Suisei no Gargantia - Episode 6 Discussion / Poll

[apotheosis]

Originally Posted by ChainLegacy

I'm starting to get a little worried, too. They really hooked me in with the early episodes and now it feels like they've gone on some completely different track. I wouldn't say I outright disliked this or the previous episode, but I'm definitely not impressed. Originally, I was very intrigued by the backdrop of the plot. Hopefully the psuedo-hideauze creature seen at the end of this episode will serve as a launchpad to get back into that 'lore' of the series.

Agreed. At least this episode had a bit more interesting conversation than last & some comedy with the fishes.

The hook at the end is intrigueing ... whether its really a hideauze or not, I hope it marks the start of something deeper as well.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by kyp275

Reading through this thread makes me think some people would be happier if every female characters are fully wrapped from head to toe and act like nuns. Some people IMO takes political correctness entirely way too far.

That said, glad to see the story turning its focus on the space-squid threat, it's about time.

I wouldn't care if Bellows thought a bikini was perfectly normal work attire. Or even if they had a dance festival where everyone danced.

But yeah, I have to admit - 16 years old belly dancers are a bit much for me. Especially with the camera angles.

[Cloudedmind]

I'm interested to know what people think the "real" plot is. Personally I think it's Ledo learning how to be a human being and just not a product of his military conditioning. So with that in mind, I don't think these last two episodes have deviated from the plot. Last episode Ledo try's to find his purpose, this episode he's still looking for a purpose, and possibly experiences sexual attraction for the first time. These are all part of his character development. That's not to say these were great episodes, although I did enjoy them for the most part. So when people make comments about the show getting back to the plot it makes me wonder, what show are you guys watching exactly. ^_^;; To me the hideaze are not the focus of the show, yes they are important because they are a part of the world that Ledo comes from that shaped who he is, but they are not the main focus. Although, like many of you I do find them interesting and wonder where they come from and all that.

Also was this the first episode in which Ledo smiles, albeit it was a bit forced? We only really see it for like a split second because then he and Amy get interrupted by her friends.

[Izayoi]

This whole thread seems to be just about the fan service that hardly bothered me. With the character design and all, it would be odd not to expect fan service. I admit there were more fanservices in this episode than usual but it shouldn't be that surprising. In addition, the dance was well animated and was quite enticing when mixed with the music and mood. Overall, it was an excellent episode.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Believe it or not Bellows is 18 years old. Rakage is 19 years old.

Given the fact the fleet council asked for Amy's input on the stranger and she is already a full time contributor to society it might be argued Amy is already an adult by Gargantian standards.

Notice Ledo observation that kids are free to play where as people his age work. Melty is 14 so beginning 13 or 14 an individual should start to contribute to the community.

[jeroz]

After so many years, Ledo finally reached puberty.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by jeroz

After so many years, Ledo finally reached puberty.

And that actually makes me thankful that we have a 16-year-old space soldier as protagonist, not 30 or older .

[taofd]

Originally Posted by OliverTwist

I'll give this 1 more episode because it looks like something might finally be happening, but if it's a red herring I think I'm done with the series. It hasn't turned out to be anything like what I was expecting after the first 2 episodes.

I'd be more interested if it didn't look like everything from this point on was gonna be driven by Ledo protecting the generic love interest Amy.

I liked Kamichu actually... but it's really not a fair comparison. The characters in Gargantia is fine, where the plot is headed is not. IMHO, after an excellent first episode, and even follow up 2nd episode, it is an utter waste for this show to become fan service fodder.

Episode 5 wasn't even that bad for me, but two episodes in a row of pure fan service is really pushing it. Maybe it's my fault for coming into this show expecting a sophisticated Sci-Fi Urobucho series.

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by taofd

Episode 5 wasn't even that bad for me, but two episodes in a row of pure fan service is really pushing it. Maybe it's my fault for coming into this show expecting a sophisticated Sci-Fi Urobucho series.

From the very beginning I thought this was a show about Ledo adapting to the life in Gargantia (hint: title). I'm not disappointed at all because so far I'm getting what I was expecting. And while I agree that the 5th episode was mostly filler this 6th episode is not because we see important steps being taken by Ledo on its path to find a place in this new world.

