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2011-11-11, 13:29 | Link #6804 |
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Max being strong imo is there only to represent FT's power as a whole; its members could beat down anyone if they wanted to but were knee-deep in debt, it was even commented on in this very chapter. Plus he isn't stronger than Natsu, he still lost the match.
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@ Silver, I know some basketball. What Ann Minh is saying is true to the conversation. I also admitted to not knowing their ages correctly in an earlier post. Sorry I didn't know their ages it does make sense now, but as I said. Max should be considered a very powerful mage in all of Fiore then. If you're powerful before the time skip, you're still powerful after too.
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2011-11-11, 13:38 | Link #6806 |
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I can see why Gildarts forgave Laxus, seeing as he wasn't around when Laxus wen t loco.
Which reminds me, i need to finish that arc. Oh well, at least Laxus is cute and his personality isn't terrible anymore. Anywho, i think i should stop reading and try to just watch the show. I like how the anime director, uhh directs everything. The things with the writing is that even during the dialogue, i feel like "oh, that is something Mashima would write" and we're not even supposed to realize the author is there. Still waiting for more Lucy & Wendy with some Juvia, Levy and Cana in there. Hardly care about the rest until i'm satisfied with at least Lucy or Wendy. |
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2011-11-11, 13:48 | Link #6809 | |
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Sadly I think my dream of a competent Lucy is many, many chapters away. I think there would be less need of nakama power if Lucy was a factor. @Krono you forgot the time the bird guy pwned Natsu so bad Gray had to step in before he finished eating him. Edit: Sorry didn't know his name was Fukurou was the name, yeah I mention that too, about it being the rematch in an earlier post.
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And honestly, are we really that surprised the old human hating woman is Grandeene? Which was one of the things I liked about this chapter. More backgrounds and bigger plot threads about to be revealed. |
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2011-11-11, 14:07 | Link #6812 |
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Fukurou eating Natsu is in there.
Though what isn't is that Max apparently had just won round 1 at the start of this chapter. The fight we got to see was the rematch. Natsu's age is unknown, as is Gajeel's. Given that they're pretty much treated as the same age as Gray and Elfman who are 18, you can reasonably safely treat Natsu and Gajeel as being 18. |
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2011-11-11, 14:28 | Link #6815 |
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I do see a point why some people think that Max is now stronger than Natsu is a problem.
I believe that people have some kind of power cap or limit, no matter how much they train.I don't mind the timeskip used as a plotdevice to produce more powerfull enemies, after the S-rank arc there weren't that many people left that were stronger than the core FT team in the whole world. But making someone who was really weak pre-timeskip on par with Natsu now, is not credible. That's almost saying that every other guild in Fiore is now on par or stronger than the pre-time skip major vilains from the previous arcs like Jelal, Oraceon seis, Grimoire Heart etc. |
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I'll accept the lightning ability as maybe Natsu knew some base lightning magic or picked it up and after the last arc against Hades learned to use it. But this battle, and the implications that Natsu and company are no longer special makes no sense whatsoever.
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Interesting. So Porl is Grandine? Does that mean the other dragons have taken human form? Or was there something that forced the dragons out of our world, and thus the only way to stay was to take human form, and Grandine was the only one to do so?
As for the Max thing... I go at this from a slightly different angle. Before, the other mages of FT were fairly good, but the core members really seemed to overpower them. It pretty much meant that only the core members could really do anything. But if Max is any indication, then several of them have gotten stronger, and so the time skip brings them on par (almost?) with the mains. Now I'm just waiting for Lucy to get competent, and Wendy to become a better fighter. Other than that, I'll add that this felt like "get everything back to status quo" chapter. I mean, they just can't get rid of Makarov, can they? Can't even let him step down. Ah well, Laxus is back, although I would have liked a more gradual redemption. Still, it feels like he's learned his lesson, so I don't have too much of a problem with it. Now, what is "that" that Romeo is talking about? And why do I feel like things are being drawn out? |
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If the story had been that, in 7 years, Max came into his own, and went from the sixth decile to join Natsu in the first, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Good for him. But that's not the story we've been presented. Even now, Max doesn't have the confidence of an elite mage. Even if he's the strongest of the weakest FT (and we have no word on that), he's not an outlier. He's not the new Gildartz, or even a new Erza. He's still just one of the guys in the weakest guild in Fiore. If Sabertooth got first place with just 5 strong guys, don't you think Max and his friends should have been able to keep FT from last, if they'd been that strong? And if he's not that strong, what does that say about Natsu and the others' ranking? How could they fall to, say, the third decile in just 7 years? |
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