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Elo the Blue · 2010-08-28, 20:56

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Originally Posted by JC...

I think people misunderstand why some characters are portrayed as 'whiny'.

Picture it.

Your life's not going too well, but you are used to it and are comfortable.
One day your town becomes a battlezone, you see neighbours being harmed and killed in the fighting and you do your best to help the situation, scary huh? Your life is in danger and the place where you live is being destroyed.

Then you're helped by the your countries army who help you and the people around you, you're asked to help them and after a while you're forced to kill and risk being killed on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure all you lot would be quite happy with that, but some people would not.

Well said and I couldn't agree more. A lot of characters in various Gundam series get knocked for being "whiny" but when you analyze their predicaments, you realize, they're pretty justified in being whiny.

brightman · 2010-08-28, 21:11

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Originally Posted by JC...

I think people misunderstand why some characters are portrayed as 'whiny'.

Picture it.

Your life's not going too well, but you are used to it and are comfortable.
One day your town becomes a battlezone, you see neighbours being harmed and killed in the fighting and you do your best to help the situation, scary huh? Your life is in danger and the place where you live is being destroyed.

Then you're helped by the your countries army who help you and the people around you, you're asked to help them and after a while you're forced to kill and risk being killed on a daily basis. I'm pretty sure all you lot would be quite happy with that, but some people would not.

I don't think anyone's misunderstanding anything. The guys are in tough situation and its quite natural that they would be doing things like crying and complaining and what not.

However, just because its understandable to viewers that they complain, doesn't mean that the audience are supposed to tolerate it, or think that its the only way the characters should react.

Even villains sometimes do things that people may empathize with, but that doesn't mean the audience will still accept it as the right thing to do.

Roloko vi Britannia · 2010-10-09, 12:53

Good news guys 0079 is getting re-released and this time with an Japanese audio track. The series will be released in two parts in 2011. I'm so happy about this since I was too into Zeta at the time to watch 0079 when Bandai was streaming it on ANN, youtube, and Crunchyroll back in Winter/Spring.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...h-english-subs

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(One episode out of the original 43-episode length was never dubbed in English, at the request of creator and director Yoshiyuki Tomino.)

Why is this can someone explain why this one particular episode will not be released??

brightman · 2010-10-09, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Roloko vi Britannia

Why is this can someone explain why this one particular episode will not be released??

It was not dubbed originally because of Tomino's request... Just a filler episode with some bizarre story about a bunch of orphans and a Zeon soldier who uses his Zaku to throw boulders around at enemies, along with some real quality animation.

Roloko vi Britannia · 2010-10-09, 13:25

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Originally Posted by brightman

It was not dubbed originally because of Tomino's request... Just a filler episode with some bizarre story about a bunch of orphans and a Zeon soldier who uses his Zaku to throw boulders around at enemies, along with some real quality animation.

oh I see so it really has no real relevance to the story then. Ok as long as they are not leaving out any major plot twists and whatnot I don't care.

JC... · 2010-10-09, 13:25

That seems interesting, maybe I will get it...

I wish they'd re-animate it though.

Deacon Blues · 2010-10-09, 14:56

Yet another project that we subbed gets licensed... congrats Bandai for taking nearly a decade!

JC... · 2010-10-09, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Yet another project that we subbed gets licensed... congrats Bandai for taking nearly a decade!

That sucks. Well. You do good work.

Can't wait for C.D.A.

All I can do is encourage you though. I would donate, but I'm not sure if my parents would let me... unless I get super strength and throw cash across half the world.

brightman · 2010-10-09, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Yet another project that we subbed gets licensed... congrats Bandai for taking nearly a decade!

Well you will still have the best version of Cucuruz Doan.

Elo the Blue · 2010-10-09, 18:37

I'm looking forward to the re-release.

Roloko vi Britannia · 2010-10-09, 22:22

Oh Yay Crunchyroll is going to bring back the 0079 series for streaming now along with 00 and Zeta I can get the another chance to watch 0079 and this time I will ^_^

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...nbane-macademi

JC... · 2010-10-10, 02:45

Yay, I can watch Zeta again!

