2012-09-23, 13:41 | Link #101 |
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From what I've read and notes from the author, he has not confirmed any connections between SAO and Accel World. The only time they ever intersected was during Versus, and it was speculated by SAO scientists that they were connected to an alternate universe, or confirmed. An alternate universe.
I'd understand if you said that the worlds are tens of years apart - it's still an acceptable enough theory - but to forcefully link Kirito/Asuna to KYH at the assumption that they were parent/child is rather... forceful. For one, Kirito/Asuna already have Yui. Sure, Spoiler for Yui's true identity:
but that already creates a hole in the above theory. Where has Yui gone? In fact, where has all of the SAO characters gone - there's at least ten to twenty of them, and Kirito has a shit load of harem going on with him too - they were pretty famous as some of them are SAO victims, and to have not a single mention about any of them in Accel World when the two worlds are supposedly connected is... weird at best. Suppose that they were gone because of a terrible incident, then the author must have at least mention of a 'certain incident' tens of years ago in the novel, but that never happened. Suppose that it was covered up. Haru might seem the type who 'doesn't want to dig his nose into someone else's privacy', but his friend Cyan Pike isn't, and at one point of time Cyan Pike had wanted to kill KYH, so he must've at least investigated about her past during or after that time. But the results are nil, and so far not a light has been shed on KYH's past. In fact, we have to consider that no matter how shitty KYH and White Cosmos are in the past, Kirito and Asuna are not the kind of person to just let their kids live randomly on their own without any contact. We have to assume then that something has happened to them, or they're dead. That leaves 2 options: Either Accel World is about the epic story of saving SAO's protagonist who're KYH's parents - which would suck btw, this is a good enough novel to stand on its own without tying in MCs from another novel - or the dead end, which would make SAO a completely tragic story since it'll ultimately end with Kirito and Asuna's death (and maybe even other SAO characters), and since they're dead they probably won't even get much mention in Accel World except maybe a few chapters, with KYH's past still the main priority and not them. Which would suck honestly, but it does make good drama. Depends on whether the author is a sadist, I suppose. There are also many circumstantial evidences that can be used - for example, in SAO Volume 10 Alicization Running, where the concept AI was heavily discussed, though I won't say a thing here since it's heavy spoilers - to contradict that the 2 worlds were connected to each other in any way at all, because there were several events and phenomenons that - if the two worlds are really just twenty years apart - SHOULD have happened, but did not. But in the end, these are all just speculations. |
2012-09-23, 17:00 | Link #102 | |
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2012-09-23, 17:09 | Link #103 |
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We could also turn that whole dead theory around and say...
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But to be honest I just like the possibility of the two series being chronological. I can do away with the whole KYH = KiriAsu daughter stuff if its so contentious.
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2012-09-25, 01:44 | Link #105 |
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Well, i have been reading through all of this and i just have one question, could it just possibly be that the creator of Brain Burst the game or accel world is kirito? i mean before SAO started you can see he is a natural geek that was very well informed with the technology and a lot of his references lead me to believe he tried to recreate something that he loved from his childhood and perhaps tried to create a world like AW to co-exist with the real world
this is just my opinion since everyone is dying to meet the creator of the game |
2012-09-25, 05:47 | Link #106 | |
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I'm not entirely sure he fits the profile, when you consider that this is software that can only be used by small children at the time it's first created. Kirito seems rather more self-aware than that, or at very least unlikely to be the sort to walk down exactly the same path as Kayaba. I don't discount him somehow being involved somewhere along the line, though.
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2012-09-26, 00:42 | Link #110 |
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If Kirito(or not) is involved, it's sad he's not interfering online bully and offline bully. Noumi's brother made threat to Noumi, so Noumi had to earn points for his brother. Some people are not interest in the game. They just want to rip the benefit from App, the side benefit of the game. If Kirito's involved, what's the role for Asuna? Don't they want to introduce the special combo attack for couples?
