2012-06-20, 11:33 | Link #6261 |
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Under the definition of a 'fight', then this actually was the better one, since it wasn't just one person beating another up for one chapter with no resistance, and then the other suddenly winning.
Don't know why you think she was the underdog, though; Cypha couldn't do shit. Ten bucks she has some BS excuse about how she didn't want to waste her time when she gets back to the Esquad. |
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I bet there's an important reason for Cypha to abandon that fight.
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2012-06-20, 13:12 | Link #6265 |
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If that were the case she wouldn't have fought her at all. Those swords aren't exactly designed for not making severe wounds.
And I love how Signum beats her in a fight, something you wanted to happen, and you still twist it into her being weak. You're such a dickhead. |
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Knowing Cypha she probably tought this will be just as easy as the last time and while finding some resistance she realized it will be impossible to defeat Signum without endangering her life due to the latter's stubborness so she decided to leave the fight at the first chance. Oh, i find the moment slightly satysfing as well but the implication that Cypha is still stronger than Signum remains and she didn't managed to "win" as Cypha fleed. To be fair is not entirely Signum's fault, AEC-Equipement is crappy by nature and the Blazing General had lost part of her strenght due to injuries.
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2012-06-20, 14:59 | Link #6267 |
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Cypha only won because of anti-magic the first time (Signum was showing her the business before she reacted with her Divider without resorting to her more powerful attacks), where's this "implication" Cypha's stronger than Signum? Fate fought Cypha without getting a scratch and Signum was dominate in the last chapter. Cypha just has an inflated ego from stomping weaklings.
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2012-06-20, 15:07 | Link #6268 |
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I've seen too much struggling from Signum on the last chapter to consider she was "dominating" the fight, Cypha demonstrated to actually be still stronger than Signum's AEc-enhaced defenses by cutting trough the barrier activated by Agito and the shooting shield. Signum hit Cypha several times in the abdomen with "silver bullets" but those didn't even slowed her in any way and only managed to piss her off. At the end Cypha even destroyed that shield by crushing it with her bare hand. The good part is that Cypha also has to put effort into achieving all of that but Signum hardly "dominated" her. In fact, Signum's dominance was more clear on Ch. 6 when she proved to be more than a match to Cypha while on equal conditions.
Thing is they aren't on equal conditions yet. AEC-Equipement is too frail to keep in battle against dividers for long and Signum's body is now weaker due to unrecovered injuries and possible permanent sequels. Well, she stompped Signum earlier xDU
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2012-06-20, 15:20 | Link #6270 | |||
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New theory: Aki is secretly a Cypha fanboy and is using his former love for Signum as a coverup to try and appear legitimate when dissing her.
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Blah blah equal fight. No. That'd require Cypha to ditch her divider as well. In which case the battle isn't as clear cut as you imply. Quote:
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2012-06-20, 15:43 | Link #6272 | |||
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If there's a danger for me developing secret fanboyism over someone, that would be Curren cause she's invincible and badass xD Agreed, that's in the eye of the beholder xD Quote:
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Fate's swords aren't made by Caledfwlch Techniques and are also made from the original Bardiche's body which could explain their effectiveness, durability and overall awesomeness xD! AEC-Equipements have demonstranted time after time to be uncapable to compete with Divider in terms of durability, even in this very fight Caro's Fortress-shields got sliced by an unreacted divider sword, as i mentioned Cypha was able to defeat Signum's shield by sheer brute strenght, and it was the part of her equipement whose purpouse is to block attacks which is a bad omen for that cleaver-thing (i can't see that thing as a "sword" by any means xDU) in battle against a reacted divider dual wielding Cypha.
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2012-06-20, 17:00 | Link #6273 | |||
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Even Laevateine's design is to efficiently fights mages while providing aditional support for mid- to long ranges of combat in case the attacker draws distance. So please, do explain to me how her new equipment 'talks bad' about her overall skills. Quote:
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As for the sword... can't get a good look at it, but meh. Fate's is bigger. |
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Her new AEC-Equipement on the other hand is bigger and clumsier, it lacks Laevatein's versatility and disallow Signum to fight at her usual level of skill and speed (altough that something also has to do with her weakened condition as well) during this fight she fought Cypha more as a Mighty Glacier than a Lightning Bruiser as she was renowed in past battles. Unable to avoid Cypha and forced to be constantly on the defensive relying almost completely on the performance of her new equipement instead of her own skills and virtues as a warrior. It was like Obi-Wan using a gun against General Grievous: effective but lame. Apparently yes, or at least most of it. Cypha regenerated her lost arm without any visible effort before reacting, Signum felt and commented on the hardness of her body right after chopping her arm off and seeing Laevatein's blade cracking. Signum have enough strenght to send a teenage girl flying around 3 meters away while holding back and it's implied she could even damage solid concrete if serious but Cypha's body seems to be literally harder than freaking steel. So yeah it won't be a good idea to fight an unarmed battle against a Huckebein. Quote:
It's not the size(altough it is influential), it's the shape. Check closely the shape, size and direction of the AEC-Cleaver closely. The handgrip/hilt is curve and on the opposite side of a curved blade, the thing is help more as a guillotine than as a proper sword, instead of a straight handgrip like Laevatein's who allows the usual maneuverability. With such a design Signum is more limites to do linear slashes rather than fence and do her usuall skilled sword maneuvers. The shooter shield compensates the lack of versatility but not for much and Signum's sword proficency became so limited that she's now almost completely reliant on the shield, using the "silver bullets" to limit the opponets moves until she can deal a big slash. Unlike Laevatein, that AEC-Cleaver thing works more like a sharpened club than anything.
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Notice that? It was designed to fulfill a particular need. As does this weapon. And big and clumsy? Are we really pulling that argument in the face of Fate's giant frigging zamber or Vita's gargantuan hammer? Really, how many times do I have to warn people not to get me started on the realism on Nanohaverse's weaponry? First rule of Nanohaverse weaponry: It's shape in no way negatively affects it's efficiency. Ever. And Signum was never a lightning bruiser. Fate is a lightning bruiser, and she described Signum as the exact mighty glacier you somehow call negatively now. Quote:
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2012-06-20, 18:06 | Link #6276 | |||
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As i mentioned Signum got tranformed into a Fragile Speedster due to the new rules of the FORCE setting. But the new powerset granted to her by the AEC-Equipement put herself between Mighty Glacier(with shield) and Glass Cannon(without shield). Signum have a very strong body and powerfull magical defenses coupled with speed and strenght but against Eclipse half of those attributes get nullified. It's specially jarring because Signum's new weapons force her to adopt a different style instead of enhacing what she's very good at. Like Erio with a Strike Cannon (seriously, what were they thinking!?). Signum's new equipement limits her to just shooting and do linear slashes. It's almost as lazy(if not lazier) as Nanoha's Fortress unit. I didn't say it was bad. In fact, i cannot blame her because with such dangerous opponent's and with such lame weapons at hand, fighting smart is Signum's only option xDU
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