AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Current Series > Fate/ Series

Notices

View Poll Results: Fate/Apocrypha - Episode 22 Rating
Perfect 10 5 33.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 6 40.00%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 3 20.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 0 0%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 6.67%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2017-12-10, 06:57   Link #1
Klashikari
阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv165
*Graphic Designer
*Moderator
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Belgium, Brussels
Age: 32
Fate/Apocrypha - Episode 22 Discussion / Poll

Welcome to the discussion thread for Fate/Apocrypha, Episode 22.

Thread Guidelines
  • Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum.
  • Spoilers or hints about future events must not be posted in this thread.
    If you need to reference something that would spoil a future event, reply directly with a private message, or seek out a more appropriate thread.
  • Discuss your expectations of the episode if it has not aired yet.
  • Be polite to your fellow forum members.
  • Please try to keep the discussion on-topic.
  • Character bashing is not on-topic and will not be tolerated.
  • Do not post multiple times in a row. Please edit your existing post if you wish to add additional thoughts.
Episode Thread Spoiler Policy
  • Any comment that discloses events, characters, plot or other information before it is revealed in the anime is expressly forbidden whether or not it is behind spoiler tags.
    Spoiler tags should still be used where appropriate.
    Please consult the AnimeSuki Spoiler Policy for more information.
  • Adding a Spoiler tag:
    Just highlight your spoiler and click the button found
    on the "Quick Reply" and "Reply to Thread" forms.
    Make sure that you include a useful title!
  • Please use the Report button if you see any inappropriate spoilers:
    Click the button found to the left of the post, just under the poster's avatar.
    Using the Report button is anonymous and helps the Moderators
    locate and deal with problems quickly.
  • Posting inappropriate spoilers may result in a ban.
    Note: Reporting a post does not mean the poster will be banned instantly.
    The Moderators will use bans if warnings are repeatedly ignored.
Klashikari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 08:18   Link #2
Xero8420
Ashigara's master
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: A disclosed area off coast Ryuku Islands
Age: 26
Let alone the inconsistent art/graphics quality, this has been the greatest episode to date, with the Sieg vs Karna as the best highlight of the episode. That was some DBZ/Gurren Lagann-tier epic stuff that made up the inconsistency. Karna fought honorably, gave his all & then died in style, that he automatically become one of the most respectable Servants by far. Thanks to the Achilles Kosmos that Achilles handed over to Astolfo, it able to tank Karna's NP long enough to gave Sieg a winning chance. Still trying to be Sieg's best girl, eh, Astolfo?

Felt sorry for Atalanta sinking deep with her "muh children" despair to the point of becoming a demon. She looked hot with that demonic form, though. Anyway, thank god for Achilles to intervene & end her miserable madness swiftly, while honoring his mentor's wish. He's quite a bro, really.

Well, Achilles ended up died together with Atalanta. R.I.P. Achilles x Atalanta... It would have been... so good together as a couple...
Xero8420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 10:04   Link #3
MCAL
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Well that was epic. In every sense of the word.

EDIT:
http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/#9

Seems even Nasu was impressed by the animation in this episode.

Last edited by MCAL; 2017-12-10 at 14:26.
MCAL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 16:39   Link #4
AntonKutovoi
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Vladimir, Russia
Age: 24
Holy crap, that animation
And looked more like Trigger show than A-1 show.
AntonKutovoi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 16:53   Link #5
bakato
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: May 2014
If you watch closely at 12:42, Karna looks like he uses an eye beam, which is a homage to Fate/ Extra.
__________________
Jcafe is up!
bakato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 18:09   Link #6
AnimeFan188
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Considering Karna was a lancer-class servant, he died a surprisingly dignified death.

No wonder he was selected as the best of the lancers in this article!:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/fea...il-war/.125018
AnimeFan188 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 20:06   Link #7
bakato
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: May 2014
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 View Post
Considering Karna was a lancer-class servant, he died a surprisingly dignified death.

No wonder he was selected as the best of the lancers in this article!:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/fea...il-war/.125018
Yep. You could argue that he breaks the "being Lancer is suffering" trope.
__________________
Jcafe is up!
bakato is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 20:25   Link #8
Xero8420
Ashigara's master
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: A disclosed area off coast Ryuku Islands
Age: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakato View Post
Yep. You could argue that he breaks the "being Lancer is suffering" trope.
Lucky him... Karna managed to stand out from any Lancers & never had any tragic encounters.
Xero8420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-10, 23:11   Link #9
XFire
150% done
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Well, damn. That was intense. I was actually impressed with Sieg here, he did a damn fine job holding out that well.

But Karna, naturally, stole the spotlight. The power of Saber of Black, the Kosmos shield, Astolfo, and even the sword Sieg borrowed. It took literally everything the series has been using to build Sieg up just to give him half a chance in hell.

Oh, spear won't work? Have laser spears from above. No? Eyebeams galore. Still not enough? Brahmastra bitches. Hmm, needs a tad more, eh?

VASAVI SHAKTI

I really want to see him and Gil go at it.
__________________
XFire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 00:05   Link #10
AnimeFan188
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by XFire View Post
Well, damn. That was intense. I was actually impressed with Sieg here, he did a damn fine job holding out that well.

But Karna, naturally, stole the spotlight. The power of Saber of Black, the Kosmos shield, Astolfo, and even the sword Sieg borrowed. It took literally everything the series has been using to build Sieg up just to give him half a chance in hell.

Oh, spear won't work? Have laser spears from above. No? Eyebeams galore. Still not enough? Brahmastra bitches. Hmm, needs a tad more, eh?

