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**Klashikari** · 2008-03-06, 00:44

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note: Poll is closed until the episode airs in Japan, for obvious reasons.

Episode 20 will be broadcasted this 7th march at 1:55 AM (Japan Time Zone),
which means this 6th march at 4:55PM (GMT 00).

Proto · 2008-03-06, 01:11

And so, we continue delving into the more serious parts of Nagisa's arc proper. I expect this episode to continue building up all the crucial points of Nagisa's arc, and we'll probably have some big cliffhanger for this episode. Akio's comments on the preview kinda intrigue me, I guess if we will get a deeper insight of what he referred to on this episode. Seeing how Kyou, Ryou and kotomi will fit into the grander scheme of things will be interesting as well.

todkapuz · 2008-03-06, 02:39

seems so quick after waiting for last weeks

This surely will be an intersting episode ... I want to see how they play this with so few episodes left in the series.

Raptor73 · 2008-03-06, 05:46

After this episode there isn't much time left, so unless they're doing yet more changes these last few episodes should definitely be solely focused on Nagisa and Tomoya. I'm hoping that they include some of my favourite scenes from the Nagisa Arc (I won't state what they are, for obvious reasons) otherwise I'm not going to be a happy pappy.

Divini · 2008-03-06, 06:19

I've heard from many people that Nagisa's is the most 'heartwarming' arc of them all.

So I'm almost expecting a string of 10s from me for the next 3 episodes.

Kristen · 2008-03-06, 07:47

I guess this is my first real episode as an experianced gamer... Guess it'll be a bit different of an experiance.

More Tomoyo/Kyou beatings of Sunohara would be nice.

**Klashikari** · 2008-03-06, 13:16

Screencaps are already available on usual places

Headlines of this episode

Spoiler for episode 19 headlines:

This episode is quite stuffed, and the quality is most likely back to normal. ufufufufu...

*edit* being tired can give you an unexpected result in term of "thread"... (working on 2 threads as well...)

SidVicious · 2008-03-06, 13:43

Finally a new episode.

Deathscyther · 2008-03-06, 13:55

From what you're saying..the episode looks quite packed yeah o.0
But I'm looking forward to it very much

Spoiler for spoilers:

Flandre Scarlet · 2008-03-06, 14:10

Nagisa's past is very impressive・・・

In this episode, imagination world scene (often at the beginnig) would make sense

Tyabann · 2008-03-06, 14:21

Looking at the spoilers, I can't wait for this episode.

**Klashikari** · 2008-03-06, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathscyther

From what you're saying..the episode looks quite packed yeah o.0
But I'm looking forward to it very much

Spoiler for spoilers:

my mistake, I meant

Spoiler:

Let's see, after watching the episode, bullet summary:
Episode 20: Bullet summary
This episode was really the usual breath taker, and the mood is set for the true dish of clannad, ufufufu.

Kinny Riddle · 2008-03-06, 14:43

Finally, first direct mention of the Illusionary World by Nagisa, followed by the screen fading white and revealing the "CLANNAD" title, symbolizing the real beginning of the Clannad story. This is just the calm before the storm, brace yourselves for the last two episodes as well as hopefully a second series.

Yukine's role has been slightly altered into being a matchmaker for Tomoya and Nagisa (Fuuko did not speak, so she doesn't count), while not a bad idea, it does take the "magic" away from her magic spells, as she saw Nagisa walking in the hallway before suggesting Tomoya should try after poor Sunohara's failed to find a girl after five attempts.

Speaking of Sunohara, while often an idiot, this time he's at the right place at the right time, giving Tomoya the nudge he needs when he got cold feet and ran away from the Furukawa Picnic. Though still no confession or kiss yet.

I'll write a bit more in the Spoilers thread, so join me there if you already know the story.

Tyabann · 2008-03-06, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari

my mistake, I meant

Spoiler:

I would guess that they're

Spoiler:

Proto · 2008-03-06, 15:42

What an super-b, heartwarming episode this was.

Spoiler for this episode:

Leo_Otaku · 2008-03-06, 22:34

Really good episode ^-^ Looks like she will be practicing in the next one. I liked that Rainbow bread XD I want some...

Phantom-Takaya · 2008-03-07, 00:51

That rainbow bread looks intimidating...