[zztop]

Fun fact: Ledo's seaweed bread strongly resembles prata/roti canai, an Indian-influenced flatbread from Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia.
It goes very well with most curries, although it stands pretty well by itself too.



Has anyone here ever had prata before?

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by zztop

Has anyone here ever had prata before?

Yup. It’s already delicious as a standalone food. But it's even more so if you add toppings of your choice (cheese, chocolate, sambal, meat, etc).

But I think what Ledo ate looks more fluffy than your usual prata.

[jeroz]

I can accept people using"not enough character development" as a reason for not liking ep5.
but seriously? when we saw plenty of growth from Ledo this episode character wise you still complain?

Edit: no pun intended
Edit2: fluff it, pun intended.

[Pong]

All this bitching about fanservice makes me wonder how warped and unhealthy is a culture that views sexuality as something dirty and shameful and showing it of as degrading and objectifying.

Compared to that, people of Gargantia have it all figured out.

[j4c06]

Let me guess: the Hideauze evolved from marine life on Earth. This will create a conflict in Ledo's already troubled mind.

Or, maybe when he jumped through the wormhole he ended up in humanity's past where the Hideauze are still merely sea life, and he can help humans coexist with them rather than create the future enemy.

Better still, he will be the catalyst in creating the Hideauze from the (still friendly) sea creatures.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Believe it or not Bellows is 18 years old. Rakage is 19 years old.

Seriously? I thought they were in their twenties at least. That's pretty ridiculous especially for Rakage/Lacage.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by j4c06

Let me guess: the Hideauze evolved from marine life on Earth. This will create a conflict in Ledo's already troubled mind.

Or, maybe when he jumped through the wormhole he ended up in humanity's past where the Hideauze are still merely sea life, and he can help humans coexist with them rather than create the future enemy.

Better still, he will be the catalyst in creating the Hideauze from the (still friendly) sea creatures.

Yeah, that last scene should make things pretty interesting now that we've gotten a chance to set things up character wise. At the very least data wise that is a Hideauze, but a lot of possibilities still attached to that. Maybe they did evolve from the armine life on Earth. It could be dangerous, but maybe those that remained in their natural environment are peaceful. If those things could evolve to survive in space who knows what happened to their behavior once they got there.

Of course plenty of options left like time travel, etc, so will be fun to see what happens next. Could see him going on a bit of a crusade though, diving into the sea hunting for Hideauze.

[Iron Maw]

Better than last week IMO. Much more substantial progress in both in terms character development for Ledo and the plot in general. I also noticed in some parts pf Ledo's dialogue he's speaks fairly fluently which is a nice touch if intention. Fanservice was notably more "in face your face" this time around, but still prefer it this way instead nearly an episode being about it.

Count me in as one of those who predicted the a Hideauze being on earth, even fact that was probably weak one.

[maximilianjenus]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

From the very beginning I thought this was a show about Ledo adapting to the life in Gargantia (hint: title). I'm not disappointed at all because so far I'm getting what I was expecting. And while I agree that the 5th episode was mostly filler this 6th episode is not because we see important steps being taken by Ledo on its path to find a place in this new world.

Ledo is an otaku who is adapting to the outside world; though in fact it is more general and for me the series work as a coming of age plot. the thing with the squids is that we don't know if there is a 99% chance of them being hideauze or if they are 99% hideauze genetically speaking, the latter might mean that they are the monkeys to the hideauze humans, but I prefer the former because it might force ledo to kill the hideauze thus having a big impact on the ecosystem of earth, which ads a pollution/humans ruining the planet sub plot to the anime.

Will ledo kill the hideauze even if that risks ruining the balance of earth's ecosystem, to fulfill humanity's goal of exterminating the hideauze , or will he value humanity itself more than humanity's goal ?

[ahelo]

Mor's dance should've been like Amy's dance.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Believe it or not Bellows is 18 years old. Rakage is 19 years old.

Given the fact the fleet council asked for Amy's input on the stranger and she is already a full time contributor to society it might be argued Amy is already an adult by Gargantian standards.

Notice Ledo observation that kids are free to play where as people his age work. Melty is 14 so beginning 13 or 14 an individual should start to contribute to the community.

That is very observant of you Red. People tend to forget that once upon a time if your old enough to do work then you were considered an adult by most cultural standards. Even in today's world there are still places that hold on to these concepts.