(L) Buddy Complex

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by venshade

hope so. alot people are butthurt in that valrape series hope it wont end up like valrape

This show is so much better than Valvrape already. The team that made Valvrape screw up everything they touch at except for Code Geass(which I dare say only worked due to luck. The show started not to make any sense by the end of the series).

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

This show is so much better than Valvrape already. The team that made Valvrape screw up everything they touch at except for Code Geass(which I dare say only worked due to luck. The show started not to make any sense by the end of the series).

You know, the team who responsible for VVV is also the team who animated Buddy Complex... It not the team's fault, it Okouchi's fault for ruining a perfectly awesome plot, the romance and the ending. It like after he wrote Code Geass, his writing skill went down the toilet.

[shadow1296]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

You know, the team who responsible for VVV is also the team who animated Buddy Complex... It not the team's fault, it Okouchi's fault for ruining a perfectly awesome plot, the romance and the ending. It like after he wrote Code Geass, his writing skill went down the toilet.

its not that his skills went down hill it's more like he wasn't given the amount of episodes needed for his writing, Okouchi needs long anime cours for his writing to work no less than 50 episodes because he likes to add other plot threads to his work that could never be explored in single or split cours, heck if code geass ended in the first 25 episodes and and those 25 were turned into a split cour anime it probably wouldn't be considered the materpiece that it it today

[Flames]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

You know, the team who responsible for VVV is also the team who animated Buddy Complex... It not the team's fault, it Okouchi's fault for ruining a perfectly awesome plot, the romance and the ending. It like after he wrote Code Geass, his writing skill went down the toilet.

I don't think it is the same staff. Sunrise has different studios that does different animation shows. In this case this is Studio 8 first mecha anime. It has nothing to do with the Valvrave staff which is a different studio under Sunrise.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by Edon613

If ep.1 Bizon could survive being crushed and his mech exploding, he'd be a pretty OP character.

Sarcasm aside, ep.1 Bizon is dead.

I've looked at that scene quite a few times. It did not look like Bizon was being crushed. It looked like the cockpit was being pulled apart and away from the mech. Hina's mech also pulled apart when she was time warping in episode 1. Hence, it looked like while Bizon's cockpit was pulling apart, he timewarped before the mech exploded.

Originally Posted by Nvis

He's in a wheelchair with breathing equipment because he's not really old....

If he landed in Aoba's time, he should be in his mid 80's to early 90's. And if he landed before Aoba's time, he'd be even older.

OK, the assumption is that Bizon in episode 1 did not die in the explosion, but timewarped instead. If we assume that the longer one stays in the tunnel before warping, then the further one travels in time. Hence, when Bizon disappeared, it was relatively early in the tunnel. Hence, he probably only went 10 years in the future from Aoba's time. Hina was next, so she went 60 years in the future and merged with a 6 year old version of herself. Aoba disappeared the latest, so he went 70 years into the future.

Hence, Bizon would be really old by the last scene (76 yrs old, if we assume he only traveled 10 years into the future from Aoba's time). He's in a wheelchair with breathing apparatus because his lungs were punctured in the battle with Hina in episode 1. Possible reasons why his legs are non-functioning are 1) caught in explosion, or 2) suffered nerve damage from the coupling device.

[venshade]

at the ending credits who is this guy beside aoba and the girl beside hina? it seems they are from the game right?

[liemtodaisu]

yeah they are main characters from the mobile game.

[venshade]

Originally Posted by liemtodaisu

yeah they are main characters from the mobile game.

judging from their uniforms, they are new allies of dio and aoba

[Tiberium Wolf]

Funny... that new dude he looks like Aoba.

[venshade]

Originally Posted by Tiberium Wolf

Funny... that new dude he looks like Aoba.

well maybe he is somehow a grandson of aoba's sister? (in the episode 1 maybe she is aoba's sister) since aoba went missing in 2014 because he went to the future

[Edon613]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I've looked at that scene quite a few times. It did not look like Bizon was being crushed. It looked like the cockpit was being pulled apart and away from the mech. Hina's mech also pulled apart when she was time warping in episode 1. Hence, it looked like while Bizon's cockpit was pulling apart, he timewarped before the mech exploded.



OK, the assumption is that Bizon in episode 1 did not die in the explosion, but timewarped instead. If we assume that the longer one stays in the tunnel before warping, then the further one travels in time. Hence, when Bizon disappeared, it was relatively early in the tunnel. Hence, he probably only went 10 years in the future from Aoba's time. Hina was next, so she went 60 years in the future and merged with a 6 year old version of herself. Aoba disappeared the latest, so he went 70 years into the future.

