2010-01-27, 00:03 | Link #5722 |
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Bush didn't really do anything at all for like the first year of his term other than take vacations and try desperately to get his cabinet appointed. Obama tried to go right ahead with his goals the second he got into office and hit the ground running. As far as I've been able to tell as long as you don't do anything at all or try to make any reforms your approval rating will rarely drop in politics, because doing stuff will always upset one demograhpic or another and thus cause your overall approval rating to go down.
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2010-01-27, 00:10 | Link #5723 |
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^Additionally, Obama, in just his first year, is one of the most polarizing Presidents in (current) history. So, of course his polls will always be screwed up one way or another.
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2010-01-27, 00:13 | Link #5724 | |
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Right now Obama is upsetting both political parties for various reasons. Not to mention he's been pushing that Healthcare Bill through that the majority of people DO NOT WANT. Hasn't Obama played more rounds of Golf in his first year, than Bush did in 8 years? The left is still waiting for Gitmo to close, troops out of Iraq, troops out of Afghanistan, Universal Healthcare, Cap & Trade, increased taxes on the rich, yada yada. And whatever happened to no earmarks, no special interests, no lobbyists controlling the Government, transparency in everything, no taxing the middle class, etc, etc? |
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2010-01-27, 00:20 | Link #5725 |
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One thing that really irked me was how he was perceived during his candidacy and immediately after his presidency. He is the miracle man who is going to quick-fix everyone's lives. He is the one who will bring the need for change. The fact is most of us don't receive change very well, so we are pretty much getting in the way of our own ambition for change. The self interest groups (i.e. insurance companies for one such example) only helping us to verify that very fact.
Memories are fleeting. Obama is certainly way over his head if he thought people are ready for change just because that might be what they want or need.
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2010-01-27, 00:21 | Link #5726 | |
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Other then the TARP bill which was so full of pork i was surprise it didn't go oink. all the while financial reform and the economy was on the back burner.
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2010-01-27, 02:08 | Link #5727 | |
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troops out of iraq... thats deny lobbyist power special interest as in the INDUSTRIAL MILITARY COMPLEX troops out of Afghanistan... Dido Universal Healthcare (PST... It's not universal health care... it only insures an additional 30 million americans) Taking away lobbying power from the IMC's means you gotta give the insurance lobby some more power Cap n Trade Dido, because special interests and lobbyists own washington whether it's a dem or a republican in the presidency/house/senate Bush batted for big oil and haliburton, obama bats for vapor greentech. |
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2010-01-27, 02:20 | Link #5728 | |
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As someone who is opposed to those positions, I'm glad they haven't happened. But that's besides the point. He's long on promises, short on keeping them. And up until last week, he had a bigger majority in both Houses of Congress, than the Republicans have had since 1923. He was suppose to be against Special Interests, yet he caters to them every bit as his predecessor did if not more so. God I wish there was a way to kick all of them to the curb. From local, state, and federal. Just start over from scratch. |
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2010-01-27, 02:32 | Link #5729 | |
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2010-01-27, 03:10 | Link #5731 | |
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I voted for Bush because he was the best of the worst. He was far superior to Al Gore, and far superior to John Kerry. Did I vote for him in the 2000 and 2004 primaries? Hell no. But when the chips were down and it was either him or AG/JK, I had to make the least painful choice for the country. Did I vote for McCain in the Primary in 2008? Nope. He was the LAST person I would have picked on the list. But again, he was better than Obama. However slight. It was a hold my nose and vote every election. I haven't been excited about a Presidential Candidate ever. Obama lies in every single speech he gives. Just youtube "Obama lies" and see how many times he contradicts himself. Look at the people he surrounds himself with. Bill Ayers. His Church Pastor Jeremiah Wright. Secretary Timothy F. Geithner. Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr.. Secretary Janet A. Napolitano(ask Arizonians what they think about her). White House Chief of Staff Rahm I. Emanuel. Robert Gibbs(the guy makes Baghdad Bob look intelligent). I read somewhere that Obama had the lowest % of Staff and Cabinet Members of ANY President in History, who had experience in the Private sector. Something like 8% when the average president had 50-60%. Umm hello. If you want the economy to recover, hire people who know WTF is going on. Do you know why Government Unemployment is only around 4%, when the private sector is well over 10%? Or why the average Federal Government employee makes over 70k a year, yet Private Sector averages just over 40k a year? This whole thing stinks and the American Government needs an enema. |
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2010-01-27, 03:16 | Link #5732 |
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Private sector... 40k.... k that's just asinine. Because I bet you the industries lobbying washington have a much higher entry level pay, plus cite your sources, where does that 70k come from how is it calculated?