Obi-Wan · 2010-10-18, 05:16

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Yet another project that we subbed gets licensed... congrats Bandai for taking nearly a decade!

I find it funny that I went out of my way to make our 0079 subtitles on par with what Bandai would've had if they ever released it subbed, and a little bit more than a year after we finish, they announce 0079 for R1 with subs. I'm all but convinced they saw the download totals and were like, "Hey, maybe this will sell." Interested in seeing how my translation stacks up to theirs too since I imagine they'll be translating from the same JP scripts that I did.

Same as with the other two fansub releases I translated, I'll support the official release, but I really hope this uses the remastered video from the R2 release. And that episode 15 is included as a sub-only extra. Really don't see them attempting to get a dub done for episode 15 seeing how they didn't bring back the cast for the Zeta dub in 2004, but it'd be lame to just cut that episode out of this release just because of no dub.

jonli · 2010-10-19, 03:47

^ Maybe they'll just rip it off of yours :P

Obi-Wan · 2010-10-21, 23:27

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Originally Posted by jonli

^ Maybe they'll just rip it off of yours :P

Wouldn't be the first time. I can't remember which one but one of the episodes of the Gundam Seed dub was almost word for word exactly like my fansub script.

Tanooki · 2010-12-31, 20:16

Quick question, I am trying to track down some info on this Mobile Suit Gundam Book. I believe it is one of the books they had for the translators when they first thought to bring the series into English, but really am not sure:

JC... · 2011-01-03, 09:48

Do you mean the exact same book? Or different editons? I have the first MSG book, you can buy them on Amazon, or all in one. Not sure about the space battleship book though.

Tanooki · 2011-01-03, 10:55

Well info on that run of books not this one specifically.

fizzmaister · 2011-01-03, 14:07

About the MSG novels, they were first translated in 1990 as a trilogy and then rereleased as a single volume with updated spelling in 2004. The single volume release been impossible to find at regular price for a long time, but the prices for the individual volumes still aren't bad.

Tanooki · 2011-01-03, 15:25

Mine is all Japanese are you referring to an English translation?

2010-10-09, 14:56	Link #87
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Yet another project that we subbed gets licensed... congrats Bandai for taking nearly a decade! __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2010-10-09, 18:37	Link #90
Elo the Blue Mama there goes that man! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: UK	I'm looking forward to the re-release. __________________

2010-10-09, 22:22	Link #91
Roloko vi Britannia The Dark Empress Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Battleship Hyperion Age: 33	Oh Yay Crunchyroll is going to bring back the 0079 series for streaming now along with 00 and Zeta I can get the another chance to watch 0079 and this time I will ^_^ http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...nbane-macademi __________________

2011-01-03, 14:07	Link #99
fizzmaister The Tall One Join Date: Jan 2006	About the MSG novels, they were first translated in 1990 as a trilogy and then rereleased as a single volume with updated spelling in 2004. The single volume release been impossible to find at regular price for a long time, but the prices for the individual volumes still aren't bad. __________________

2010-10-09, 13:25	Link #86
JC... I am a Pie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In a fantasy.	That seems interesting, maybe I will get it... I wish they'd re-animate it though.

2010-10-10, 02:45	Link #92
JC... I am a Pie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In a fantasy.	Yay, I can watch Zeta again!

2010-10-19, 03:47	Link #94
jonli JONLIの憂' Join Date: Apr 2004	^ Maybe they'll just rip it off of yours :P

2010-12-31, 20:16	Link #96
Tanooki Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010	Quick question, I am trying to track down some info on this Mobile Suit Gundam Book. I believe it is one of the books they had for the translators when they first thought to bring the series into English, but really am not sure:

2011-01-03, 09:48	Link #97
JC... I am a Pie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: In a fantasy.	Do you mean the exact same book? Or different editons? I have the first MSG book, you can buy them on Amazon, or all in one. Not sure about the space battleship book though.

2011-01-03, 10:55	Link #98
Tanooki Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010	Well info on that run of books not this one specifically.

2011-01-03, 15:25	Link #100
Tanooki Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010	Mine is all Japanese are you referring to an English translation?