One Piece - Chapter 550 (manga)

[Kafriel]

I think Ace will sacrifice himself for his brother's or for WB's sake...he doesn't strike like the guy who wants to be saved, and with him choosing his own death, the war might still be avoided, the truth about Ace could still spread and the plot would still progress normally...
Not that I don't want Ace to live, but I haven't thought it out that much yet.

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

I think Ace will sacrifice himself for his brother's or for WB's sake...he doesn't strike like the guy who wants to be saved, and with him choosing his own death, the war might still be avoided, the truth about Ace could still spread and the plot would still progress normally...
Not that I don't want Ace to live, but I haven't thought it out that much yet.

Newgate would still attack the WG even if Ace offed himself. That is just what kind of man he is. I don't think there is a "might" at this point. Unless Oda just wanted to troll the hell out of us.

Originally Posted by shankss

Also I cant really see Ace going back to his normal life as a normal pirate anymore now that everyone knows his father was Roger.

What would it matter? this is a world where heroes are painted black with villainous colors and the vile scum are painted as heroes to the mindless masses.

If its fresh news to Whitebeard, Depending on Whitebeard's thoughts about Gol D Roger, he'd not allow his former rivals son in his army anymore.Maybe only to humiliate him.

I don't think its fresh news, to Newgate, and if it is he does not care, for Ace is his son and Ace sees Newgate as his father.

Not sure if Whitebeard enjoyed the rivalry between him and Roger but Roger won the world and WB left aside as the second strongest guy in his times until Roger died.Why would any pirate feel pity for his nemesis's son? Only if Whitebeard vs Roger were friendly rivals.

Newgates and Rogers rivalry wasn't a dirty one. If you go back and reread chapter 434 you would easily see that Newgate has/had respect for his deceased equal Roger, even tho he calls him a bastard.

[Rainbowman]

Since Sengoku revealed Ace's true past, this makes me wonder how long it would be until Whitebeard or some other character reveals Sengoku's true past. I mean Sengoku is said to be connected with Whitebeard and others back then.

[james0246]

Spoiler for Spoiler for 551:

Source: AP
Verification: Confirmed
Credits: blym

Cover story: Usopp fights a large bird.

Although Ace speaks of his ambition to make Whitebeard the Pirate King, Whitebeard acutally wants to help Ace become the Pirate King.

Luffy had met Ace at 3-5 years of age, and hence might realise that they are not related by blood.

The Marines already knew that Ace was Gol D. Roger's son 2 years after Ace left the village, but he was already under Whitebeard's charge.

The Gates of Justice are blown open by Whitebeard's crew, allowing Luffy's crew to charge in. Whitebeard's ship has broken the perimeter already.

Whitebeard's ship emerges from the waters, followed by the 14 division captains on 3 ships. Whitebeard disembarks alone.

The Shichibukai face off against 5-6 pirate crew captains from the New World. It turns out that they are allies with Whitebeard.

Garp remembers Portgas D. Rogue's face.

Some dialog from the end of the chapter:

"Well then...any last words?"

"Haven't met in a few decades, eh? Sengoku."
"My dear son is safe, isn't he?"

Whitebeard meets Ace's eye.

"Endure a bit more, Ace"
"Father!!!"

End.

[andy]

seems awesome going to have to wait a while longer to find out more stuff

[SMASHERJACKSON]

cant wait for tranlated scans of this ch, seems wb will die now

[Rurik]

Originally Posted by james0246

Spoiler for Spoiler for 551:

Some dialog from the end of the chapter:

"Well then...any last words?"

"Haven't met in a few decades, eh? Sengoku."
"My dear son is safe, isn't he?"

Whitebeard meets Ace's eye.

"Endure a bit more, Ace"
"Father!!!"

End.

It seems I was not mistaken...

Originally Posted by Rurik

If what WB tought about Ace is as the same as what Ace thought about WB (which Im positive it is), then WB don't see Ace as Rogers son, but he see him as His own son.

Spoiler:

Im surprised how fast WB reached Ace, which makes me wonder if this is also part of the Goverment plans

[shankss]

First showing Whitebeard as a zealotic idiot, then turning him into a touchy emotional father makes no sense to me.Whitebeard clearly stated that he doesnt care what happens to Ace as long as Blackbeard's dealt with so why he cares that much now? Where was his mind when a freaking yonkou personally warned him against Blackbeard? A real father figure should've cared about his sons safety at first place but our pirate king wannabe attacked another yonkou instead to kill time.