The point is, k obama lied... so did bush... Government is way too influenced by the private sector as it is, but then again the private sector is what we need to get us back into the boom bust cycle we have been in. If it wasn't for the rampant greed and the lack of humanity that most ceos possessed I wouldn't mind deregulation but the fact that we DON'T have a free market, but instead an economy controlled by oligopolies and heavily vested corporate interests in politics, I find my trust in the private sector and the government severly lacking. It's fine to make money, no doubt about it, but to gut an entire company, and run it into the ground and then to get bailed out and then for those that recieved bail out money to give record bonuses for losing billions of dollars is just asinine. Only in a corrupt corporate world are these actions "just". |
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2010-01-27, 03:24 | Link #5734 | |
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2010-01-27, 03:31 | Link #5735 |
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Remember when he said...
"I will finally end the abuse of no-bid contracts once and for all..." Obama pledged to end the abuse of no bid contracts, not put an end to them. Bush abused them, Obama is simply using them appropriately. (You guys need to retake "Politico Speak 101") |
2010-01-27, 03:40 | Link #5736 | |
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From what I have read so far it is next to impossible to fight a religion-like bias that is based more on belief/prejudice than anything else with factual sound logic. There are people who are prone to fall for polemics for a lack of (self-)critical thinking. Self-critical... because you will always have to ask yourself, am I just biased now... do I really have all the news input (e.g. read left AND right media sources) to form my own sound oppinion. If you want to fight against the ever lobbying presence of the guys in the corvette forum or FOX (and so on) this will be a fulltime job, since you will never get the underlying bias away. Besides, most of the people on this planet are biased towards something anyway, and one bias can counterbalance another bias, that gives room for those people who want to belong to neither side.
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2010-01-27, 03:47 | Link #5737 | |
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If you can't even believe what you see with your own eyes, well then what can I say? |
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2010-01-27, 03:51 | Link #5738 | |
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Well anyway I think we need a new news story now so how about this one about the apparent unpreparedness of the United States against a potential biochemical attack. |
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2010-01-27, 04:05 | Link #5739 |
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Mystery of the Missing Millionare: spotted, but not found.
Shopowners 'spot missing millionare Herman Rockefeller' 1) They found his Prius somewhere. For those who read my sig, I hate this car, but that doesn't make a difference. 2) He was spotted buying a pie, shortly before the media released information that he was missing. For those that don't know, this guy touched down in Melbourne yesterday, and was last seen driving his Prius out of Long Term parking. He hasn't contacted his family since landing at Melbourne Airport (tempted to call it Melbourne International).
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Further the problem in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't restrictive rules of engagement. Unless you think "No bombing civilians if it can be avoided." is too restrictive. It's that we haven't done a very good job at restoring the infrastructure in both. We did better in Iraq, though Iraq had more to start with and got far more resources, so that's not saying that much. Quote:
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Let's be honest here, the private sector created the current problems. By putting short term gain ahead of long term stability, we get the current financial mess. After all, who cares if there's a possibility if your questionable home loans might be defaulted on leaving your bank critically short on cash to pay your own debt. It means you're getting 5.32% growth this quarter instead of steady 2.56% growth, and you'll be long gone with a 9 figure bonus by the time that happens, so it'll be your successor's problem.
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