Spoiler for Uh, this episode, of course.:

todkapuz · 2008-03-07, 02:17

I'm still watching the Raw ..... but I had to comment ... I was so happy to see the Title after Nagisa's description of the story! ... I mean yes we see it each week... but not like that

it finally begins! *wakuwaku* can't wat to see the rest of this episode.

edit: okay.. and I have to say I Want some rainbow-pan!

edit edit:

I'm going to write my commentary AS I watch the episode... I guess because the op has me fired up ... so I would suggest not reading this until after you watch the episode..

Spoiler for okay my as it happens, sorry I'm not translating it for you.... I'll try REALLY hard not to spoil the future.. this is pointless to read anyhow:

Spoiler for Real thoughts, condensed, based on game experience:

But looking at it from an anime-only side..... this was a vey good episode... the elements are finally falling into place. I laughed, I was moved, I cried, and I got better.... what else can you ask for? .... so if I hadn't spoiled myself by workng on the Baka-Tsuki project, I'd give it a 10/10 ... but since I have... 9/10 for making me worry.

edit edit edit?

After watching sprocket/twh

Spoiler for more of the same:

Eh, KyoAni is playing with my head!

Kana Futayo · 2008-03-07, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klashikari

my mistake, I meant

Spoiler:

Oh.... I thought they would go for it

Anyway, just by looking at the headlines specially the illusionary world play by Nagisa.
This episode will be interesting for me. I can't wait to watch it! *downloading torrent*

IRJustman · 2008-03-07, 02:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom-Takaya

That rainbow bread looks intimidating...

First thing that came to my mind:

Will this stuff register on a geiger counter? It'd be scary if it did. And if it did, is it munitions-grade bread?

--Ian.

View Poll Results: Clannad - Episode 20 Rating
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2008-03-06, 00:44	Link #1
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Clannad - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll Welcome to the discussion thread for Clannad, Episode 20. Thread Guidelines Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum. Spoilers about future events must not be posted in this thread. If you need to reference something that would spoil a future event, reply directly with a private message. Discuss your expectations of the episode if it has not aired yet. Be polite to your fellow forum members. Please try to keep the discussion on topic. Spoiler Policy Any spoiler that reveals future events, even under a spoiler tag, will be deleted. Spoiler tags should still be used where appropriate. Adding a Spoiler tag: Just highlight your spoiler and click the button found on the "Quick Reply" and "Reply to Thread" forms. Make sure that you include a title for the spoiler! Please use the Report button if you see any spoilers: Click the button found to the left of the post, just under the poster's avatar. Using the Report button is anonymous and helps the Moderators to locate and deal with problems quickly. Posting prohibited spoilers will result in a ban. Note: Reporting a post does not mean the poster will be banned instantly. The Moderators will use bans if warnings are repeatedly ignored. note: Poll is closed until the episode airs in Japan, for obvious reasons. Episode 20 will be broadcasted this 7th march at 1:55 AM (Japan Time Zone), which means this 6th march at 4:55PM (GMT 00). Last edited by Klashikari; 2008-03-06 at 01:26.

2008-03-06, 01:11	Link #2
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	And so, we continue delving into the more serious parts of Nagisa's arc proper. I expect this episode to continue building up all the crucial points of Nagisa's arc, and we'll probably have some big cliffhanger for this episode. Akio's comments on the preview kinda intrigue me, I guess if we will get a deeper insight of what he referred to on this episode. Seeing how Kyou, Ryou and kotomi will fit into the grander scheme of things will be interesting as well. __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux Last edited by Proto; 2008-03-06 at 09:56.

2008-03-06, 05:46	Link #4
Raptor73 ブラック・ロック・シューター Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia.	After this episode there isn't much time left, so unless they're doing yet more changes these last few episodes should definitely be solely focused on Nagisa and Tomoya. I'm hoping that they include some of my favourite scenes from the Nagisa Arc (I won't state what they are, for obvious reasons) otherwise I'm not going to be a happy pappy. __________________

2008-03-06, 07:47	Link #6
Kristen Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Tech	I guess this is my first real episode as an experianced gamer... Guess it'll be a bit different of an experiance. More Tomoyo/Kyou beatings of Sunohara would be nice. __________________

2008-03-06, 02:39	Link #3
todkapuz Seiza + Katana = Ai-daiyo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston (Clear Lake), TX Age: 44	seems so quick after waiting for last weeks This surely will be an intersting episode ... I want to see how they play this with so few episodes left in the series.

2008-03-06, 06:19	Link #5
Divini Senpai! Join Date: Mar 2007	I've heard from many people that Nagisa's is the most 'heartwarming' arc of them all. So I'm almost expecting a string of 10s from me for the next 3 episodes.

