International Saimoe League 2013

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Ichuki

Oh sorry I thought you meant like upsets happened in Emerald 3.

Possibly

Sky Raker> Kud
Ririchiyo > Yui
Kotegawa > Silica
Holo> Nadeko
Rin> Louise

Thanks, and interesting.

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Found something interesting for today. For the votes received in first 12 hours of today's match, I did limited partial vote check, and even though I didn't use all the Vote Checking tools available, I caught 2064 multivotes, which is the highest count for first 12 hours in Emerald Period. Anyone has any idea why we have this increase in cheating attempts today?

[Ichuki]

Originally Posted by wontaek

Thanks, and interesting.

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Found something interesting for today. For the votes received in first 12 hours of today's match, I did limited partial vote check, and even though I didn't use all the Vote Checking tools available, I caught 2064 multivotes, which is the highest count for first 12 hours in Emerald Period. Anyone has any idea why we have this increase in cheating attempts today?

Hmm that's very strange. I wonder which characters are the multi votes are going to as well and which country it is coming from. My guess for the increased cheating attempts are since it is summer they have more time to multi vote if the multi voting people are student aged.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Ichuki

Hmm that's very strange. I wonder which characters are the multi votes are going to as well and which country it is coming from. My guess for the increased cheating attempts are since it is summer they have more time to multi vote if the multi voting people are student aged.

Following are the top 8 receivers of the multivotes in alphabetical order.

Aragaki Ayase Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) Hasegawa Kobato Kōsaka Kirino Nakamura Yuri Saber Tachibana Kanade Takanashi Rikka

[Ichuki]

Originally Posted by wontaek

Following are the top 8 receivers of the multivotes in alphabetical order.

Aragaki Ayase Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) Hasegawa Kobato Kōsaka Kirino Nakamura Yuri Saber Tachibana Kanade Takanashi Rikka

I'm kind of surprised the OreImo trio and Saber is getting alot of multivotes.

[speedyexpress48]

ARENA 01: Chitanda Eru [Tōwa Erio]
ARENA 02: Nyarlathotep [Araragi Karen]
ARENA 03: [Nibutani Shinka] Konoe Subaru
ARENA 04: Kirishima Shōko [Takanashi Rikka]
ARENA 05: Misaki Mei [Momo Belia Deviluke]
ARENA 06: [Kurasaki Fūko (Sky Raker)] Nōmi Kudryavka
ARENA 07: [Kashiwazaki Sena] Makise Kurisu
ARENA 08: Honma Meiko [Hasegawa Kobato]
ARENA 09: [Kuroyukihime] Kanzaki H. Aria
ARENA 10: [Aoyama Nanami] Sanka Rea
ARENA 11: [Akemi Homura] Takanashi Tōka
ARENA 12: Yui [Shirakiin Ririchiyo]
ARENA 13: Yūki Mikan [Yuzuriha Inori]
ARENA 14: Yūki Asuna [Araragi Tsukihi]
ARENA 15: [Kotegawa Yui] Ayano Keiko (Silica)
ARENA 16: [Natsume Rin] Mikazuki Yozora
ARENA 17: Kirigaya Suguha [Oshino Shinobu]
ARENA 18: [Shiina Mashiro] Roromiya Karuta
ARENA 19: [Kagami Kuro, Matsuoka Miu] Crea Dolosera, Kyan Nanafa
ARENA 20: [Misaka Mikoto] Sakagami Tomoyo
ARENA 21: Iwasawa Masami [Victorique de Blois]
ARENA 22: [Saber] Hirasawa Ui
ARENA 23: Illyasviel von Einzbern [Eucliwood Hellscythe]
ARENA 24: [Tōsaka Rin] Louise Vallière
ARENA 25: Holo [Sengoku Nadeko]
ARENA 26: Akiyama Mio [Senjōgahara Hitagi]
ARENA 27: Last Order [Nakano Azusa]
ARENA 28: [Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko)] C.C.
ARENA 29: [Suzumiya Haruhi] Nymph
ARENA 30: Izumi Konata [Konjiki no Yami]
ARENA 31: Yui-nyan [Charlotte Dunois]
ARENA 32: Katsura Hinagiku [Kōsaka Kirino]
ARENA 33: Tachibana Kanade [Fujibayashi Kyō]
ARENA 34: [Aragaki Ayase] Hirasawa Yui
ARENA 35: Nagato Yuki [Nakamura Yuri]
ARENA 36: Shana [Kuroi Mato]
ARENA 37: [Aisaka Taiga] Furukawa Nagisa

[Noe]

