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| 4-5 Star (Heart warming, Breath Taking) |
   
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63 | 51.22% |
| 3-4 Star (Great!!) |
  
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29 | 23.58% |
| 2-3 Star (Some flaws Detected) |
  
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22 | 17.89% |
| 1-2 Star (Not interested...) |
  
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4 | 3.25% |
| This is one damn lousy series |
  
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5 | 4.07% |
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2004-01-12, 20:54
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hospital
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Da Capo.. Now I watched the first episode and I thought it was going to be hentai, then as it progressed I was like like what the hell... A girl was scared to go to the movies, love stories bore me also?! How can you people watch this absolute crap. At least I think it was the first episode of Da Capo I watched..
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2004-01-12, 21:12
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☼~永遠なる青~☼
Join Date: Dec 2003
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.....You need to watch more than one episode to get the idea of it, a lot of people just completely gave up on it beacuse the first few episodes had like no plot line to it. Don't call it crap, especially if you haven't seen at least up to episode 17 or so. |
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2004-01-12, 21:32
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 41
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If you don't like the genre, don't act so surprised that you don't like this show. Sorry that it didn't meet your expectations, but if you removed the romantic drama from Da Capo, you wouldn't have much left... that's what makes it so good, to those of us who like the genre. Even for the original game... without the story, it would just be a bunch of hentai pictures, and that would make for a pretty lame and shallow game... |
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2004-01-12, 21:49
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Da Capo has been a great series so far and its been a decent follow-up after finishing kimi ga nozomu eien but too bad it lacked a plot in the first several episodes...cant wait until the final ep is complete! ^^
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2004-01-13, 00:05
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Gomen asobase desuwa!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Age: 43
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ero = o the word "hentai," is an old term that no one in Japan (otaku and regular people alike) do not use anymore. Please start to refer to this these types of games as "ero-games" from now on. As for "hentai pictures," they will be referred to as "ero-pictures." Basically, the word "ero" stems from the English word "erotic." The word "hentai" has gone into oblivion by the late 1990s as these types of games became more story-centered, and it was weird to refer to these games as a whole genre as "hentai," which was in correlation to kichiku-type (rape, bondage, tentacles) of games as in the early days of Silky's and Elf. Therefore, by the late 1990s, people just started to drop the whole "hentai" gig and started to call them "ero" instead. I hope this word begins to catch on in countries outside of Japan. |
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2004-01-13, 00:09
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Uber Coffee for da win!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Middle of insanity
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Ero?? SO is that why I'm hearing some of the people in the newer series talking about ero this and ero that. Hmm.
Probubly a stupid question, but why'd they stop using the word Hentai to describe these? |
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2004-01-13, 00:25
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 41
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Thanks for the information kj1980! Ero and ero-games it is! I am so glad the genre (or at least part of it?) moved beyond the old hardcore style and became more story-centered, because it sure has resulted in some beautiful stories, like Da Capo! My desire to play this game hasn't changed...
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2004-01-13, 01:10
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Gomen asobase desuwa!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Age: 43
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The actual original dictionary definition for "hentai" is "someone who acts strangely." Technically, by the old terminology, oh let's say...someone who wore hats on their feet and shoes on their head would be coined as "being a hentai." Flash foward to the 1960s. The world was going through a counterculture revolution - anti-war, sexual openness, etc. Japan was no exception. Sex, started becoming more open, as the young postwar generation began to rebel against the older prewar generation. By means of media and slang term, someone started using "ecchi" as a replacement for sex. The actual Japanese word for "sexual intercourse" is "seikoui." But then again, who the heck is going to use "Let's have sexual intercourse" when a shorter, blunter version "Let's fuck" is available? Same thing in Japan, rather than saying "Anata to seikoui shitai" (I want to have sexual intercourse with you), a shorter, blunter saying "Ecchi shiyouze" (Let's fuck) is available. By now, I take it that most people here knows that the word "ecchi" stems from Japanese pronounciation for the English letter "H" - the first letter in the romanized word