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Old 2018-10-10, 07:04   Link #2861
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They altered history so Takumi never became Faiz in the first place though, so the change wasn't made to that moment.

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In Kamen Rider 4, and the twist was that he was actually dead all along.
Oh I did see the movie with Kamen Rider 3 (which Takumi was also in) but not the one with 4.
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Old 2018-10-10, 10:26   Link #2862
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They altered history so Takumi never became Faiz in the first place though, so the change wasn't made to that moment.
Which adds to my own confusion.

Did the writer even know basic time traveling mechanics?
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Old 2018-10-10, 11:14   Link #2863
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Which adds to my own confusion.

Did the writer even know basic time traveling mechanics?
The mindset is already different to begin with as Rider get "erased" when Time Jackers created Alternate Riders. It means the reason history affected is not caused by time travel but because of Rider who lead into whole event as depicted in each of their own series became non-existant including their reasoning.

In Build, no Smash, no Skywall, no Evolt, no Pandora Box; those events that shaped Sento resolution to became Build effectively disappear.

Here in 555 and Fourze, Takumi and Kusaka connected with both unaware how to do transformation and how transformation works (requirement of Orpenoch DNA) as Orpenoch (most likely) gone as well (after seeing the episode again, there is moment Alter 555 absorb life force)--considering the reason of Driver creation in 555 is to protect the King, so Orpenoch existence should be eliminated as well to eliminate 555 as 'series' (I want to talk about Fourze 'disappearance' but too many IRL factor on their crews ).

Writing aside, the range of affected event is unclear I'd say this is either due to resistance of each original Rider (as shown by Sento and Banjo being fan of Taro Sato, also Emu still aware that he's a Rider) or simply that current victim make two contract, resulting drastic changes compare to Build and Exaid.

Next is Wizard, which should be easy as to eliminate Wizard as series, you only need to eliminate Eclipse Ritual.

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Old 2018-10-13, 13:24   Link #2864
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Decided to watch Ryuki. Despite the dated CGI, some fights are nice and the use of cards sure is fun
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Old 2018-10-13, 19:21   Link #2865
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Ryuki is great. The ending might leave you disappointed though. I personally really liked it.
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Old Yesterday, 20:49   Link #2866
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I never thought I would say this, but compare to zi-o, the setting of decade is way better As soon as we accept parallel world doesn't mean original riders, we could have at least enjoyed decade till the point the history of decade is forever missing, but in zi-o...

So many inconsistency here, the senpais may or may not remember anything about riders at will, but yet, they carry that useless gimmick for years just to give it to the 2 riders...

Another thing I don't like is, seems like the world is revolved around all the previous riders. When the rider's power is gone, even the evil disappears, but most of the times, the born of evil has nothing to do with riders in the first place...

Anyway, I will keep watching
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Old Today, 05:42   Link #2867
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Another thing I don't like is, seems like the world is revolved around all the previous riders. When the rider's power is gone, even the evil disappears, but most of the times, the born of evil has nothing to do with riders in the first place...
KR theme is "use power of evil to defeat evil"; in order for KR to exist on said era, evil should be exist first.
Thus when the KR gone under a forced fixed rule like what happened in Zi-O for each AR created, the evil should be gone as well as its the main reason of why KR exist.

Sengoku Driver is effort to exploit Helheim fruit, if you didn't want Gaim exist, the research and the forest should be ceased to exist.
Build Driver is Evolt effort to replicate the original Driver, if you didn't want Build exist, then everything related to Evolt shoule be ceased to exist.

Rider that not directly involved to the evil, like Beast (Nitoh) and G3 (Hikawa), are extremely rare.
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