ARENA 01: [Chitanda Eru] Tōwa Erio
ARENA 02: Nyarlathotep [Araragi Karen]
ARENA 03: Nibutani Shinka [Konoe Subaru]
ARENA 04: Kirishima Shōko [Takanashi Rikka]
ARENA 05: Misaki Mei [Momo Belia Deviluke]
ARENA 06: [Kurasaki Fūko (Sky Raker)] Nōmi Kudryavka
ARENA 07: Kashiwazaki Sena [Makise Kurisu]
ARENA 08: [Honma Meiko] Hasegawa Kobato
ARENA 09: [Kuroyukihime] Kanzaki H. Aria
ARENA 10: Aoyama Nanami [Sanka Rea]
ARENA 11: [Akemi Homura] Takanashi Tōka
ARENA 12: [Yui] Shirakiin Ririchiyo
ARENA 13: [Yūki Mikan] Yuzuriha Inori
ARENA 14: [Yūki Asuna] Araragi Tsukihi
ARENA 15: Kotegawa Yui [Ayano Keiko (Silica)]
ARENA 16: Natsume Rin [Mikazuki Yozora]
ARENA 17: Kirigaya Suguha [Oshino Shinobu]
ARENA 18: [Shiina Mashiro] Roromiya Karuta
ARENA 19: [Kagami Kuro, Matsuoka Miu] Crea Dolosera, Kyan Nanafa
ARENA 20: Misaka Mikoto [Sakagami Tomoyo]
ARENA 21: Iwasawa Masami [Victorique de Blois]
ARENA 22: [Saber] Hirasawa Ui
ARENA 23: [Illyasviel von Einzbern] Eucliwood Hellscythe
ARENA 24: Tōsaka Rin [Louise Vallière]
ARENA 25: [Holo] Sengoku Nadeko
ARENA 26: Akiyama Mio [Senjōgahara Hitagi]
ARENA 27: Last Order [Nakano Azusa]
ARENA 28: Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) [C.C.]
ARENA 29: [Suzumiya Haruhi] Nymph
ARENA 30: Izumi Konata [Konjiki no Yami]
ARENA 31: [Yui-nyan] Charlotte Dunois
ARENA 32: [Katsura Hinagiku] Kōsaka Kirino
ARENA 33: [Tachibana Kanade] Fujibayashi Kyō
ARENA 34: [Aragaki Ayase] Hirasawa Yui
ARENA 35: Nagato Yuki [Nakamura Yuri]
ARENA 36: Shana [Kuroi Mato]
ARENA 37: [Aisaka Taiga] Furukawa Nagisa

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Ichuki

I'm kind of surprised the OreImo trio and Saber is getting alot of multivotes.

I do need to say that difference in number of multivotes received between top 8 and the next 8 is small. Different vote checking tools, that weren't used when I uncovered these 2064 multivotes, uncovered even more illegitimate votes for these characters.

[Rajura]

Can't seem to post my votes from my iPad... will try later after work.

This is inconvenient.

[Coldlight]

ARENA 01: Chitanda Eru [Tōwa Erio]
ARENA 02: Nyarlathotep [Araragi Karen]
ARENA 03: Nibutani Shinka [Konoe Subaru]
ARENA 04: Kirishima Shōko [Takanashi Rikka]
ARENA 05: [Misaki Mei] Momo Belia Deviluke
ARENA 06: Kurasaki Fūko (Sky Raker) [Nōmi Kudryavka]
ARENA 07: [Kashiwazaki Sena] Makise Kurisu
ARENA 08: Honma Meiko [Hasegawa Kobato]
ARENA 09: [Kuroyukihime] Kanzaki H. Aria
ARENA 10: [Aoyama Nanami] Sanka Rea
ARENA 11: [Akemi Homura] Takanashi Tōka
ARENA 12: Yui [Shirakiin Ririchiyo]
ARENA 13: [Yūki Mikan] Yuzuriha Inori
ARENA 14: Yūki Asuna [Araragi Tsukihi]
ARENA 15: Kotegawa Yui [Ayano Keiko (Silica)]
ARENA 16: [Natsume Rin] Mikazuki Yozora
ARENA 17: Kirigaya Suguha [Oshino Shinobu]
ARENA 18: Shiina Mashiro [Roromiya Karuta]
ARENA 19: Kagami Kuro, Matsuoka Miu [Abstained] Crea Dolosera, Kyan Nanafa
ARENA 20: [Misaka Mikoto] Sakagami Tomoyo
ARENA 21: Iwasawa Masami [Victorique de Blois]
ARENA 22: [Saber] Hirasawa Ui
ARENA 23: Illyasviel von Einzbern [Eucliwood Hellscythe]
ARENA 24: Tōsaka Rin [Louise Vallière]
ARENA 25: Holo [Sengoku Nadeko]
ARENA 26: Akiyama Mio [Senjōgahara Hitagi]
ARENA 27: [Last Order] Nakano Azusa
ARENA 28: [Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko)] C.C.
ARENA 29: Suzumiya Haruhi [Nymph]
ARENA 30: Izumi Konata [Konjiki no Yami]
ARENA 31: [Yui-nyan] Charlotte Dunois
ARENA 32: [Katsura Hinagiku] Kōsaka Kirino
ARENA 33: [Tachibana Kanade] Fujibayashi Kyō
ARENA 34: [Aragaki Ayase] Hirasawa Yui
ARENA 35: Nagato Yuki [Nakamura Yuri]
ARENA 36: [Shana] Kuroi Mato
ARENA 37: [Aisaka Taiga] Furukawa Nagisa