Dont go telling me that "he was thinking BB was barely a threat against Ace", if a yonkou comes just to tell that one would surely panic and at least send someone to warn ace.

Seems to me like WB is just pretending to impress the crowd by taking the roger's son...or maybe wants to personally execute ace in the name of their weirdo honor code.Time will tell...

[AddiKtioNn-BlaCk]

Originally Posted by shankss

First showing Whitebeard as a zealotic idiot, then turning him into a touchy emotional father makes no sense to me.Whitebeard clearly stated that he doesnt care what happens to Ace as long as Blackbeard's dealt with so why he cares that much now? Where was his mind when a freaking yonkou personally warned him against Blackbeard? A real father figure should've cared about his sons safety at first place but our pirate king wannabe attacked another yonkou instead to kill time.

Dont go telling me that "he was thinking BB was barely a threat against Ace", if a yonkou comes just to tell that one would surely panic and at least send someone to warn ace.

Seems to me like WB is just pretending to impress the crowd by taking the roger's son...or maybe wants to personally execute ace in the name of their weirdo honor code.Time will tell...

A few things wrong with what you said.
Where in the conversation between Whitebeard and Shanks did he say or implied he didn't care about Ace????
From what I got out of the conversation between Whitebeard and Red-Haired was that he (Whitebeard) is a man who stands firm in his morals...
Blackbeard committed a crime, and since he was under Ace's command, it was Ace;s responsibility to punish Blackbeard...
Whitebeard applies the same exact rule to himself...
When Ace is captured bound by his morals he's going to war against the World Government, regardless if Ace had died or not...
That's just part of his way of doing things...
Going by your standard, you might as well say Garp didn't care for Luffy's well-being, when he tossed in the jungle by himself and etc.

As far as he convo with Shanks goes...
Nobody knows how long ago the fight between Shanks and Blackbeard was...
Obviously Shanks wasn't a Yonkou and Blackbeard wasn't part of Whitebeard's crew....
Also you got to worry about "saving face"..
You cant show weakness in front of your enemy, or show favoritism among the crew mates...and on top of that, Pride, you think Whitebeard gonna listen to someone who is still a child (in his eyes)

[Master Mold]

Originally Posted by shankss

First showing Whitebeard as a zealotic idiot, then turning him into a touchy emotional father makes no sense to me.Whitebeard clearly stated that he doesnt care what happens to Ace as long as Blackbeard's dealt with so why he cares that much now?

What Manga have you been reading? Last time I checked Newgate is facing the WG to save Ace.......

Where was his mind when a freaking yonkou personally warned him against Blackbeard? A real father figure should've cared about his sons safety at first place but our pirate king wannabe attacked another yonkou instead to kill time.

You can't blame Newgate, Shanks talked about leaving Blackbeard alone.........if a guy killed one of YOUR sons, and some young punk told you to leave him alone you telling me you wouldn't be mad? Not to mention if it wasn't for Blackbeard hiding his strength for a decade he would be dead already. Ace's predicament happened for Blackbeard being the Thanos (aka a smart bastard) of the One Piece world, and fooling the Whitebeard Pirates for a 2nd time, this war might be a 3rd.

and IIRC Shanks was the one to draw his sword 1st.

Dont go telling me that "he was thinking BB was barely a threat against Ace", if a yonkou comes just to tell that one would surely panic and at least send someone to warn ace.

1st off even if Newgate took Shanks warnings about a guy Newgate thought he know better then Shanks, it was already two late for Ace met up with Blackbeard around the same time IIRC.

[Rurik]

Originally Posted by shankss

Spoiler:

Seems to me like WB is just pretending to impress the crowd by taking the roger's son...or maybe wants to personally execute ace in the name of their weirdo honor code.Time will tell...

Spoiler:

Dude, what sort of thinking is that? I mean, WB has raised Ace as his own, why Would WB show any feeling different from what he has suppossed to be as a Father? I think Oda is just showing up the strong Father-Son bond there is between WB and Ace, showing that WB is willing to create a war even risking his own life just for the sake of saving his son's life.

The fact that WB is doing this is just complementing what Ae has said a couple of time before, "I only have one father, and that is WB"

[marvelB]

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