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Wolfenstein · 2012-11-30, 13:12

Well, damn.

Now, I can't read japanese, but I don't have any reason to doubt a confirmation.

So I hope this Minuses/Pluses belonging to Tsurubami don't get swept away and are explained. :P

DawnEmperor · 2012-11-30, 13:32

Wow, we really barely know anything about Kamome(and he's become one of the major supporting characters!). Similar to Zenkichi and Shiranui, does he really have much of a connection to his father?

kenjtr · 2012-11-30, 13:37

Somehow this chapter gave me the feeling that someday zenkichi will turn to a great evil , zenkichi gives me same feeling as griffith .

Thth · 2012-11-30, 13:46

@kenjtr

Spoiler for oftopic:

RedKey · 2012-11-30, 13:48

I'm more concerned about the song, actually. Ok, it's Sukinasaki's, but why is Medaka singing that? Anything goes for a Style? I thought it needed certain word configurations.

I spent quite a long time searching for hidden meanings, word puns or references which would have been lost in translation, but I found nothing about toyboxes, gods and demons anywhere. Unlike Joutou's, which references old Japanese lullabies, it seems that her song is original. I just hope Nisio won't tell us many chapters later that it did actually contain important elements which I overlooked, at least not important enough to warrant a re-translation

chidorimen · 2012-11-30, 13:49

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Originally Posted by kenjtr

Somehow this chapter gave me the feeling that someday zenkichi will turn to a great evil , zenkichi gives me same feeling as griffith .

Okay I've been coming to this board for a while and never say anything, but because of you I felt the need to respond. Please stop with your annoyingly obvious terrible trolling.

Thth · 2012-11-30, 14:02

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Originally Posted by RedKey

I'm more concerned about the song, actually. Ok, it's Sukinasaki's, but why is Medaka singing that? Anything goes for a Style? I thought it needed certain word configurations.

I spent quite a long time searching for hidden meanings, word puns or references which would have been lost in translation, but I found nothing about toyboxes, gods and demons anywhere. Unlike Joutou's, which references old Japanese lullabies, it seems that her song is original. I just hope Nisio won't tell us many chapters later that it did actually contain important elements which I overlooked, at least not important enough to warrant a re-translation

She is singing about her box and how it is locked for two more years...

Well I am outta here

RedKey · 2012-11-30, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Thth

She is singing about her box and how it is locked for two more years...

Well I am outta here

Medaka's Box! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

DawnEmperor · 2012-11-30, 14:08

*Rimshot^

It all makes sense now, this is the true title drop!!

Tyabann · 2012-11-30, 14:20

I love how one of the Plus Six was brought up this chapter. Proof that Nisio hasn't completely forgotten about them, at least.

Guernsey · 2012-11-30, 14:36

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Originally Posted by DawnEmperor

*Rimshot^

It all makes sense now, this is the true title drop!!

It is finally beginning to make snese, now but still #&@# Nisio for actually making some sense,.

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I love how one of the Plus Six was brought up this chapter. Proof that Nisio hasn't completely forgotten about them, at least.

Whatever happened to them anyway?

CrazyPerson · 2012-11-30, 14:43

I'm actually surprised the plus six got referenced again. My take one the plus six was that they where meant to be ignored. In other shonen shows, if a character gets introduced with abilities and what not it usually means they'll get expanded on or fought against. Neither of those happened and they got forgotten because it's part of Nisio's tendency to be contrary.

Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?

RedKey · 2012-11-30, 14:55

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Originally Posted by CrazyPerson

Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?

Well, according to Fukurou this was all his plan to make Hansode stop being her double. All according to keikaku.

zeando · 2012-11-30, 17:46

about kamome having plusses and minuses, it could have just been some lent abilities from ajimu

Tyabann · 2012-11-30, 20:18

It's damn suspicious that we never saw that fight between him and Medaka. If nothing else we better get a flashback to it.

novalysis · 2012-11-30, 22:36

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Originally Posted by CrazyPerson

Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?

More and more human like. Though, even as early as Unzen, I think it is hinted that as much as Medaka tries to be like a human, odds are, she'd never truly be "human", just "Human-like."

Medaka is a class of being probably more closer than Ajimu in nature than any other character, besides Hanten.

Sol Falling · 2012-12-01, 03:19

Haha. I think the song thing is just build up to Medaka doing something epic. Sukinasaki Saki said that a song is to "shiver, cry, and feel with everybody", and Styles are about communication. Obviously then, if Medaka is singing that song, then she's about to make an attempt at that "communication". Basically, after being pushed back far enough to have to use War God mode to cancel out Joutou's style, Medaka's going to use her imperfect understanding of how styles operate to attempt a style of her own.

Is it possible for Medaka to communicate "passion"? Is it possible for her to understand a human heart? Why the hell not.