[broken270]

Originally Posted by wontaek

I do need to say that difference in number of multivotes received between top 8 and the next 8 is small. Different vote checking tools, that weren't used when I uncovered these 2064 multivotes, uncovered even more illegitimate votes for these characters.

Do you think it might be that people are starting to realize that there is only this and Topaz period left before PostSeason begins, so they're trying to use every means necessary to get their characters in the most beneficial spot to have the upper hand come PostSeason?

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by broken270

Do you think it might be that people are starting to realize that there is only this and Topaz period left before PostSeason begins, so they're trying to use every means necessary to get their characters in the most beneficial spot to have the upper hand come PostSeason?

That probably is one of the big reason for this, though I suspect it isn't the only reason, since some of the older traits remain. I do wish they will learn that these tricks are likely to fail. It was rather easy to catch this particular early multivoting rush.

[Team Rocket Elite]

No really big upsets this time so the results are fairly normal. Last Order made an attempt at a big upset but fell quite a bit short of pulling it off. Still a pretty good attempt, though. Other strong performances included Saber, Suguha and Yozora, but they were all expected to win those matches. Sena's performance was a bit weak but she wasn't really close to losing.

Having Kanade take a loss in a meaningless exhibition match was probably a bad idea for Kuroneko and Misaka. Kanade looks to be in top from lately while Kuroneko is in a slow decline. Kuroneko used to look like Kanade's equal but seems to have faded to roughly halfway between Kanade and Eucliwood. I wonder if Kuroneko has missed her chance to put a regular season loss on Kanade's record.

Originally Posted by wontaek

Following are the top 8 receivers of the multivotes in alphabetical order.

Aragaki Ayase Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) Hasegawa Kobato Kōsaka Kirino Nakamura Yuri Saber Tachibana Kanade Takanashi Rikka

Tachibana Kanade? Seriously? I guess they weren't happy with just 70% and really wanted that tripling or something.

[Sackett]

Are there a large number double voting? Or a few with a ton of attempts at multi-voting.

First case could be caused by an influx of new voters.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Team Rocket Elite

Tachibana Kanade? Seriously? I guess they weren't happy with just 70% and really wanted that tripling or something.

I think it is more likely that their real goal was to boost someone else, and decided to do 75%Kanade/25%her opponent randomization in Kanade's arena in hope of disguising their multivotes. If several multivoter does the same, each having different favorite, what may happen is that the real targets get some boost, but Kanade gets more boost because most of multivoters kind of gives up trying to affect her match and do the 75/25 in that arena.

Originally Posted by Sackett

Are there a large number double voting? Or a few with a ton of attempts at multi-voting.

First case could be caused by an influx of new voters.

There are good number of both kind as well as several intermediate one, where someone tries to stuff a dozen or two multivotes. We really do have great diversity in types of multivoters. I just don't know why so many of them thought that they could get away with doing some early hour rushes. I really wonder what the multivoter count at 12th hour will be in the next match.