2008-03-06, 13:16	Link #7
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Screencaps are already available on usual places Headlines of this episode Spoiler for episode 19 headlines: Nagisa performing the "illusionary world" play Another scene of the illusionary world, with the girl and the robot Akio antics! Some screentime for the choir club and Yukine (another spell !) Fuuko makes another appearance, but this time, she is discussing alone with Tomoya More NagisaXTomoya Serious matter between Akio and Tomoya (tea scene !) Nagisa's past revealed Picnic event This episode is quite stuffed, and the quality is most likely back to normal. ufufufufu... edit being tired can give you an unexpected result in term of "thread"... (working on 2 threads as well...) __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter] Last edited by Klashikari; 2008-03-06 at 13:32.

2008-03-06, 13:43	Link #8
SidVicious Anime addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: São Paulo/Brazil Age: 46	Finally a new episode.

2008-03-06, 13:55	Link #9
Deathscyther Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35	From what you're saying..the episode looks quite packed yeah o.0 But I'm looking forward to it very much Spoiler for spoilers: Nagisa performing the play? o.0 You mean Nagisa talking about the play to Tomoya, right? I mean, this happens before Tomoya will talk to akio about nagisa (what we see in the preview). And picnic? Omg...if that is what I think it is...then I need to see this episode =O __________________

2008-03-06, 14:10	Link #10
Flandre Scarlet Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Nagisa's past is very impressive・・・ In this episode, imagination world scene (often at the beginnig) would make sense

2008-03-06, 14:21	Link #11
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	Looking at the spoilers, I can't wait for this episode.

2008-03-06, 14:43	Link #13
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	Finally, first direct mention of the Illusionary World by Nagisa, followed by the screen fading white and revealing the "CLANNAD" title, symbolizing the real beginning of the Clannad story. This is just the calm before the storm, brace yourselves for the last two episodes as well as hopefully a second series. Yukine's role has been slightly altered into being a matchmaker for Tomoya and Nagisa (Fuuko did not speak, so she doesn't count), while not a bad idea, it does take the "magic" away from her magic spells, as she saw Nagisa walking in the hallway before suggesting Tomoya should try after poor Sunohara's failed to find a girl after five attempts. Speaking of Sunohara, while often an idiot, this time he's at the right place at the right time, giving Tomoya the nudge he needs when he got cold feet and ran away from the Furukawa Picnic. Though still no confession or kiss yet. I'll write a bit more in the Spoilers thread, so join me there if you already know the story. Last edited by Kinny Riddle; 2008-03-06 at 14:54.

2008-03-06, 15:42	Link #15
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	What an super-b, heartwarming episode this was. Spoiler for this episode: Indeed, this episode was excellently suited to give us a taste of CLANNAD's main theme and message. Specially the last scene showing us the Furukawa family+Okazaki, followed by the ending song was specially touching despite (or maybe because of) its simplicity. I'm glad KyoAni shut me up and my prediction about this episode ending in a cliffhanger, this way was way better. __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux Last edited by Proto; 2008-03-06 at 16:09.

2008-03-06, 22:34	Link #16
Leo_Otaku Rewrite of the Life Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37	Really good episode ^-^ Looks like she will be practicing in the next one. I liked that Rainbow bread XD I want some...

2008-03-07, 00:51	Link #17
Phantom-Takaya INTJ IT Support Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Age: 40	That rainbow bread looks intimidating... Spoiler for Uh, this episode, of course.: Good old dad. Accidentally trip up your words when Nagisa is praising Okazaki. What was that again? "Does that make you fall in love with him all over again?" Nagisa's answer? "Yes" but she catches herself half-way. Hmm... >.>