Anyway, I guess a literal translation of the song lyrics will be good enough, even if they do sound kinda awkward as a song in English. The use of the word "box" does seem kinda suspicious given that this manga is still called "Medaka Box", whereas that box itself has been discontinued since Medaka stopped being SC president. If the song means anything at all, I do feel that talk about "gods", "boxes", or "demons" will be appropriate to Medaka herself.

Homura7 · 2012-12-01, 05:43

Looks like Medaka is finally starting to graduate from being a monster to become more human-like. But she still has a long way to go.

jvcscasio · 2012-12-01, 16:30

I know Medaka is OP, I know learning new tecniques is the oldest clichè on the book...

But shit that was awesome!
Now Medaka will start learning styles!

Guernsey · 2012-12-02, 15:18

Spoiler for I am not surprised:

2012-11-30, 13:12	Link #11241
Wolfenstein Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	Well, damn. Now, I can't read japanese, but I don't have any reason to doubt a confirmation. So I hope this Minuses/Pluses belonging to Tsurubami don't get swept away and are explained. :P __________________

2012-11-30, 13:46	Link #11244
Thth ??? Join Date: Aug 2008	@kenjtr Spoiler for oftopic: Are you by any chance pwngoatvspandaman from Narutoforums? just curious

2012-12-02, 15:18	Link #11260
Guernsey The GAP Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Spoiler for I am not surprised: It was only a matter of time, Medaka is growing more poeerful by the minute and now she will truly become unbeatable. Well, at least she is becoming closer to being a 'human' than a 'monster'. __________________

2012-11-30, 13:32	Link #11242
DawnEmperor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere	Wow, we really barely know anything about Kamome(and he's become one of the major supporting characters!). Similar to Zenkichi and Shiranui, does he really have much of a connection to his father?

2012-11-30, 13:37	Link #11243
kenjtr Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Somehow this chapter gave me the feeling that someday zenkichi will turn to a great evil , zenkichi gives me same feeling as griffith .

2012-11-30, 13:48	Link #11245
RedKey 天界の異端審問官 Join Date: Apr 2011	I'm more concerned about the song, actually. Ok, it's Sukinasaki's, but why is Medaka singing that? Anything goes for a Style? I thought it needed certain word configurations. I spent quite a long time searching for hidden meanings, word puns or references which would have been lost in translation, but I found nothing about toyboxes, gods and demons anywhere. Unlike Joutou's, which references old Japanese lullabies, it seems that her song is original. I just hope Nisio won't tell us many chapters later that it did actually contain important elements which I overlooked, at least not important enough to warrant a re-translation

2012-11-30, 14:08	Link #11249
DawnEmperor Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Somewhere	*Rimshot^ It all makes sense now, this is the true title drop!!

2012-11-30, 14:20	Link #11250
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	I love how one of the Plus Six was brought up this chapter. Proof that Nisio hasn't completely forgotten about them, at least.

2012-11-30, 14:43	Link #11252
CrazyPerson Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007	I'm actually surprised the plus six got referenced again. My take one the plus six was that they where meant to be ignored. In other shonen shows, if a character gets introduced with abilities and what not it usually means they'll get expanded on or fought against. Neither of those happened and they got forgotten because it's part of Nisio's tendency to be contrary. Also, anyone feel like instead of a main character becoming more and more inhuman and powerful, Medaka starts off inhuman and gets more and more human as the story goes on?

2012-11-30, 17:46	Link #11254
zeando maybenotimome Join Date: Feb 2011	about kamome having plusses and minuses, it could have just been some lent abilities from ajimu

2012-11-30, 20:18	Link #11255
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	It's damn suspicious that we never saw that fight between him and Medaka. If nothing else we better get a flashback to it.

2012-12-01, 03:19	Link #11257
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	Haha. I think the song thing is just build up to Medaka doing something epic. Sukinasaki Saki said that a song is to "shiver, cry, and feel with everybody", and Styles are about communication. Obviously then, if Medaka is singing that song, then she's about to make an attempt at that "communication". Basically, after being pushed back far enough to have to use War God mode to cancel out Joutou's style, Medaka's going to use her imperfect understanding of how styles operate to attempt a style of her own. Is it possible for Medaka to communicate "passion"? Is it possible for her to understand a human heart? Why the hell not. Anyway, I guess a literal translation of the song lyrics will be good enough, even if they do sound kinda awkward as a song in English. The use of the word "box" does seem kinda suspicious given that this manga is still called "Medaka Box", whereas that box itself has been discontinued since Medaka stopped being SC president. If the song means anything at all, I do feel that talk about "gods", "boxes", or "demons" will be appropriate to Medaka herself.

2012-12-01, 05:43	Link #11258
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Looks like Medaka is finally starting to graduate from being a monster to become more human-like. But she still has a long way to go.

2012-12-01, 16:30	Link #11259
jvcscasio Lord of Lurkervile Join Date: Nov 2012	I know Medaka is OP, I know learning new tecniques is the oldest clichè on the book... But shit that was awesome! Now Medaka will start learning styles!