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Enternal · 2013-09-18, 04:50

I was more surprised that Fate and Nanoha did not go with them... ok I was surprised for the wrong thing but still sad not to see Fate, Hayate, and Nanoha together again and meeting up with Yuuno as well.

Anyways, security? I'm also quite surprised how she managed to get in so let see if it gets explained. I'm more assuming that security really is tight and not cracked up like the examples Craxuan gave us (which is depressing by the way).

Meltyred · 2013-09-18, 15:23

Short Answer: Magic.
She's a witch, of course that what she would use.

novalysis · 2013-09-18, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Meltyred

Short Answer: Magic.
She's a witch, of course that what she would use.

Against security made out of magic, that is.

00-Raiser · 2013-10-25, 16:43

So I got my hands on full raws of volume 10. Witch girl is yet another

Spoiler:

Gx Hero · 2013-10-26, 09:04

It has yet to explain why she had to have artificial arms maybe in future chapters.

Also it is kinda of sad that Belkan royalty would use the cradle when it will do its own thing. Not having control of your self on a huge nearly unstoppable battleshp...

Also that uncontrollable defense program seems to be a common problem on ancient Belka super weapons. The book of Darkness the defense program was to sensitive, the tome of the silver cross tried to protect Thoma from everything even if it was making things worse, and the cradle whose defense program uses the kaiser in the same fashion the silver cross dose, and the tome of the night sky ... eliminate everything friend foe alike.

Oh and Emperor Invalt better have had an arranged marriage otherwise we can honestly say Olive was not his true love after all we have his desendant einhart Stratos.

Petty Ixpellia didn't wake up and participate, being an anceint king she would have fit perfectly in helping Einheart quail her demons of not being strong enough.

Lastly they should have had einheart interact with the wolkenriter more since they have memories of the ancient past and thus more of a right to talk of that era.

Justin_Brett · 2013-10-26, 18:33

Clearly Olivie turned Klaus down because Jeremiah was her true love.

Rising Dragon · 2013-10-26, 19:25

Given themes and circumstances, I always thought that Klaus and Olivie saw themselves more as siblings rather than lovers. Nanoha's themes were always about family, and we know Klaus A) had descendents that inherited his genetics and memories and B) died shortly after Olivie did. Not exactly time to start a family after she died, so he HAD to have been married or had children before his final battle with Olivie.

mechdra · 2013-11-15, 21:21

The chinese scan for Memories 50 is out yesterday. Fabia can transform into adult mode too! That girl is quite good looking in her barrier jacket and she is strong too.

Keroko · 2013-11-16, 17:03

.... I know the actual reason is 'fanservice' but there's this voice in the back of my head nagging that she's a ranged fighter who works with curses and familiars. What's the point of her having an adult mode?

mechdra · 2013-11-16, 18:22

Possibly to show who got the biggest boobs among the girls. By the looks of it Sieg is losing there without including Ix.

Akiyoshi · 2013-11-16, 19:03

I'm waiting for context i wonder if her adult mode is somewhat related to Sieglinde's de-aging

Lhklan · 2013-11-17, 02:57

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Originally Posted by Keroko

.... I know the actual reason is 'fanservice' but there's this voice in the back of my head nagging that she's a ranged fighter who works with curses and familiars. What's the point of her having an adult mode?

Probably something like: Older = Bigger magic pool => More power for curses and familiars.

fukarming · 2013-11-17, 03:11

With Fabia beating up Lutecia, it confirms that the TSAB don't need to pay any full time employee. All they need are some underage children and they can deter threats as big as the Jail incident.

novalysis · 2013-11-17, 04:05

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Originally Posted by fukarming

With Fabia beating up Lutecia, it confirms that the TSAB don't need to pay any full time employee. All they need are some underage children and they can deter threats as big as the Jail incident.

Lutecia might have been under the limiter that reduced her to a D Class mage - and not authorized to release her limiters by her own. If that's the case, and Fabia was a Fate or Nanoha tier prodigy, and NOT under a limiter, I think it's going to end with Lutecia getting thrashed.

Now, if Fabia defeated Lutecia without those D Rank Limiters that the TSAB slapped on Lutecia after the Jail Incident, I would agree with you. I imagine without those limiters though, the destruction to public property would likely be immense.

Edit: Further Observations from Chapter 50: Lutecia's Barrier Jacket was not even out during the battle, if I am looking at things correctly, so that's another handicap. Also, it doesn't appear that she's been outright defeated - merely driven into a corner. Vivio's appearance merely conforms to the Shounen cliche of one character swooping in to save the day for the other character. I don't think Lutecia was being as serious here as in Striker S, nor was she fighting at her Striker S power. Also, keep in mind that what makes her really dangerous are her familiars? Where's Garyuu, or her bugs or her other summons? No where to be found in this battle - again, if I'm reading things correctly here.

Basically, Fabia beat a Lutecia who has one hand tied behind her back.

Now, if Fabia slapped Hayate around... actually, I wouldn't call it BS, because Hayate sucks at close quarter combat anyway. It would be utterly hilarious though, if Signum shows up to save the day.

Spoiler for Force Spoiler:

Akiyoshi · 2013-11-17, 05:16

Agreed, from the looks of it Lutecia wasn't at the top of her game when assaulting Fabia. Or more likely it seems that Lulu just got a bit too cocky over getting everything under control while she didn't expected Fabia still had an extra Ace under her sleeve.

Keroko · 2013-11-17, 05:49

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Originally Posted by Lhklan

Probably something like: Older = Bigger magic pool => More power for curses and familiars.

But it's just transformation magic, might give you reach and strength but it shouldn't affect your magic pool.

