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View Poll Results: Tate no Yuusha/Shield Hero - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 0 0%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 5 55.56%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 0 0%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 33.33%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 11.11%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old Today, 05:35   Link #21
Arya
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Yeah, I am not a fan of this episode. I have already read the manga version of this episode long ago and already knew what this episode contained, but the thing that I disliked the most is how hard this episode is trying to sell Raphtalia as the perfect waifu.

Not only is she sooo good that she as a kid (she still is one no matter how she looks) was the one to try and rally her village (because on anime land adults never now how to do anything), but apparently she is also above getting revenge on a piece of shit that deserves it (this is without mentioning how they keep making her backstory even more bleak the more they show of it to make us care about her. We get it, she had it bad, no need to over do it).
Same here, but I didn't read the manga. I did not dislike it, but certainly the part where she stood up making that speech for to her village was a bit eye-rolling. Also her magnanimity toward her and her friends torturer felt forced. Surely I assumed the story told in the episode was just bits, removed from most of the brutality. So for Raphtalia's feeling to kill him would have been natural and very very difficult to die out.

On the other hand the episode helped Melty to have a deeper look into her country, the country she is supposed to reign in the future. If she was kinda reluctant before, now I think she got hit hard to make her grow up and see what the real state of her country.

BTW, the other countries are of demi-humans, so why in the hell demi-humans keeps living in this country. On the other hand they could build their own village. It' like their condition was not so oppressed before the waves. This is a bit confusing.
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Old Today, 06:14   Link #22
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BTW, the other countries are of demi-humans, so why in the hell demi-humans keeps living in this country. On the other hand they could build their own village. It' like their condition was not so oppressed before the waves. This is a bit confusing.
We repeatedly shown some banner being trampled. And they where expecting relief from capital. Think they where living in different country.
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The lord who ruled over the part where the demi humans lived was sympathetic to them and apparently had enough clout to keep them safe. He died during the first wave. I thought they explained this. Maybe it was too much of an offhand remark that it didn't register?
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Old Today, 07:50   Link #24
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The lord who ruled over the part where the demi humans lived was sympathetic to them and apparently had enough clout to keep them safe. He died during the first wave. I thought they explained this. Maybe it was too much of an offhand remark that it didn't register?
ah, you are right, I clearly missed the part about the late lord being Raphtalia's and ... I for some reasons I didn't even connect the dots.
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Old Today, 10:33   Link #25
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I too would have liked it better if raphtalia killed ido; but I keep on thinking that would not be consistent with the anime's effort on making naofumi and his group look better.

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As much as I would like to see where the plot will go to answer your questions I think even the source material hasn't touched upon these questions yet, (maybe) therefore it will never be answered in the anime
An educated guess can be made with the info we already have in the anime, but it's a shot in the dark ; the WN does explain exactly what happened; don't know about the LN.
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BTW, the other countries are of demi-humans, so why in the hell demi-humans keeps living in this country. On the other hand they could build their own village. It' like their condition was not so oppressed before the waves. This is a bit confusing.
Why didn't all the Africans move to the North? It's not as easy as you'd think.
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Old Today, 11:28   Link #27
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For me trying to make Raphatalia a bundle of purity and goodness by not making her kill or seriously hurt her tormentor seems far too hamfisted to me. It just doesn't feel realistic with how a person would act in this situation. I mean he tortured her, he tortured her best friend to the point where she slowly got sicker and died, he tortured her other friend Keel, he's clearly an unrepentant asshole who tried to attack her and the others at first opportunity, he was going to hurt Melty, his ruler to be. I mean christ this isn't a person you can sternly wag your finger at and tell them not to do it again. Sometimes a person just needs to be put down. Doing things in the show to prevent Raphatalia from being "tainted" in the eyes of viewers really gives the Suspension of Disbelief a hit for me.
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Old Today, 11:41   Link #28
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don't have a problem with her not killing him and just having it be an act of self-defense instead.

revenge not being good is a theme that's in about every anime, but in western movies, like every other film is a revenge film so maybe different views lol.
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Old Today, 11:43   Link #29
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Hard to say for me. I mean, for all of that, he's still a human. She can't help but see that he's a person; a horrible person, but a person nonetheless. Killing a person can be incredibly difficult for many, even with a backstory like that. In fact, it might be more common for a person to stop and hold back rather than make the kill, at least the first time. And seriously this is nothing new and hardly something so out of left-field to be derided as an over-the-top attempt at making her seem "so pure". I'm pretty sure around 80-90% of stories have people in these situations stop their blade and refuse to kill the person after they cease to be a clear and immediate threat, often with the same reasoning that doing so would be stooping to their level or otherwise compromising their own sense of right and wrong. As horrible as they made Idol, Raphtalia's refusal to kill him did not in my opinion seem in any way outside of predictable behavior.
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Old Today, 11:48   Link #30
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At first she was fine attacking balloons, but hesitated at killing a warm blooded actual anime.

is this the first time she's confronted about killing a human that's at her mercy though?
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Old Today, 12:05   Link #31
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At first she was fine attacking balloons, but hesitated at killing a warm blooded actual anime.

is this the first time she's confronted about killing a human that's at her mercy though?
I think the only other time she's actually fought any humans (not counting Glass) was those knights that were sent to assassinate Melty, and they had to doctor the footage to make it look like she was going for lethal blows.
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Old Today, 12:12   Link #32
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don't have a problem with her not killing him and just having it be an act of self-defense instead.

revenge not being good is a theme that's in about every anime, but in western movies, like every other film is a revenge film so maybe different views lol.
Pretty much this, a lot of people is just overreacting here about the change when we got for 14 episodes a Raphtalia acting as the voice of reason and good will while Naofumi goes into multiple meltdowns due to the harassment and injustice coming from everyone. Using the scene from the WN should've changed the image of raphtalia used in the anime, instead this change is just keeping that and still reaching the same point because on every version the bad guy died in the exact same way.
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