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2009-08-26, 15:26 | Link #23 | |||
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Spoiler for novel 6, I believe:
Also, if it is true, I think the plan is not his, but of the Organization. PP: Good point. For Itsuki, and the organization as a wholle, Haruhi is pretty unstable and they afraid anything that might angry/bore/unplease her. He even told Kyon, in Day of Sagitarous, he envy Kyon for not being afraid Haruhi might destroy the world if they lose the game. |
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2009-08-26, 15:55 | Link #25 | ||
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2009-08-26, 16:01 | Link #26 | |
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I dislike the idea that all of Koizumi's actions towards Kyon is pure acting because, well, I tend to very much dislike highly pretentious characters, and if this is all acting, then Koizumi is a highly pretentious character. I'd rather not dislike him because he strikes me as a good person in general. Oh... something else to keep in mind, though - there have been times when Koizumi has acted very chummy towards Kyon... and Haruhi wasn't there. No need for acting then, right? For example, when Koizumi dragged Kyon off to see a closed space, I got a distinct feeling that Koizumi wanted to show off in front of Kyon. I really did get that impression from him.
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2009-08-26, 16:12 | Link #27 | |
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Well, in the end, he is a 'mysterious transfer student' PP: Also, you too, Triple, edit Simplicity spoilers to be under the spiler tag. If we do not take care, we might angry teh mods. Andspoil the poor aime viewers. |
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2009-08-26, 17:23 | Link #28 | |
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Heck, he even managed to put on two completely separate personae, and at least once did so at the same time. Something not unlike Koizumi during the school festival. ... And no, I'm not just making the comparison because they're both voiced by JYB in their respective dubs.
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2009-08-26, 17:35 | Link #29 | |
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1) Allowed his emotions to get the better of him. 2) Failed to make sure that his top soldier/mecha pilot was loyal to the core for him. He would have failed miserably if Charles didn't like stupidly messing around so much. Lelouch is a great character, but his competency is a bit over-rated. So is Koizumi's, it appears to me... If Koizumi is all that, why hasn't he figured out Haruhi yet? Why hasn't he conceived of a method to keep her entertained into perpetuity?
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2009-08-26, 17:54 | Link #30 | |
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See, that faking act in the movie might be too much, I agree. However, he is, by own admission acting full time to Haruhi and, yet, she haven't discovered yet. It make he, at last, a good actor (not great, or wonderful, but good). He is also pretty competent, at last to follow Harui's weird orders, so he migh be competent in the Organization as well (not that competent, though) Nothing to do with be able to keep Haruhi entertained perpetuity. |
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First of all... do you honestly think that there's a Code Geass fan in existence, and posting/browsing on Anime Suki's Haruhi board, that doesn't know the end to Season 1 yet? I mean, it's all been English Dubbed even, right?
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Honestly, I think it would take more than HaruhiKyon as a couple to keep Haruhi entertained. I really do.
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2009-08-26, 18:20 | Link #33 |
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First of all, I'm a bit skittish when it comes to spoilers of any anime within the past five years, even those that should be considered well known. Second, there's not even a full year between the initial airdates of the end of CG and the beginning of R2, so if you're going to say one's not okay, then the other shouldn't be either. (conversely, if one's okay, they both should be.)
Third... perhaps I could've made my initial argument a little better. I apologize for that. I was more interested in trying to prove Koizumi is more along the lines of Lelouch than the DN characters than I was in actually thinking the point through.
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2009-08-26, 18:45 | Link #34 | ||
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Personally, if it's really popular, and it's English dubbed, I feel it's fair game for non-spoiler tag discussion. That's just my view, though. I don't think that R2 has been English dubbed yet, but I stand to be corrected on that. I haven't bothered to check really, as my love of Code Geass went downhill big-time with the 2nd half of R2... Quote:
In fairness, Koizumi's acting (if you view it as that) is closer in style to Lelouch's acting than it is to L or Light's, yes, I'll agree with you there. If anything, I got a bit too animated. Code Geass is one anime that really hits a nerve with me for various reasons... Spoiler for Code Geass spoiler tags out of respect for Kogetsu:
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2009-08-26, 22:55 | Link #37 |
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They were airing it two episodes at a time. They had to restart it a few times because BZ! couldn't keep up with the broadcast schedule.
And Haruhi is slightly different in this case, as that's the series this forum is for. If we were talking in the Code Geass forum, I'd be doing the same thing with 06 Haruhi. (But that's not likely to ever happen, as I never leave this one, and you said you don't really like the series. )
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2009-08-26, 23:07 | Link #38 |
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Itsuki ala Lelouch or L/Light.... My, that's alot of names beginning with L.
I think at the start of the series, Itsuki is at best indifferent to the Brigade. But, as the story progresses, this indifference moves towards the "at worst" section. At best, he seems willing to stick with the Brigade.
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2009-08-27, 03:32 | Link #39 |
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No one has suggested the most obvious (to me) reason for Itsuki acting the way he does around Kyon, one that some of you may have heard from me before, so I'll say it again.
He does it simply to annoy Kyon. Why, you might ask? Any number of reasons. 1) Haruhi seems to enjoy giving Kyon a hard time and seeing him in distress, so more Kyon distress (esp. on behalf of a romantically unthreatening character) means happy Haruhi. 2) The specific manner of his annoyance keeps Kyon from knowing too much about him or asking too many questions about him, even when prompted to. 3) He's jealous of Haruhi's attraction to Kyon. And so on... I do side with the idea that everything Itsuki does (not just regarding Kyon) is calculated toward a certain result. His admitted farcical personality hints at it. I don't know if it's on the "wheels within wheels" level of Light or L, though.
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2009-08-27, 04:09 | Link #40 |
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Well you have to keep in mind that the story is being told from Kyon's point of view. From the moment he met Koizumi, he really wasn't too fond of him... so all of Koizumi's actions are seen through "Kyon-shaded-glasses."
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