VASAVI SHAKTI

I really want to see him and Gil go at it.
After that fight, I wonder how much of the Hanging Gardens is still intact?

I was surprised that Assassin just let Ruler pass without a fight, I guess the writers
decided that after the Atalanta/Ruler scuffle, we've had enough catfighting for now.

Assassin said she was expecting someone else (the Mordred/Sisigo team?).

Looks like Ruler will be facing off against Shakespeare/Caster next. From the way
Assassin was talking about him, she seems to think he'll be especially effective against
Ruler.

This spectacular sky battle, featuring exploding 747s and a flying fortress, isn't being
noticed by *any* civilians?
AnimeFan188 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 00:27   Link #11
XFire
150% done
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnimeFan188 View Post
After that fight, I wonder how much of the Hanging Gardens is still intact?

I was surprised that Assassin just let Ruler pass without a fight, I guess the writers
decided that after the Atalanta/Ruler scuffle, we've had enough catfighting for now.

Assassin said she was expecting someone else (the Mordred/Sisigo team?).

Looks like Ruler will be facing off against Shakespeare/Caster next. From the way
Assassin was talking about him, she seems to think he'll be especially effective against
Ruler.

This spectacular sky battle, featuring exploding 747s and a flying fortress, isn't being
noticed by *any* civilians?
I'm pretty sure if Astolfo hadn't popped the Kosmos shield Karna was going to waste the whole thing

As for Assassin vs Caster, it wouldn't have been much of a fight. Magic does nothing to Ruler and her physical strength is absurd. Jeanne would have just walked up and snapped her neck, which is a tad undignified for Semiramis.

Also, fun fact I learned because of Fate, Shakespeare is one of the only people to ever portray Jeanne negatively. He wrote her as an evil witch in one of his plays.
__________________
XFire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 03:28   Link #12
shmaster
オンドリャァァァ!!!
 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by XFire View Post
I really want to see him and Gil go at it.
It'll be extremely on sided because Gil spoils Karna completely.
Karna's A rank Divinity stripped of him having any chance against Gil.
shmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 04:34   Link #13
Sheba
Part-Time TTK & Master
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Iwakawa base and Chaldea
Age: 38
Gil have a counter against Divine servants people tends to forget about: his chain Enkidu.

Even Achilles have to set up his barrier faster than Gil can shoot his chain. Only then, Achilles may have a chance against Gil.
Sheba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 05:40   Link #14
Xero8420
Ashigara's master
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: A disclosed area off coast Ryuku Islands
Age: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by XFire View Post
Well, damn. That was intense. I was actually impressed with Sieg here, he did a damn fine job holding out that well.

But Karna, naturally, stole the spotlight. The power of Saber of Black, the Kosmos shield, Astolfo, and even the sword Sieg borrowed. It took literally everything the series has been using to build Sieg up just to give him half a chance in hell.

Oh, spear won't work? Have laser spears from above. No? Eyebeams galore. Still not enough? Brahmastra bitches. Hmm, needs a tad more, eh?

VASAVI SHAKTI

I really want to see him and Gil go at it.
Vasavi Shakti - Karna's ultimate weapon is an A+ - EX rank Anti-Divine NP, which can save to say it's nearly as powerful as Gil's Ea. But Gil's Ea can break Akhilleus Kosmos without breaking a sweat, since Enuma Elish is an anti-World NP.
Xero8420 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 05:44   Link #15
MeoTwister5
Komrades of Kitamura Kou
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 33
He dies, she dies, they die, everybody dies!

I mean I actually expected someone to die in the Red Faction to balance out Chiron getting offed and Astolfo essentially out of action, but 3 in 30 minutes? Yeesh.
MeoTwister5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 06:44   Link #16
AntonKutovoi
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Vladimir, Russia
Age: 24
I guess next episode Jeanne and William are going to have a chat about Jeanne’s portrayal in Henry VI
AntonKutovoi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 11:53   Link #17
Twi
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Review/Recap.

It might be just me, but I thought the art was wonky more than anything during the fights. That might work on a different show, but I need it looking crisp during my Fate fights, not like the bounds were being stretched to where I could barely tell what was happening during the intenser parts.

Which is a shame, because I loved the story being told this episode.
__________________
https://wandsandvials.wordpress.com/2017/12/27/an-alchemist-sets-out-1-01/
Twi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 12:45   Link #18
shmaster
オンドリャァァァ!!!
 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero8420 View Post
Vasavi Shakti - Karna's ultimate weapon is an A+ - EX rank Anti-Divine NP, which can save to say it's nearly as powerful as Gil's Ea. But Gil's Ea can break Akhilleus Kosmos without breaking a sweat, since Enuma Elish is an anti-World NP.
Karna's A+ NP is Brhamastra Khundala.
Vasavi Shakti is EX and nothing else.

Gil dies terribly to it if Karna can land a hit on him.
Just it'll never happen with Enkidu.
shmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 14:07   Link #19
Ultragunner
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
first and foremost - an obligatory comment in the animation: this reminds me of a “certain fight” in Naruto Shippuden

....
....so did Charon ask Achilles to take care of Atalanta? Or did he just do it out of respect for and pride of both being heros?
__________________
Ultragunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2017-12-11, 14:14   Link #20
Kanon
Kana Hanazawa ♥
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 31
This episode made me a bit dizzy. The fights were over the top, all those lasers and explosions
The animation was great though.

Karna and Achilles cemented themselves as two of the best servants in this war. Not just because of their absurd strength, but also thanks to their kindness and honor.
__________________
Rize and Kaneki
Kanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We use Silk.