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Old 2007-05-18, 05:17   Link #1
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The sound that I'm not dreaming to get!!! the bzzt bzzt sound!!

Well installing some game and when I mount it and install I hear a sound in the process like bzzt bzzt.....bzzt.....bzzt bzzt...that is a sign right? If so OMG!!

To be honest I stressed it I did extracting and deleting but only once..

Now I'm afraid of turning of my pc because it might you know the next time I turn it on the drive is already dead....


I don't like that sound...

So what do you think?
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Old 2007-05-18, 05:19   Link #2
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"bzzzt bzzzt"is not much to go by when finding out what sound you mean

It could just be your harddrive buzzing along while installing it since it has to read and install the game from the same disk to the same disk ( you mounted the image right.. so that's read/write intensive stuff on one harddrive), if you have only one harddrive.
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Old 2007-05-18, 05:22   Link #3
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Might be interesting to know which part of your PC dos the bzzt bzzt sound. When you open it, can you identify the source of the noise? (maybe its just the DVD drive or a cooling fan or something?)
If it is actually one of your harddrives, you'ld need to identify which one.

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To be honest I stressed it I did extracting and deleting but only once..
Now I wouldn't call that stress (did not take a day to install right? )
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Old 2007-05-18, 06:21   Link #4
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"bzzzt bzzzt"is not much to go by when finding out what sound you mean
Hehe sorry I don't know what word to describe the sound.. but let's just put it as a unpleasant sound.

Anyways no it's not the dvd since I mounted an image file and install something..

And after the installation the sound stopped thank god..I thought the drive will fail in front off my eyes..

Oh yeah when the installation stopped I rested the pc for an 1hr to be safe...since I heavily used it...I don't even think it helped..huhu

Hope it does not fail before I have the money to buy a hard drive..

Oh yeah again worse case scenario is I think it's scratching the drive or something..

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It could just be your harddrive buzzing along while installing it since it has to read and install the game from the same disk to the same disk ( you mounted the image right.. so that's read/write intensive stuff on one harddrive), if you have only one harddrive.
I saved the file in the same drive since thats what I'm doing before...I mean the image file was in the same drive and then mounted it and install..that actually it...Man I became broke when I fixed my pc so all my money are gone..have to save again...ya!!! battle hunger!!


@Jinto Lin: the installation finished about 5mins or so

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Old 2007-05-18, 06:42   Link #5
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I'm just saying that it could just be the normal sound of the harddrive because of read/write intensive activities, not that you're doing anything wrong with the mounting, a lot of peeps do that.

but still, we need more than "bzzzzt bzzzzt" to go on

and about your worst case scenario: When your harddrive is physically damaging itself you'll notice that on a whole other level.
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Old 2007-05-18, 06:56   Link #6
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Oh I see thanks!! That almost killed me...

Oh yeah when installing a mounted image should I use a different hard drive to do it? I mean mounted from D: installing in C: or I'll still hear that sound?? "bzzt" "bzzt"?

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Old 2007-05-18, 07:37   Link #7
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Have you checked to see if a wasp has managed to get inside your HDD? It could very well be trying to cry out for help whenever your computer gets heated up.

Checking if it's your HDD is simple (depending on the noise level) - Do something that you know makes the noise happen and touch the HDD to check for vibrations that match with the sound. That's how I discovered where my computer noise was coming from.
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Old 2007-05-18, 07:55   Link #8
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Oh I see thanks!! That almost killed me...