2008-03-07, 02:17	Link #18
todkapuz Seiza + Katana = Ai-daiyo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston (Clear Lake), TX Age: 44	I'm still watching the Raw ..... but I had to comment ... I was so happy to see the Title after Nagisa's description of the story! ... I mean yes we see it each week... but not like that it finally begins! wakuwaku can't wat to see the rest of this episode. edit: okay.. and I have to say I Want some rainbow-pan! edit edit: I'm going to write my commentary AS I watch the episode... I guess because the op has me fired up ... so I would suggest not reading this until after you watch the episode.. Spoiler for okay my as it happens, sorry I'm not translating it for you.... I'll try REALLY hard not to spoil the future.. this is pointless to read anyhow: Nagisa no renshu.... I had a feeling as soon as she started talking about it, it was going to be inevitable... just love the whole conversation ... leading up to him asking if she can remember the title, but she can only explain it... of course I won't spoil you on IT ... but the pan up, fade out into the title made me so happy knowing what will come next. I love just how expressive they made the Robot ... even without a word.... you see it... Sanae-san running away with Ossan in pursuit never ceases to amuse me. Sorry, Rainbow-pan... sugoi! even if Okazaki doesnt care or understand. Nope, Okazaki, it wasn't Ossan or Sanae-san that told her such a horrible story. Keep trying. Watching Youhei look civilized I couldn't help but wadger the time until craziness... I guessed 15 seconds... looks like it was 18 seconds... Too bad the school doesnt have the story. Keep trying Okazaki, you'll find it! Good Luck Charm / Love spell time again! straight faced: "About Nagisa right?" And then she sees Nagisa and makes him do it.. I love it... but of course.. it's FUUKO! Good work Okazaki ... although Fuuko doesn't make a very convincing zombie... but at least it wasn't in vain, Nagisa still gets the win! So she tells the whole theatre club.. love the response of Kotomi-chan~~~! Do you? Do you remember Okazaki!? Making us think she found it, but it's only a cute Dango ... Dango! Dango! Dango! ^^ You only realize that after you call her? O freezed in a perfect pose of Akio-san at 12:02 .... didn't know a guy could do that ... anyhow.. was going to say ... I love how it takes them over 15 seconds to realize Sanae-san is right there serving them Tea when they are about to keep this a secret from her You two, your being loud, please quiet down..... they STILL haven't gotten away from her Fade out BGM ... serious part to come.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOO dont tell me they are going to cut this down ... they did.... they did ..... :-( Okay I'm going to re-watch that.... I honestly dont know if that is covered earlier in Nagisa's route.. but that is seen6801 material (after story) right there .... I felt WAY shorter than my translation of it ... feels like it is missnig a few of the details (all be it, they did pass through the important part of it) ... hmm.. well I guess the roof works as a backdrop to this ... ah that is what it is... everything about the setting that goes with the story is gone ... Okay, I'll let it go ... it works .. but makes me worried. God I love the play on words here... er ... katakana .. 1. ピクニック (pikunikku) 2. ピクピク (pikupiku) 3. ピクリン酸 (pikurinsan) and Nagisa's dead straight response to #3. and that of course it HAS to be PikuPiku! "hamburger request o-shimasu" ... never thouht I'd hear that in taht way in an anime. hehe... Okazaki still can't get used to teh family thing can he? Youhei, stop saying things that make too much sense. Okazaki you best be watching Ossan play! Okay, usally I dont complain about animation... but something looks really wrong with Okazaki's legs as he gets to the base... I mean I know his pants would be weird... but it seriously looks like is left legs are broken to me in those .. less than a second? worth of frames. But the responses to Ossan's comment make up for it I suppose especally Sanae-san's. I'm glad they left it upbeat. So the next episode is still leading up to the play. Spoiler for Real thoughts, condensed, based on game experience: Okay, again like I said above, I don't know if Ossan spills the beans in Nagisa's route like that, but I know that comes frmo the After Story... but the scene is different... and has even more meaning behind the confession to Okazaki at that time.... it feels lacking in some respects to me for that, considering we haven't made it to the play (which is still in Nagisa's route proper I do believe). That gives me worries about what is going to happen in the next 2 episodes, and throws in to doubt if we're going get a second season at least to me. But looking at it from an anime-only side..... this was a vey good episode... the elements are finally falling into place. I laughed, I was moved, I cried, and I got better.... what else can you ask for? .... so if I hadn't spoiled myself by workng on the Baka-Tsuki project, I'd give it a 10/10 ... but since I have... 9/10 for making me worry. edit edit edit? After watching sprocket/twh Spoiler for more of the same: I am glad I missed a few words... specifically the small exchange where Okazaki asks Ossan what he wanted to do, and Ossan just replied "that has nothing to do with this story" ... well so.. yes... it isn't very important ... but still... We still are missing the reason Nagisa went outside... I mean to me that is very important.. I mean it isn't necessary, but still... it would have made it stronger. However, on second thought.... that means we're not getting Akio's story right now.... so that actually is a good sign for the progression of a second series Eh, KyoAni is playing with my head! Last edited by todkapuz; 2008-03-07 at 04:50.