only being able to revive someone once limitation.