Hence, Bizon would be really old by the last scene (76 yrs old, if we assume he only traveled 10 years into the future from Aoba's time). He's in a wheelchair with breathing apparatus because his lungs were punctured in the battle with Hina in episode 1. Possible reasons why his legs are non-functioning are 1) caught in explosion, or 2) suffered nerve damage from the coupling device.

He was crushed. His cockpit was crushed. It imploded in on itself. There's literally nothing to discuss. He's dead. I'll provide all the screen-shots and proof needed to back up my claim. The Bizon that appears at the end is the Bizon that went into the tunnel in episode 13.

Images

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Also for further proof, you can literally go frame by frame and watch him get crushed.

I made a gallery for it.

http://imgur.com/a/wWH88

Of course it's not every single frame, but it's every frame of him getting crushed. You guys can go look frame by frame if you want.

[topboy]

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[username31]

Originally Posted by venshade

well maybe he is somehow a grandson of aoba's sister? (in the episode 1 maybe she is aoba's sister) since aoba went missing in 2014 because he went to the future

Actually they are not related with Anime Buddy Complex at all, the reason the dude similar with Aoba because that dude is original MC of Buddy Complex that announced first as mobage but then when they created Anime Buddy Complex they created Aoba as MC and many new characters and different story than mobage, they are similar because Aoba design was inspired by him...
Now that dude and yellow hair girl only usual characters in mobage and MCs in spin off story of Buddy Complex named as "Buddy Complex: Coupling of the Battlefield" which was the manga version of mobage story that more focus on coupling system than the Anime Buddy Complex, while the mobage MC are now seem changed to Aoba and Hina because the current mobage based on the anime.

[venshade]

Originally Posted by username31

Actually they are not related with Anime Buddy Complex at all, the reason the dude similar with Aoba because that dude is original MC of Buddy Complex that announced first as mobage but then when they created Anime Buddy Complex they created Aoba as MC and many new characters and different story than mobage, they are similar because Aoba design was inspired by him...
Now that dude and yellow hair girl only usual characters in mobage and MCs in spin off story of Buddy Complex named as "Buddy Complex: Coupling of the Battlefield" which was the manga version of mobage story that more focus on coupling system than the Anime Buddy Complex, while the mobage MC are now seem changed to Aoba and Hina

thanks for the information

[jordantenney56]

WORST FRIENDZONING EVER
This is why Anime and reality are so different, Aoba didnt do shit for Hina from more than some few words, and Bizon did almost everything for her, jajaja poor Bizon he even came from time loop to terminate its vegance.
Anyways im sure the next season will be around July so dont worry dudes.

I swear there are people supporting bizon i took this comment from Gogo anime is he watching the same show as me lmao because im pretty sure aoba has done a huge amount for hina loL. Bizon is a controlling jealous piece of crap who was telling her to what he has to say. He didnt even get friendzoned he got flat out rejected lmao. Im sure the guy who everheard of unrequited love would know childhood friends never work out lmao. Bizon already set himself up to be rejected lols

[Meltyred]

I guess he ignored the part where Bizon pretty much was ok with Hina being a mind puppet to Dr. Hahn...
What Bizon actually wants is to be in control of Hina, not so much how she feels... if anything after hearing Aoba didn't leave Hina stranded off the island he should at least be thankful to him for saving Hina, rather than being antagonistic even if they were on different sides of the war. Instead he was more concerned of the fact Hina talked to another male person.
It was like he did the Jealous boyfriend routine without the "boyfriend" part.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Edon613

He was crushed. His cockpit was crushed. It imploded in on itself. There's literally nothing to discuss. He's dead. I'll provide all the screen-shots and proof needed to back up my claim. The Bizon that appears at the end is the Bizon that went into the tunnel in episode 13.

Images

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Also for further proof, you can literally go frame by frame and watch him get crushed.

I made a gallery for it.

http://imgur.com/a/wWH88

Of course it's not every single frame, but it's every frame of him getting crushed. You guys can go look frame by frame if you want.

I'm impressed with the effort honestly. The problem being is the key frames are so blurry you can't actually tell what's going on.

Looking at the situation a regular self-destruct wouldn't be destroying the unit from the outside. Visually it's not that dissimilar to what happened to Hina's unit. The sparks of electricity, the pieces breaking away, etc.

