Fate/Apocrypha - Episode 25 [FINALE] Discussion / Poll

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Well, the Throne of Hero transcends time.
So even if Jeanne left, the throne still can responds to the summon by pulling out her data from the time frame when she is still there.

Yeah - the complexity of time travel.
The next question is also whether each reality has its own throne of heroes.

A short dialogue in Grand Order actually hints that this isn't the case, would however still make sense for some heroic spirits.

[XFire]

Noticed a lore discussion so popping back in.

The real Heroic Spirits at the Throne remember everything that happened in every summoning. But that data doesn't get taken with them in most cases when they get copied down to Servant level.

There is only one Throne, throughout the whole of the Nasuverse. Or at least throughout the main Fateverse Kaleidoscope since Prototype appears to be an entirely separate Kaliedoscope. Jeanne forced her way off of it by punching the metaphoorical wall in her way until it gave (see: "Heaven Sent" Doctor Who for a close approximation). There is no time on the Throne so she had an infinite amount of tries and the universe effectively gave up holding her back.

However, she left directly from the Throne, which again is outside of time. So relative to any point in the Kaleidoscope that does involve time, there is no real point at which she can't be summoned, unlike the weirdness with Saber that happened with Realta Nua. Which is why she shows up in FGO.

[shmaster]

Arturia's weirdness also has to do with her being alive.
So she isn't properly recorded into the Throne of Hero.
Instead, her summoning was faciliated by Araya who is playing outside the rule.

Merlin is a better case to compare with Arturia. Who is also never dead and plays outside the rule.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Yeah - the complexity of time travel.
The next question is also whether each reality has its own throne of heroes.

A short dialogue in Grand Order actually hints that this isn't the case, would however still make sense for some heroic spirits.

The Throne exists outside of everything. Beyond time, space, or even causality. Therefore, it would stand to reason that it contains every hero from every timeline, parallel world, and whatnot.

[Dengar]

There's also the fact that certain events are an inevitability and will happen no matter the timeline.

[rladls2121]

I finished re-watching Zero.
No, I haven't watch this yet.

I discovered this series because how Caster from Zero was so obsessive with this Jeanne, which why I searched it up, and led me to this conclusion.
Im going to watch this from now on.

Zero already made me cry a lot.
Someone tell me, will Apocrypha make me cry more or less than Zero?

[Dengar]

Ehhh probably not, but we don't know how your mind works, so... maybe?

[XFire]

Originally Posted by rladls2121

I finished re-watching Zero.
No, I haven't watch this yet.

I discovered this series because how Caster from Zero was so obsessive with this Jeanne, which why I searched it up, and led me to this conclusion.
Im going to watch this from now on.

Zero already made me cry a lot.
Someone tell me, will Apocrypha make me cry more or less than Zero?

Eh, most of the emotional blows involve the Servants, who can't actually die, and things never really get as dark as Zero. Jack's backstory is pretty messed up though, and Jeanne's fate is what drove Gilles insane in the first place.

[-gold-]

i just finished this anime and i gotta say i dont think it deserves all the hate it got, shiro wasreally cool in this, i loved how chill he was...i am sad that my favorite charecter dint get a happy ending (jack the ripper) but over all it was good

[orion]

Originally Posted by -gold-

i just finished this anime and i gotta say i dont think it deserves all the hate it got, shiro wasreally cool in this, i loved how chill he was...i am sad that my favorite charecter dint get a happy ending (jack the ripper) but over all it was good

She is the rage of aborted fetus and abused/killed children. That was the best that she's going to get. Besides Jack getting a good resolution means Atlanta doesn't go beserk.