Aldnoah.Zero - Character Discussion - Slaine Troyard

[Kairin]

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[jeroz]

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He is (un)surprisingly the most popular figure under the AZ tag on Pixiv at the moment

[Thess]

Twitter is all over him too.



Also, he got the first piece of merchandise that isn't a picture file. His charm will be for sale this September.

[Triple_R]

If Valvrave's L-Elf and Haruto somehow had a child together, that child would probably be a lot like Slaine.

[tsunade666]

lol, why do I agree with that one

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If Valvrave's L-Elf and Haruto somehow had a child together, that child would probably be a lot like Slaine.

You mean the second born one, because there's already the mysterious prince of mysterious origin in the show itself.

Seems like the Slaine fans are very dedicated already. I've seen nico stuff with him and now this:

[Fireminer]

It's like Lelouch and Light all over again, but with Slaine doesn't inherit the brain and mysterious aura - Inaho does.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Thess

You mean the second born one, because there's already the mysterious prince of mysterious origin in the show itself.

Yeah, he's like the prince's more soft-hearted younger brother.

But anyway, I'm hoping that if perhaps Slaine is able to get into the pilot's chair, he can be the brawn to Inaho's brain. So far, he's only piloted the plane, but I don't think it will be long until he will pilot a kataphrakt on his own too.

Also, speaking of princes. I'm still of the suspicion that Slaine is connected to the royal family in some way. I still think his appointment as the Princess' tutor and his sort of favor with the royal family isn't just because a ten year old girl happened to like him. I mean, it's also interesting that the emperor, Asseylum, and Slaine all have this similar blond hair/greenish eyes look. But we'll have to see as the show goes on. That's just my thoughts.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

But anyway, I'm hoping that if perhaps Slaine is able to get into the pilot's chair, he can be the brawn to Inaho's brain. So far, he's only piloted the plane, but I don't think it will be long until he will pilot a kataphrakt on his own too.

He's Intuition to Inaho's Logic apparently. So his role would be probably unearthing the conspiracy.

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Also, speaking of princes. I'm still of the suspicion that Slaine is connected to the royal family in some way. I still think his appointment as the Princess' tutor and his sort of favor with the royal family isn't just because a ten year old girl happened to like him. I mean, it's also interesting that the emperor, Asseylum, and Slaine all have this similar blond hair/greenish eyes look. But we'll have to see as the show goes on. That's just my thoughts.

If they are related, it's likely some distant relation.

By the way, slightly off topic, but did I ever tell people the episodes titles are references to fictional works: ballets, books, etc? Just Gen being pretentious as usual in this.

There are two titles. One in English and one in Japanese, one of them is usually a reference. In Episode 1 title, the one in Japanese "The Princess of Mars", aside of describing the obvious, is a reference to a sci-fi war love story about a story of a Earthling who was transported to Mars and a Martian Princess. Of course the characters are unrelated, but it's interesting to know its reference while, for instance, the second one: Beyond the Horizon is a reference to a war story about two siblings (perhaps addressing the relationship between Yuki and Inaho since she got a lot of spotlight), framed as a wartime family drama and the episode had a lot of family drama right? Siblings and Rayet's father. Just speculating here some atmosphere or intention framed by the titles. I have not yet found the reference of episode 5, but it's likely the Japanese title this time.

The third one: The Children's Echeion is about a war scalating in the background and, through a series of successive diaries entries, Bernies changes her opinion about everything she knows: war, family, her friends. This could be about either Rayet, Slaine or Asseylum (most likely Rayet) who gets this taste. It's in general a story about children in middle of war, so the overall framing fits.

Point of No Return can be a reference either to the Phantom of the Opera (doubtful) or a ballet, or a film and novel also about war (most likely, likewise a reference to continue the course of action because is impossible to take it back). The other title official translation will depend if it's a reference or not.

Spoiler for Spoiler for episodes 5 and 6 title:

Episode 6 is title "Island of Memory/Recollection" (Japanese) and Steel Step Suite (English). Steel Step is a ballet about a pair of lovers (a sailor and a factory working girl) who are separated and then reunited in midst of the changes of industrialization and cold war scenario in Communist Russia. The suite is danced in the final act after they are finally reunited and are trying to reconnect since they changed in their absence. What I hope this episode aside of mecha battle is to have flashbacks, specially of Slaine, but of other characters would be cool too. Like Yuki's.

I ignore episode 5 reference (Phantom of the Emperor - Audience with the Ruler/Majesty/In front of the Audience etc), but I'll find out.

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If Valvrave's L-Elf and Haruto somehow had a child together, that child would probably be a lot like Slaine.

I think differently, I'll say Slaine is probably what Haruto will be like if he switch place with L-elf. Haruto is taken as a Dorssian's PoW and while Inaho is L-elf having a better childhood as well as being in high school with normal friends. Either that or L-elf failed to pass down his superior gene.

I do have to say one good thing about the Martian though, I'm very fond of these Martian's military uniform(I wonder why it always the bad guy has the best looking uniform while the good one has the very unappealing one).

