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2011-10-24, 10:49 | Link #17262 |
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when the political top dogs makes such declarations, its usually to get support from the PEOPLE for their new rule.
which means that its not the "new boss" thats the problem. its the employees.
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Employees that have been conditioned to violence, mistrust and brutality and accepted as daily life thanks to their old boss. It takes time for that sort of culture to fade away but it can so long as nothing gets in the way. The other factor is the tendacy for people to, when disgusted with one extreme end of the spectrum, to swing all the way to the other extreme end of the specturm because they don't know how to use their brakes. A very common aspect of human nature, but that too can eventually lead to moderation by rocking from one side to the other until finding the center.
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when the new guy in charge tries to gain popularity with the people by declaring "more polygamy for everyone", you're really going to argue that this is about conditioning to brutality or mistrust ? or was Gaddafi's reign of terror particularly harsh about the "single partner marriage" issue ?
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2011-10-24, 12:35 | Link #17266 | |
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which shoots the whole "all people are created equal" idea that democracy is suppose to be all about in the foot. on the whole, this is a showing that the new boss is even LESS progressively minded then the old boss when it comes to gender roles (Gaddafi after all had his own personal Amazon brigade).
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2011-10-24, 13:01 | Link #17270 |
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Well well, so far he only said "polygamy", not polygyny or polyandry, meaning for both sexe.
Well ... though I can feel the "men only" soon. But whatever, just because they messed up now doesn't mean it will continue, each country, or should I say, each democracy so far had its failure. |
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Ok, you're right, my mistake.
i meant to say WITHOUT a Y chromosome. my point still stands though. in a time when the world looks to Libya to see what happens next, they make a declaration that's basically a step backwards. Quote:
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I don't think it does really. I don't think this is enough to outweigh all the gains in freedom from other areas, even for women. If it counts as a step backwards, then Libya has still made several steps forward. In any case my iniital point wasn't that it wsn't a step backwards but rather that this is really human nature and can be resolved in the future.
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only the future will tell what, if any, are the gains in other areas for everyone concerned. for now, they are off to a very bad start if their new leaders are to be believed.
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2011-10-24, 13:12 | Link #17276 |
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"when the political top dogs makes such declarations, its usually to get support from the PEOPLE for their new rule.
which means that its not the "new boss" thats the problem. its the employees." Regardless of your skepticism, the employees want more freedom and fair elections. We're taking about the flaws of the people, remember, not of the government.
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you can't take the good without the bad.
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Like I said, I think the good outweigh the bad.
In any case my initial point wasn't that it wasn't a step backwards (excuse the double negative) but rather that this is really human nature and can be resolved in the future.
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2011-10-24, 13:21 | Link #17279 | |
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"polygamy is wrong, don't do it" the issue has now being de-resolved (probably not really a word), and it casts a shadow over what should have been a joyful event. Libya being liberated and Gaddafi dying of natural causes (for a tyrant) should be an unambiguously happy occasion. but this development is something i find truly disturbing.
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2011-10-24, 13:26 | Link #17280 | |
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But yeah, like I said that tends to happen when swinging from one extreme end to the other. What I'm simply saying is that the point on the other side of the specturm they've fallen on is far less extreme than the one that was previously in place and it can be improved upon with time.
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