[Ichuki]

ARENA 01: [Nōmi Kudryavka] Roromiya Karuta
ARENA 02: [Aoyama Nanami] Kirishima Shōko
ARENA 03: [Kurasaki Fūko (Sky Raker)] Kirigaya Suguha
ARENA 04: Ayano Keiko (Silica) [Kanzaki H. Aria]
ARENA 05: Misaki Mei [Shiina Mashiro]
ARENA 06: [Nyarlathotep] Yūki Asuna
ARENA 07: [Nibutani Shinka] Araragi Tsukihi
ARENA 08: [Hasegawa Kobato] Araragi Karen
ARENA 09: [Natsume Rin] Makise Kurisu
ARENA 10: [Yui] Yūki Mikan
ARENA 11: Mikazuki Yozora [Akemi Homura]
ARENA 12: [Tōwa Erio] Oshino Shinobu
ARENA 13: Honma Meiko [Takanashi Tōka]
ARENA 14: [Kuroyukihime] Shirakiin Ririchiyo
ARENA 15: [Kashiwazaki Sena] Konoe Subaru
ARENA 16: Kotegawa Yui [Yuzuriha Inori]
ARENA 17: Momo Belia Deviluke [Takanashi Rikka]
ARENA 18: [Sanka Rea] Chitanda Eru
ARENA 19: [Akashi Kaoru, Ogata Matake] Yasuoka Shion, Otonashi Hatsune
ARENA 20: [Sengoku Nadeko] Furukawa Nagisa
ARENA 21: Suzumiya Haruhi [Illyasviel von Einzbern]
ARENA 22: Holo [Shana]
ARENA 23: Hirasawa Yui [C.C.]
ARENA 24: [Tōsaka Rin] Aisaka Taiga
ARENA 25: [Iwasawa Masami] Tachibana Kanade
ARENA 26: Saber [Fujibayashi Kyō]
ARENA 27: Nakano Azusa [Victorique de Blois]
ARENA 28: Nagato Yuki [Senjōgahara Hitagi]
ARENA 29: Yui-nyan [Katsura Hinagiku]
ARENA 30: Nakamura Yuri [Izumi Konata]
ARENA 31: Sakagami Tomoyo [Kuroi Mato]
ARENA 32: Last Order [Konjiki no Yami]
ARENA 33: Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko) [Charlotte Dunois]
ARENA 34: Akiyama Mio [Hirasawa Ui]
ARENA 35: Aragaki Ayase [Abstained] Kōsaka Kirino
ARENA 36: Louise Vallière [Eucliwood Hellscythe]
ARENA 37: [Nymph] Misaka Mikoto

[wontaek]

hoho, At least 482 multivotes in first 76 minutes of voting. The top 8 characters in most multivotes uncovered are, in alphabetical order,

Akiyama Mio
Eucliwood Hellscythe
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko)
Hasegawa Kobato
Kashiwazaki Sena
Nakamura Yuri
Shiina Mashiro
Tachibana Kanade

[Ichuki]

Originally Posted by wontaek

hoho, At least 482 multivotes in first 76 minutes of voting. The top 8 characters in most multivotes uncovered are, in alphabetical order,

Akiyama Mio
Eucliwood Hellscythe
Gokō Ruri (Kuroneko)
Hasegawa Kobato
Kashiwazaki Sena
Nakamura Yuri
Shiina Mashiro
Tachibana Kanade

I wonder why people gives Tenshi and Kuroneko multivotes they already do like 60%+ without them.

[wontaek]

Originally Posted by Ichuki

I wonder why people gives Tenshi and Kuroneko multivotes they already do like 60%+ without them.

I still think what I said in http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1194 may partially answer this question. A multivoter may not want to have too many abstains in his ballot, so in matches he isn't interested in, he just vote for someone likely to win in hope of avoiding suspicion. Since we have several different multivoters pushing different characters, the character in a match unlikely to lose may get those multivotes since many multivoters will just vote for that character in order to make his ballot look more "natural" and help hide his real intentions.

[Ichuki]

Originally Posted by wontaek

I still think what I said in http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1194 may partially answer this question. A multivoter may not want to have too many abstains in his ballot, so in matches he isn't interested in, he just vote for someone likely to win in hope of avoiding suspicion. Since we have several different multivoters pushing different characters, the character in a match unlikely to lose may get those multivotes since many multivoters will just vote for that character in order to make his ballot look more "natural" and help hide his real intentions.

Now thinking about it stuffing multi-votes in power horse characters like Kanade might make it less suspicious than ballot stuff someone like Holo, C.C. , Konata, or Tsukihi as well. I agree with the natural vote explanation as well. About yesterday's cumulative rankings I noticed Konata and Ui were highlighted red what does that mean?

[hinakatbklyn]

Originally Posted by Ichuki

About yesterday's cumulative rankings I noticed Konata and Ui were highlighted red what does that mean?

Similar to last year, the challengers highlighted in red were officially eliminated from competing in the postseason. However, after looking at the current cumulative standing, there are other challengers besides Konata and Ui who are eliminated from the postseason.