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Thess

Point of No Return can be a reference either to the Phantom of the Opera (doubtful) or a ballet, or a film and novel also about war (most likely, likewise a reference to continue the course of action because is impossible to take it back). The other title official translation will depend if it's a reference or not.

Let'see:

Spoiler for Point of No Return:

Point of No Return is a 1949 novel by John P. Marquand about an upper middle-class banker in his forties, back from the war, resuming his place in an old, small, traditional New York City bank in 1947. A large part of the novel, however, is devoted to his youth, family life, and first romance, using the "flashback technique" that Marquand made famous in all of his best books.

Point of No Return is a 1995 Australian film about an ex soldier who escapes from prison to investigate his brother's murder.

Both sound plausible. Alternatively, it could also refer to the 1993 remake of Nikita.

[BPD Renegade]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

I do have to say one good thing about the Martian though, I'm very fond of these Martian's military uniform(I wonder why it always the bad guy has the best looking uniform while the good one has the very unappealing one).

Slaine's uniform is alright, but for some reason the Counts' uniforms never fail to remind me of Dr. Eggman. Must be the wide hips

But I hope we see Slaine's character grow in a positive direction. I like him as he is now, since I'm anticipating for him to develop more courage and begin to stand his ground as the season continues. However, as it's going now, it's also possible for the writers to turn him into some sort of unstable nut with no self-control.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

I do have to say one good thing about the Martian though, I'm very fond of these Martian's military uniform(I wonder why it always the bad guy has the best looking uniform while the good one has the very unappealing one).

Gundam tradition. See Zeon uniforms vs the Federation ones.

Edit: Official ad of Slaine's charm.

[jeroz]

I'm smelling another Sayaka in the works.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by jeroz

I'm smelling another Sayaka in the works.

Slaine acts nothing like Sayaka (Asseylum or Inko remind me of her, on the other hand). If you want to use Urobuchi standards (which are irrelevant because he's not writing anymore and the screenplay is by another guy, plus his characterization was decided by the director, Aoki Eri), he seems a cross of Waver and braided Homura.

[jeroz]

This is Slaine that we are talking about here, one whose obsession in his own quest will eventually lead to his own downfall. Ep4 already laid out a misunderstanding chasm that will no doubt play a big role later on within the ranks.

He's not meek nor passive like the ones you listed. In fact, he's the exact opposite.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by jeroz

This is Slaine that we are talking about here, one whose obsession in his own quest will eventually lead to his own downfall.

I don't see any hint to his downfall right now. I think you're jumping to conclusions.

Originally Posted by jeroz

Ep4 already laid out a misunderstanding chasm that will no doubt play a big role later on within the ranks.

What misunderstanding?

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Thess

Slaine acts nothing like Sayaka (Asseylum or Inko remind me of her, on the other hand). If you want to use Urobuchi standards (which are irrelevant because he's not writing anymore and the screenplay is by another guy, plus his characterization was decided by the director, Aoki Eri), he seems a cross of Waver and braided Homura.

Since we're talking about Urobuchi, I'm wondering if Slaine will tread down Kariya's path.
By that I mean giving his all to protect someone only to ....
I mean, the guy has the makings of a moe suffering magnet

[Thess]

Originally Posted by jeroz

This is Slaine that we are talking about here, one whose obsession in his own quest will eventually lead to his own downfall. Ep4 already laid out a misunderstanding chasm that will no doubt play a big role later on within the ranks.

What misunderstanding? He understood the situation fairly well. What downfall? He's only trying to find the ringleader of the conspiracy.

Waver and Homura were trying to prove themselves, similar to Slaine. Homura had an actual downfall, Waver succeeded.

Originally Posted by jeroz

He's not meek nor passive like the ones you listed. In fact, he's the exact opposite.

None of the ones I listed remained meek and passive. Slaine was meek and passive and he's developing. He's not self-righteous like Sayaka of being right, he's insecure like Waver and Homura.

Originally Posted by Key Board

Since we're talking about Urobuchi, I'm wondering if Slaine will tread down Kariya's path.
By that I mean giving his all to protect someone only to ....
I mean, the guy has the makings of a moe suffering magnet

For the last time, Urobuchi isn't active in the project any longer as far as we know, plus his character sheet had Aoki Eri (who calls the shots) saying he decided on Slaine's characterization. Kariya was filled with jealousy at the core, while Eri describes Slaine was kinderhearted at his core (and Inaho has a lot of strong feelings he's suppressing).

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by jeroz

I'm smelling another Sayaka in the works.

Don't be fooled by Slaine's final scene in Episode 4. Slaine is aware that Asseylum is alive, so he obviously isn't really trying to avenge her death. Slaine's just acting tough and passionately justice-driven so he can win over Cruhteo in order get back out there on the front lines, probably in the hopes of finding Asseylum somewhere.

Now take away Slaine's act here, and he's very different from Sayaka.

Slaine is much more cautious, and much less firm in violent situations. That's not to take anything away from either him or Sayaka, as there are pros and cons for both characters here. I'm just pointing out how the two characters are very different.