Oh yeah when installing a mounted image should I use a different hard drive to do it? I mean mounted from D: installing in C: or I'll still hear that sound?? "bzzt" "bzzt"?
Nah, it's not really a necessity, it would most likely only improve speeds when installing or loading if the image mounted is also used simultaneously while playing the game

And it would ofcourse increase your storage

You could also listen to your pc if you hear the "bzzzt bzzzt" sound while starting up the pc and your OS is loading .
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Old 2007-05-18, 09:23   Link #9
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If it is an image of CD or DVD it can occur that copy protections like e.g. starforce reread certain parts of the image (and therefore hdd) to verify that it is an legitimate copy (part of the copy protection).
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Old 2007-05-18, 14:26   Link #10
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You rested your computer? Look here - it's important not to stress your system to dangerous limits, but your activities are not going anywhere near the stress levels, I assure you. Because the computer is made up of moving parts, you'll hear noises - the sound of your CD/DVD spinning in the drive (this sound changes because it's not always spinning, and not always at the same speed), the sound of your HD performing various actions, and even fans whirring to different speeds (if your system is using fans with variable speeds - many newer systems do). These are all normal, get used to them. It's important to get used to them, because occasionally when you do hear a sound that is out of place, you'll know that there's a problem. But if youre terrified of every single sound, you'll lose that ability.

For what it's worth, I've put my computer through the airport three times and only my case took damage - all three hard drives and three optical drives were not damaged (for the record, the case took damage because airport security insisted on opening the case to look inside, but they didn't put the cover back on properly). I don't recommend slamming your computer around, but that's a testament to how much physical punishment the system can take (while off, anyway - when in operation, it's a bit more delicate). I've also put an HD through months of activity where it'd piece together fragments of a file the size of gigabytes (~3-4 gigabytes on average) and then completely re-write the file, a process that took a few minutes. That HD is about five years old.

I could just be lucky, but the point I'm making here is that you're worrying way too much. There are some lucky people (me?) who rarely experience a hardware problem, and there are some people where their computers always seem to be cursed, but don't take a superstitious view on it. Your computer is there to be used, you paid for it, and it doesn't have worker's rights. It doesn't have defined break periods. The average home user has no chance of breaking their hardware from their average usage - they only have to worry about aging hardware and defects.

So go ahead, do what you think is pushing your system. You'll be terrified the entire way through, I'm sure, but when you finish with that activity, you'll realize that nothing bad happened, your system performed the way it should have, and perhaps you'll be a bit less afraid from then on.
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Old 2007-05-18, 15:20   Link #11
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I guess it depends on whether he heard "Bzzzzzt" or "Click!" in rapid succession. In my little corner of the world... bzzzzt usually means a fan is giving up its ball bearings as sacrifice (time to change a fan).

OTOH, "clickclickclickclick" means I'd better have backed up my files recently because the hard drive is spiraling into death.

I find it helpful to open the case... take a cardboard tube and hold it to my ear and use that to isolate a noise is coming from (stolen from auto-repair tricks in isolating wierd noises in the engine).

((doesn't regret using an ultra highspeed cd-drive for target practice because it sounded like a freaking turbine engine when it'd spin....))
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Old 2007-05-18, 20:35   Link #12
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You rested your computer? Look here - it's important not to stress your system to dangerous limits, but your activities are not going anywhere near the stress levels, I assure you. Because the computer is made up of moving parts, you'll hear noises - the sound of your CD/DVD spinning in the drive (this sound changes because it's not always spinning, and not always at the same speed), the sound of your HD performing various actions, and even fans whirring to different speeds (if your system is using fans with variable speeds - many newer systems do). These are all normal, get used to them. It's important to get used to them, because occasionally when you do hear a sound that is out of place, you'll know that there's a problem. But if youre terrified of every single sound, you'll lose that ability.

For what it's worth, I've put my computer through the airport three times and only my case took damage - all three hard drives and three optical drives were not damaged (for the record, the case took damage because airport security insisted on opening the case to look inside, but they didn't put the cover back on properly). I don't recommend slamming your computer around, but that's a testament to how much physical punishment the system can take (while off, anyway - when in operation, it's a bit more delicate). I've also put an HD through months of activity where it'd piece together fragments of a file the size of gigabytes (~3-4 gigabytes on average) and then completely re-write the file, a process that took a few minutes. That HD is about five years old.

