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Hunter · 2009-06-23, 10:33

Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter.

As per the forums rules, please don't ask for or mention about where to download the (licensed) manga. Also remember not to post or link to any translations of the manga, since this is illegal as well. Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome) but please do not discuss scans, raws, translation groups, etc.

Remember that the manga is licensed, do not post significant part of the chapters. This stands for pictures and direct translations. Summaries are ok, crops of pictures are ok as well if you want to illustrate your point but this is it.

Rahan · 2009-06-23, 10:57

Summary of the chapter :

Spoiler for script of 453:

Spoiler for another translation of the ending:

Second translation is more interesting.
Madara needed Nagato's Rinne Tensei and apparently, is glad Nagato is out of the way. It's probably only Nagato getting the Itachi treatment though.

james0246 · 2009-06-23, 11:41

That is quite a bit of info for one little chapter. Here's hoping it is confirmed, because there is much we can talk about.

That being said, the spoiler seems a little...boring. It's one fo those "evrything is going according to the plan" spoilers, and I always find those uninteresting (the plans going awry are always more interesting than the plans going well). Here's hoping that Madara/Tobi is actually angry over Pain's demise, etc.

Super_Gilby · 2009-06-23, 12:10

Sasuke is bold if he is planning to assasinate the hokage at the kage summit... at the very least he should consider the raikage will attack him for sure but probably all the kage's will and 5 s class ninjas (well 4 for sure who knows how strong danzo will be) against 1 are not good odds unless Sasuke has a new super jutsu I cant wait to see what happens

That Other Ninja · 2009-06-23, 12:22

Eh? Having a plan would seem appropriate to attack when there are five Kage's gathered. The ambush plan kind if you know what I mean.

ultra_dragon · 2009-06-23, 12:28

Naruto's ultimate jutsu show us it's power again! lol, Naruto is a very dangerous ninja.

Rahan · 2009-06-23, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

Eh? Having a plan would seem appropriate to attack when there are five Kage's gathered. The ambush plan kind if you know what I mean.

Yeah, except Sasuke is supposed to be only against Danzou and not care about the others.

If he ambushes Danzou on the way to the summit, fine, it's the best move.
If not, well Sasuke better hopes ambushing Danzou surrounded by 4 kages (one wanting you dead for sure and the others considering you as your enemy since you are in Akatsuki) is easier than ambushing Danzou in the middle of a lot of fodder.

Sazelyt · 2009-06-23, 12:59

Sasuke will actually be helping Konoha if he decides to kill Hokage at the summit. If he is aware of that, then he is still a Konoha guy, deep inside. And it will be nice for them to meet, the one he wants dead and the one who made the order. Of course, as usual, I am not expecting anything less than Sasuke, such as drawing the best in his half-dead opponent and continuing the trend of his opponent getting self destruct, one way or another. I will definitely have some pop-corn ready for the time that Danzou meets his end in that kind of way.

Aelfis · 2009-06-23, 13:02

Hmm, i'm calling another Sasuke vs Gaara fight.

AuroraFlash · 2009-06-23, 13:17

Taka has no chance against the five Kages. Five Kage level guys, so called "Kages" against four fools and half a Zetsu? Do they want to die already?

SMASHERJACKSON · 2009-06-23, 13:26

insert death note pic + JUST AS PLANNED! >8D

Cub-Sama · 2009-06-23, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuroraFlash

Taka has no chance against the five Kages. Five Kage level guys, so called "Kages" against four fools and half a Zetsu? Do they want to die already?

3 fools, an avenge filled kirby and half a zetsu

AuroraFlash · 2009-06-23, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

3 fools, an avenge filled kirby and half a zetsu

Check.

They need strong plot device to win that one, but I guess Naruto and the brownies are going to interrupt that meeting and this could really be the end of the story... I still wonder where Madara and the other Zetsu go, but if he didn't join the Kage meeting, it would mean he's after Naruto.

Xellos-_^ · 2009-06-23, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahan

Summary of the chapter :

Spoiler for script of 453:

Spoiler for another translation of the ending:

Second translation is more interesting.
Madara needed Nagato's Rinne Tensei and apparently, is glad Nagato is out of the way. It's probably only Nagato getting the Itachi treatment though.

Someone remind me who Taka is?

kakakka · 2009-06-23, 13:59

It's Sasuke's group, I think.

james0246 · 2009-06-23, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

3 fools, an avenge filled kirby and half a zetsu

...and a Pizza Place.

Crimson Reaper · 2009-06-23, 14:07

I love how Naruto just blurts out one of Konoha's biggest secrets like it was nothing. Doesn't matter how that info might be used against him later. Into the Bingo book you go Naruto!