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Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

Agreed, from the looks of it Lutecia wasn't at the top of her game when assaulting Fabia. Or more likely it seems that Lulu just got a bit too cocky over getting everything under control while she didn't expected Fabia still had an extra Ace under her sleeve.

Just a teensy bit irked that it's once again Einhart stealing the show, though.

Akiyoshi · 2013-11-17, 05:53

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Just a teensy bit irked that it's once again Einhart stealing the show, though.

Me as well but somewhat mitigated because at the end Fabia was stopped by the combined effort of everyone. The handcuffs Lutecia used to de-activate her transformation at the end where from Els?

mechdra · 2013-11-17, 06:34

I believe Lutecia did not go all out yet. If she win now, there is nothing to see in her match with Fabia during the tournament.

APNki · 2013-11-17, 06:58

Chinese scan for chapter 51 is also out, the fight has ended and it's now on to the

Spoiler for next arc:

Justin_Brett · 2013-11-17, 19:30

In this chapter, Vivio holds hands with a girl to distract her so Einhart and Lutecia can slip the handcuffs on and...wait.

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Enternal Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I was more surprised that Fate and Nanoha did not go with them... ok I was surprised for the wrong thing but still sad not to see Fate, Hayate, and Nanoha together again and meeting up with Yuuno as well. Anyways, security? I'm also quite surprised how she managed to get in so let see if it gets explained. I'm more assuming that security really is tight and not cracked up like the examples Craxuan gave us (which is depressing by the way). __________________ Falcom Collections - A Wallpaper Archives of Trails in the Sky, Ys, and Other Games by Falcom

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00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	So I got my hands on full raws of volume 10. Witch girl is yet another Spoiler: decendant of an ancient belka figure. Either that or she actually is the figure in question. Said figure is some sort of dog/fox girl (Tsuzuki has spent too much time on Dog Days, apparently), that knew Olivie, Claus, and Jerimiah. She causes so much trouble because her magic does some strange stuff, like shrink people into bottles or de-age them. Rio finds a book that is Jerimiah's diary or something and we see his first meeting with Olivie when they were kids. She has no arms, but has some fancy footwork. __________________

2013-10-26, 09:04	Link #3025
Gx Hero Rambler Join Date: Jul 2013	It has yet to explain why she had to have artificial arms maybe in future chapters. Also it is kinda of sad that Belkan royalty would use the cradle when it will do its own thing. Not having control of your self on a huge nearly unstoppable battleshp... Also that uncontrollable defense program seems to be a common problem on ancient Belka super weapons. The book of Darkness the defense program was to sensitive, the tome of the silver cross tried to protect Thoma from everything even if it was making things worse, and the cradle whose defense program uses the kaiser in the same fashion the silver cross dose, and the tome of the night sky ... eliminate everything friend foe alike. Oh and Emperor Invalt better have had an arranged marriage otherwise we can honestly say Olive was not his true love after all we have his desendant einhart Stratos. Petty Ixpellia didn't wake up and participate, being an anceint king she would have fit perfectly in helping Einheart quail her demons of not being strong enough. Lastly they should have had einheart interact with the wolkenriter more since they have memories of the ancient past and thus more of a right to talk of that era. __________________ My site full of Nanoha goodies, manga and fanfiction downloads and links http://nanohamanga.webs.com/ Links to other Nanoha stories on animesuki http://www.mediafire.com/view/yp9qlj...e%20links.docx

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Given themes and circumstances, I always thought that Klaus and Olivie saw themselves more as siblings rather than lovers. Nanoha's themes were always about family, and we know Klaus A) had descendents that inherited his genetics and memories and B) died shortly after Olivie did. Not exactly time to start a family after she died, so he HAD to have been married or had children before his final battle with Olivie. __________________

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mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	The chinese scan for Memories 50 is out yesterday. Fabia can transform into adult mode too! That girl is quite good looking in her barrier jacket and she is strong too. Last edited by mechdra; 2013-11-15 at 21:33.

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Meltyred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Short Answer: Magic. She's a witch, of course that what she would use.

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Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Clearly Olivie turned Klaus down because Jeremiah was her true love.

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Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	.... I know the actual reason is 'fanservice' but there's this voice in the back of my head nagging that she's a ranged fighter who works with curses and familiars. What's the point of her having an adult mode?

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mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Possibly to show who got the biggest boobs among the girls. By the looks of it Sieg is losing there without including Ix.

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Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	I'm waiting for context i wonder if her adult mode is somewhat related to Sieglinde's de-aging __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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fukarming Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	With Fabia beating up Lutecia, it confirms that the TSAB don't need to pay any full time employee. All they need are some underage children and they can deter threats as big as the Jail incident. __________________ They came first for sharks fin,I didn't speak up because I don't eat sharks fin. Then they came for foie gras,I didn't speak up because I don't eat foie gras. Then they came for Toro (bluefin tuna) sushi,I didn't speak up because I don't eat sushi. Then they came for me and force me to be a vegan by that time no one was left to speak up.

2013-11-17, 05:16	Link #3035
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Agreed, from the looks of it Lutecia wasn't at the top of her game when assaulting Fabia. Or more likely it seems that Lulu just got a bit too cocky over getting everything under control while she didn't expected Fabia still had an extra Ace under her sleeve. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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mechdra Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	I believe Lutecia did not go all out yet. If she win now, there is nothing to see in her match with Fabia during the tournament.

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APNki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada	Chinese scan for chapter 51 is also out, the fight has ended and it's now on to the Spoiler for next arc: flashback arc of Claus's and Olivie's time together starting next chapter.

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Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	In this chapter, Vivio holds hands with a girl to distract her so Einhart and Lutecia can slip the handcuffs on and...wait.