I could just be lucky, but the point I'm making here is that you're worrying way too much. There are some lucky people (me?) who rarely experience a hardware problem, and there are some people where their computers always seem to be cursed, but don't take a superstitious view on it. Your computer is there to be used, you paid for it, and it doesn't have worker's rights. It doesn't have defined break periods. The average home user has no chance of breaking their hardware from their average usage - they only have to worry about aging hardware and defects.

So go ahead, do what you think is pushing your system. You'll be terrified the entire way through, I'm sure, but when you finish with that activity, you'll realize that nothing bad happened, your system performed the way it should have, and perhaps you'll be a bit less afraid from then on.
Well I just don't know whats a good sign and whats a bad sign I mean I only heard this once and it was yesterday.. Wow thats an adventure

Um does anyone know what the sound of a failing seagate? I mean I only heard maxtor,wester degital, hitachi, samsung, but no seagate so that I can know if my drive has head damage.. or something..

Oh yeah if your pc is set to 32 bit and you played a game and set it to resolution 800x600x16 will the monitor flicker? because mine did(set by accident I mean I didn't check it.)..another sound that I don't want to hear..
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Well I just don't know whats a good sign and whats a bad sign I mean I only heard this once and it was yesterday.. Wow thats an adventure
The point is to say that sounds occur, and they're different between computers but similar enough that a person with experience can likely tell when it's a bad sound.

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Um does anyone know what the sound of a failing seagate? I mean I only heard maxtor,wester degital, hitachi, samsung, but no seagate so that I can know if my drive has head damage.. or something..
All failing drives sound about the same. The sound is called the "click of death" and I'd always wondered about whether I'd notice it in my own drives until recently, when I'm fairly certain that I heard it from a very old drive. Basically, you would hear the drive's normal noise, followed by some clicking sounds (the frequency may vary depending on the drive) as the drive struggles to read (or write) something that it can't. It's not that the noise is necessarily loud, so much as that it's a very uncharacteristic noise. But you'd need to be used to the sounds of HDs to know what an uncharacteristic noise is, I suppose.

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Oh yeah if your pc is set to 32 bit and you played a game and set it to resolution 800x600x16 will the monitor flicker? because mine did(set by accident I mean I didn't check it.)..another sound that I don't want to hear..
The monitor flickers when it's changing resolutions. This happens on both CRT and LCD monitors, but due to the technology of the CRT monitor you'd probably also hear a loud buzz sound.
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Old 2007-05-18, 21:27   Link #14
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The monitor flickers when it's changing resolutions. This happens on both CRT and LCD monitors, but due to the technology of the CRT monitor you'd probably also hear a loud buzz sound.
Well the flick happen to me a bunch of times have to alt f4 to do something..


Side topic: Um I noticed that my hard drive is eating some disc space(I don't know what files are eating the space)..about 4gb how can I get rid of those useless trash??

I know theres a program for it but I think I forgot..
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Old 2007-05-18, 21:57   Link #15
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Well the flick happen to me a bunch of times have to alt f4 to do something..
What!? Most of times, if you're gaming, your monitor will change resolutions to display the 640x480 opening movies in fullscreen, or any other type of cinematics for that matter. Maybe you just need to wait a bit, or perhaps there's some conflict with the refresh rates your monitor can handle... Not really sure. But there's no reason to bang on the alt+F4 combination! First try to isolate what the problem is, instead of just bumping into a rushed way of fixing it.
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Old 2007-05-18, 23:00   Link #16
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What!? Most of times, if you're gaming, your monitor will change resolutions to display the 640x480 opening movies in fullscreen, or any other type of cinematics for that matter. Maybe you just need to wait a bit, or perhaps there's some conflict with the refresh rates your monitor can handle... Not really sure. But there's no reason to bang on the alt+F4 combination! First try to isolate what the problem is, instead of just bumping into a rushed way of fixing it.
Um I can't because the sound is scary I mean the sound of the monitor is "click" "click" "click" "click" "click" "click" "click" "click" "click" and got freaked out..
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