Sazelyt · 2009-06-23, 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Reaper

I love how Naruto just blurts out one of Konoha's biggest secrets like it was nothing.

A secret that almost every bad guy associated with Akatsuki should know, and almost all the people in Konoha know. The story even made Kyuubi a partner for Konoha to keep it secret for nearly 12 years. From a story point of view, the problem is how it stayed as a secret when so many people had known about it for a long time. There is a reason why Anbu masks are used even inside the village, in front of the people you are expected to trust.

Fran~ · 2009-06-23, 14:40

Nothing new, we all know that Madara will play with Sasuke in every way the mankind knows

We all know Naruto's "friendship jutsu" and Samui team are the new friends (what a funny bunch though

).

Well, Sasuke, be my guest, kill Danzou and seal your journey to the dark side (so much star wars for me

)

well... the "eye of the moon" seems to be the main goal here, thanks Kishi, you're doing right.

Rahan · 2009-06-23, 14:51

Yeah, Naruto being a jinchuuriki is only a secret to Naruto's generation. Everyone else knew ... A law made taboo to talk about it though. (but since no one is supposed to ignore the law, everyone knew)

The secret is that he is Yondaime's son, which is apparently, a much bigger deal.

About the chapter, is that too much to ask Madara to makes sense and not go "just as planned" when a jinchuuriki just made a fool of his new recruits when the other killed his strongest henchman, whom he needed for even another reason than his strength ?
Guess we are not supposed to take him seriously. Either that or the bijuu hunt is just a troll to make look like Naruto is important when the whole manga is about Sasuke since it's just as planned that the two strongest bijuus are still roaming free when he starts his new plan.

2009-06-23, 10:33	Link #1
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	[Manga] Chapter 453 Discussion Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter. As per the forums rules, please don't ask for or mention about where to download the (licensed) manga. Also remember not to post or link to any translations of the manga, since this is illegal as well. Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome) but please do not discuss scans, raws, translation groups, etc. Remember that the manga is licensed, do not post significant part of the chapters. This stands for pictures and direct translations. Summaries are ok, crops of pictures are ok as well if you want to illustrate your point but this is it.

2009-06-23, 10:57	Link #2
Rahan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France	Summary of the chapter : Spoiler for script of 453: Cover is Naruto. While Sasuke is racing to Konoha, Tobi warps in front of him. stuff happens Sasuke : Taka leaves the Akatsuki. Tobi : As I said before, betrayers dies ! Taka : ?! Tobi : It's really too bad, I had high hopes for you. Then talks about Killer Bee. Tobi : You almost got killed by the Eight Tails. Then when Tobi heard they're going to Konoha ... He tells them that Konoha no longer exists And that Tobi's subordinate, Pain, destroyed the village. Tobi : And that's not all. Thanks to you and Pain, they're going to be a Kage Summit. Then Zetsu comes. Tobi : What ? A new Hokage ? Zetsu : They choosed Danzou. Tobi : I knew it ! Sasuke : Danzou ... Tobi : One of thoses elders who blackmailed your brother. Then we see Naruto ... Karui/Omoi = We'll avenge our master, spit out intelligence about Sasuke ! Naruto feels sympathy about them because they lost their master. Naruto : Your master is a Jinchuuriki ? I'm a Jinchuuriki myself and I'd like to help you save him. Let's search for him together. We'll deal with Sasuke later, okay ? Tell everything you know about Akatsuki. Then they continue talking Then we get back to Sasuke. Taka's next move is ... attack the 5 Kage Summit and kill the new Hokage ! Zetsu splits in half ( ??? ) and the white Zetsu leads Sasuke. Dark Zetsu : I hope it will go well. Tobi : Yeah ... Spoilers guys talk about what they think about the story ... ( Nothing interesting really ) Tobi : Nagato died too ... He wasted Rinne Tensei, even though he was supposed to use it for me. It's because of Uzumaki Naruto ! Sasuke can become greater than Nagato ... I hope we can control Sasuke ... Tobi : The plan is going like planned. We must continue the Eyeball plan ! Then we see SUNA and guess what FUCKING GAARA RETURNS ! He's going to the Kage Summit ! Then we see Kankuro and Gaara tells him he doesn't need him as a bodyguard. Spoiler for another translation of the ending: んでサスケに戻って It returns to Sasuke これから鷹は五影会談の所で火影を殺す！！ Taka will mobilize to kill the Hokage at the 5-Kage summit! ゼツが半分になって白いほうがサスケ達を会談が行われる場所に案内へ Zetsu splits into two, and has his white half show Sasuke's group where the talks will take place 黒いゼツ　ウマクイッタナ Dark Zetsu: Masterfully done トビ　　　ああ Tobi: I know くそ長いから省略な Here's some excerpts of it since it was so freakin' long: 長門が死ぬシナリオもあったのか～ Did you plan for Nagato to die as well? 俺の為に使うはずだった輪廻天生を使われてしまったのは～ The Rinne-tensei, which would have been done for my sake, was unforutunately used for...~ うずまきナルトせいで少しくるったな～ We're even closer thanks to Uzumaki Naruto~ サスケは長門以上になるのか～ Will Sasuke be better than Nagato?~ サスケをうまくコントロール～ ...control Sasuke well...~ トビ今まで虎視眈々と進めていたが　月の眼計画をはやく進める！！！！！！ Tobi: I've been biding my time but now we shall quickly commence forward with the "Eye of the Moon" project! Second translation is more interesting. Madara needed Nagato's Rinne Tensei and apparently, is glad Nagato is out of the way. It's probably only Nagato getting the Itachi treatment though. Last edited by Rahan; 2009-06-23 at 12:48.