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2012-09-26, 19:54 | Link #113 |
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well if you want to go down that path, if his mother really died he may be traumatized that maybe if he was more like his father he wouldve been able to save his mother? idk, and for that reason he is constantly trying to catch up to his father who if it is kirito then we all know that he is one hell of a swordsman and goes with the color black often
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2012-10-02, 17:57 | Link #114 |
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Just read a review for AW and SAO from Kotaku by the same guy and it brought up an old point I can't help but continue to revisit, and that is that I'll never understand why when it comes to comparisons between SAO and AW in retrospectives how Accel World regularly gets lambasted and relegated for having a weaker second half (god forbid if that's it's greatest shortcoming) than the first while Sword Art Online more or less gets away with having some extremely weak and poorly fit in side story based episodes strewn throughout it's run so far and yet it's held up at the moment as this amazing, masterful, smart, thoughtful and sharply adapted anime that's at the tip top of it's game, while it's IMO glaring if non-fatal issues are just conveniently overlooked for the most part by pundits. Not trying to hate on SAO here but to me it's problems as an anime adaptation and overall story are regularly way more glaring and problematic to my enjoyment of it than AW's yet AW's comparatively meagre shortcomings get held against it that much more wherever I go. Is hype really that powerful a tool for overcoming harsher criticism cause that's what this continues to look like here to me?
Honestly the biggest issue with the Noumi arc the way I saw it was that it spans 2 novels and is drawn out in comparison to the prior two which lasted one novel a piece since it's supposed to be the first major expansion of the scope of the story. It's unfortunate that the manner in which they were adapting the show had to result in the Noumi arc taking up the entire second cour and that that was the one it ended it's run on. Really what is held to be AW's greatest weakness is a direct result of it being too faithful and dedicated an adaptation, while to me SAO has the opposite approach. Just get through things as fast as possible and try to cover as much novel content as can be covered in 25 episodes and only really bring out the top notch direction, pacing and writing for the most popular and key parts of the novel. Also notable is that when Accel World had it's first side story arc I didn't even know it and was shocked to find out that Aqua Current was from volume 10, whereas every time SAO enters a side story arc I know it within the first 10 minutes of an episode just based on how much more lackluster the script and pacing comes across. Again not trying to hate on SAO, but I'm growing tired of seeing AW compared unfavourably to SAO in aspects where I think it actually does way better when you step back to really examine things as they actually are in the adaptation without the hype goggles on. It's really not that justifiable. |
2012-10-02, 19:30 | Link #115 |
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This is more likely in anime adaptation a sequel is tend to get negative opinion than the prequel, I won't be discussing it, I'll be focus on AW and SAO.
Basically AW suffer for becoming a sequel from SOA, I don't know if it's related but they air AW first and then SAO come following, maybe it's their strategy to overcome that myth above. A good example for this would be Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero. Fate Stay Night would be get a negative opinion if it's compared to Fate Zero in assumption Fate Zero aired first. |
2012-10-04, 09:05 | Link #116 | |
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2012-10-04, 18:29 | Link #117 |
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or it's more like Accel World is in an alternate reality related to SAO. I also read the Crossover Story with SAO and Accel World. they kind of explained Accel World being an alternate reality, but saying it's in the future still makes sense. I'm more on the side of the alternate reality. (Haruyuki vs Kirito was badass btw). The story spoils a bit on the SAO side but still doesnt hurt to read honestly.
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2012-10-11, 09:32 | Link #119 | |
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Originally, he wrote SAO to submit to a japanese LN competition... this didn't work out because SAO ended up being so long and Japanese literary competitions are very strict on page limits (120 pages I believe it was?). so he ends up publishing SAO online and decides to more or less say "F- it, I like this story, and I want to keep writing it to see how it all pans out". Come several years later, SAO's online publication ends up being pretty popular, and the author decides to give the same competition another chance. because it would be PAINFUL to try to edit down SAO to fit the page limit, he decides to write an ALTERNATIVE story more or less based on the same premises. that story turned out to be AW and it won the grand prize. Banzai!!! How this this information all work out? well, to write a compelling story, sufficient background information needs to be established. Rather than explaining it like he did in SAO, I think the author was able to condense most of that information in AW because he already have most of it worked out in SAO. in a sense, regardless of whether the author decides if SAO and AW are in the save universe or not, they already are in the same world in spirit. As for the timeline for Kirito/Asuna to be KYH's parents, SAO started in 2025, and AW something like 2042? the timeline does work out... though there's definitely a lot of things that have not being worked out... KYH does have the right personality, and fighting Kirito in the crossover did remind Haru of KYH... Normally, I would say that due to time line issues, it would be likely that the author decides to reveal some direct relationship between the two stories as the SAO timeline continues (as it'll eventually overlap with the beginning of AW, and we're already seeing VR technology in that world move toward AW's neurolinker). However, Due to the accleration of Underworld in Alicization, the SAO timeline's essentially frozen, so who knows? at the end of the day, we can only speculate |
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