In the end it really doesn't matter if the Bizon at the end is episode 13 Bizon or episode 1. The difference is literally about 10 minutes of experience. The one who blunders killing a civilian with a brand new unit or the one who gets blasted away by Dio and Aoba and sent flying away into the time tunnel.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Meltyred

I guess he ignored the part where Bizon pretty much was ok with Hina being a mind puppet to Dr. Hahn...
What Bizon actually wants is to be in control of Hina, not so much how she feels... if anything after hearing Aoba didn't leave Hina stranded off the island he should at least be thankful to him for saving Hina, rather than being antagonistic even if they were on different sides of the war. Instead he was more concerned of the fact Hina talked to another male person.
It was like he did the Jealous boyfriend routine without the "boyfriend" part.

1- he didn't know she was under drug
(he himself was under it thanks to his suit)

2- it's normal to want revenge for your dead father that why no one notice
it weirder that she have no interesting in revenge for her adopted father who die protecting her from alliance shot
(oh well, she was busy being horny)

3- that boyfriend was enemy ace
he didn't act like that even when she was all blush at when she was talking to their commander
(at start of anime)
it's one think to lose to one of your side but another when she betray your whole country for enemy lover

(like I said-> if the male she was talking to was from their side he won't be as angry when he know that male was enemy ACE)

it's like U*A ACE betray their country(and family, friends, comrade, neighbor...etc) because they fall in love with enemy ace....
(and have one ass doctor/commander and no he don't have free pass to drug her or he won't make it look like she want revenge for her father)

In the end it really doesn't matter if the Bizon at the end is episode 13 Bizon or episode 1. The difference is literally about 10 minutes of experience. The one who blunders killing a civilian with a brand new unit or the one who gets blasted away by Dio and Aoba and sent flying away into the time tunnel.

it wrong but think of it from his point of view
enemy ace in enemy country who is pilot of strongest enemy mech in middle of civilian group will you kill him or not?
U*A already killed many targets like that in Afghanistan with airplane without pilot

edit: and even then he was still under suit influence

[justinstrife]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

1- he didn't know she was under drug
(he himself was under it thanks to his suit)

2- it's normal to want revenge for your dead father that why no one notice
it weirder that she have no interesting in revenge for her adopted father who die protecting her from alliance shot
(oh well, she was busy being horny)

3- that boyfriend was enemy ace
he didn't act like that even when she was all blush at when she was talking to their commander
(at start of anime)
it's one think to lose to one of your side but another when she betray your whole country for enemy lover

(like I said-> if the male she was talking to was from their side he won't be as angry when he know that male was enemy ACE)

it's like U*A ACE betray their country(and family, friends, comrade, neighbor...etc) because they fall in love with enemy ace....
(and have one ass doctor/commander and no he don't have free pass to drug her or he won't make it look like she want revenge for her father)


it wrong but think of it from his point of view
enemy ace in enemy country who is pilot of strongest enemy mech in middle of civilian group will you kill him or not?
U*A already killed many targets like that in Afghanistan with airplane without pilot

edit: and even then he was still under suit influence

Ummm... you arent watching the same show as the rest of us. If I may ask a personal question... How old are you gundam? And what is your first language?

[Sakuratsuki]

Are people really defending Bizon and justifying his actions towards Hina? Did we watch the same show......

by Gundamx)

1- he didn't know she was under drug

Correction: he already knew she was not acting normal so he took advantage of it (because of his rage towards Aoba). Please go watch the episode again.

by Gundamx

2- it's normal to want revenge for your dead father that why no one notice
it weirder that she have no interesting in revenge for her adopted father who die protecting her from alliance shot
(oh well, she was busy being horny)

Hina joined the zogilia army because of her father. After she heard he is not her real father. She started thinking about what Aoba said back then on that Island. It's obvious that she would turn towards Aoba for answers and not towards Bizon or her other zogilia buddy's. She didn't betray anyone. Hina was really confused at that time. Do you think you would keep calm if you hear that your dad actually isn't your real dad?

Don't forget Aoba came from the past and he didn't know Hina was an enemy. The Hina from the pas was kind and saved his life from Bizon. And she was his only hope to go back to his own past. It's obvious why he treated her with respect and saved her on that Island. It's not out of love or him wanting her to be his girlfriend. But it is just to ask her why did she send him to the future time.

From this point on Hina started to see Aoba in another light.