2009-06-23, 12:22	Link #5
That Other Ninja That Other Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Michael Dudikoff's American Ninja Dojo Age: 40	Eh? Having a plan would seem appropriate to attack when there are five Kage's gathered. The ambush plan kind if you know what I mean. __________________

2009-06-23, 13:17	Link #10
AuroraFlash good-natured spirit Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dancing with the devil	Taka has no chance against the five Kages. Five Kage level guys, so called "Kages" against four fools and half a Zetsu? Do they want to die already? __________________

2009-06-23, 14:40	Link #19
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	Nothing new, we all know that Madara will play with Sasuke in every way the mankind knows We all know Naruto's "friendship jutsu" and Samui team are the new friends (what a funny bunch though ). Well, Sasuke, be my guest, kill Danzou and seal your journey to the dark side (so much star wars for me ) well... the "eye of the moon" seems to be the main goal here, thanks Kishi, you're doing right. __________________ Improving my english ^^

2009-06-23, 11:41	Link #3
james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	That is quite a bit of info for one little chapter. Here's hoping it is confirmed, because there is much we can talk about. That being said, the spoiler seems a little...boring. It's one fo those "evrything is going according to the plan" spoilers, and I always find those uninteresting (the plans going awry are always more interesting than the plans going well). Here's hoping that Madara/Tobi is actually angry over Pain's demise, etc.

2009-06-23, 12:10	Link #4
Super_Gilby Shadow Of Death Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina	Sasuke is bold if he is planning to assasinate the hokage at the kage summit... at the very least he should consider the raikage will attack him for sure but probably all the kage's will and 5 s class ninjas (well 4 for sure who knows how strong danzo will be) against 1 are not good odds unless Sasuke has a new super jutsu I cant wait to see what happens

2009-06-23, 12:28	Link #6
ultra_dragon Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Naruto's ultimate jutsu show us it's power again! lol, Naruto is a very dangerous ninja.

2009-06-23, 12:59	Link #8
Sazelyt Μ ε r c ü r υ Join Date: Jun 2004	Sasuke will actually be helping Konoha if he decides to kill Hokage at the summit. If he is aware of that, then he is still a Konoha guy, deep inside. And it will be nice for them to meet, the one he wants dead and the one who made the order. Of course, as usual, I am not expecting anything less than Sasuke, such as drawing the best in his half-dead opponent and continuing the trend of his opponent getting self destruct, one way or another. I will definitely have some pop-corn ready for the time that Danzou meets his end in that kind of way.

2009-06-23, 13:02	Link #9
Aelfis Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Hmm, i'm calling another Sasuke vs Gaara fight.

2009-06-23, 13:26	Link #11
SMASHERJACKSON Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	insert death note pic + JUST AS PLANNED! >8D

2009-06-23, 13:59	Link #15
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	It's Sasuke's group, I think.

2009-06-23, 14:07	Link #17
Crimson Reaper Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England	I love how Naruto just blurts out one of Konoha's biggest secrets like it was nothing. Doesn't matter how that info might be used against him later. Into the Bingo book you go Naruto!

2009-06-23, 14:51	Link #20
Rahan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France	Yeah, Naruto being a jinchuuriki is only a secret to Naruto's generation. Everyone else knew ... A law made taboo to talk about it though. (but since no one is supposed to ignore the law, everyone knew) The secret is that he is Yondaime's son, which is apparently, a much bigger deal. About the chapter, is that too much to ask Madara to makes sense and not go "just as planned" when a jinchuuriki just made a fool of his new recruits when the other killed his strongest henchman, whom he needed for even another reason than his strength ? Guess we are not supposed to take him seriously. Either that or the bijuu hunt is just a troll to make look like Naruto is important when the whole manga is about Sasuke since it's just as planned that the two strongest bijuus are still roaming free when he starts his new plan.