for "hentai." Due to this use of "ecchi/hentai" as a replacement for "sex" in the 1960s, the word stuck into the Japanese that "ecchi" (or in Japanese usage, we just write the English alphabet "H" for sex) meant sex (or at least sexual content). By 1980s and early 1990s, we started seeing porno anime and porno games in Japan. In Japan, these were referred to simply as "H-anime" (ecchi-anime) and "H-games" (ecchi-games). For some reason, in the overseas, you guys understood that "ecchi" (H) meant the first letter for the word "hentai," so you began to refer to these animes and games as "hentai anime" and "hentai games." (While in Japan, we never used those...we just used the letter "H" only). And as these games became more and more hardcore with rape, bondage, and tentacles, you guys began to refer to these pictures as being "hentai," whereas in Japan, we just referred to them as being "H-scenes" (ecchi-scenes). But somewhere around the mid 1990s, (some say it began with Leaf's "Shizuku" and "Kizuato," others point a little later to "To Heart") these games gradually began to distance itself from hardcore pornography to story-centric love-simulation games (many point to the immense success of Konami's "Tokimeki Memorial" that started this whole love-sim phenomena). When one company made a huge success in story-based games, many other companies followed. Suddenly, these games weren't just about sex anymore. They actually began to put real effort into actually great stories. And as more and more of these games began to hit the shelves, more and more of us began to ponder: these aren't just "ecchi games" (sex-only games), these are rather "games with actually great stories that just happen to have sex scenes in them." Hence, a new terminology began to appear (by word of mouth, by mass media, etc.) and gradually the terminology "H-anime/H-games" (ecchi-anime/ecchi-games) began to disappear in replacement of "ero-anime/ero-games." For some reason, at least in Japanese minds, the English word "erotic" is less objective than the blunt word "sex." So, rather than the blunt "just sex games" (sex = "ecchi") we began to use the more toned down version of "games with erotic scenes in them (erotic = shortened to "ero" in Japanese)." By the late 1990s, the word "hentai/ecchi" was dead. It still is used for the action verb "let's fuck" (ecchi shiyouze) in everyday language, but the usage of the word "hentai/ecchi" as an adjective had disappeared. It has been replaced by the term "ero." So, from now on, the word "hentai anime," "hentai games," "hentai pictures," and "hentai scenes" are all words that no one in Japan uses anymore. Start using the word "ero-anime," "ero-games," "ero-pictures," and "ero-scenes (actually the actual word in Japanese for "ero-pictures" is "ero-gazou," but that's going too extreme). |
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2004-01-14, 08:19
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i am the mist
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Japan
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Thanks for clearing that up! I wanna ask though if 'bishoujo-game' is also a correct or accurate term for an ero-game. For me it's less vulgar to say bishoujo than ero, and even more so than h or hentai even, but I'm probably the only one using that term...
Dialogue: Friend: What is Da Capo? Me: It's an anime coming from a bishoujo game. Friend: Bishoujo game? What the heck is that? Me: Umm (saying in whispery voice), it's a hentai game, hentai. |
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2004-01-14, 12:11
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Age: 40
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Mind you, bishoujo game doesn't always mean it has adult content, where as ero-game very clearly does. Gal-game is a term you'll find more in the non-adult market... I personally use bishoujo games for games that are plot centered, but do have adult content, ero-game for games that are centered on the adult content (Like most of elf's, and alicesoft games), and kichiku-game for very dark games. But don't take my word for it, kj1980 is japanese and hence would be better at explaining it than me. |
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2004-01-14, 13:55
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Gomen asobase desuwa!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Age: 43
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You got the gist of it.
(Probably its a VERY bad analogy, I know) Think of sports cars and the term "bishoujo game" in this way: Sports Cars A. "normal sports cars" - ones that are pretty fast and that don't cost too much (Nissan Skyline GT-R, Ford Mustang, Toyota Supra) B. "crazy sports cars" - ones that are extremely fast and unless you happen to be rich, it will only be in your dreams (Ferrari Enzo model, Lamborghini Diablo, Shelby Cobra) Bishoujo Games A. "gal-games" - games that feature pretty girls and that don't have any ero-scenes (Tokimeki Memorial, Sentimental Graffitti, most PC-to-console coverts) B. "ero-games" - games (usually made for PC) that feature pretty girls and have ero-scenes (PC version Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, PC version D.C.~da capo~, PC version To Heart, etc.) And of course, you can sub-categorize "ero-games" further into "jun-ai" (love centered), "kichiku" (hardcore), etc.... it can go on as much as you want. But generally, the majority of the Japanese otaku population categorizes "bishoujo-game" into two categories: one without ero-scenes (gal-games) and ones with ero-scenes (ero-games). |
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2004-01-14, 16:35
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i am the mist
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Japan
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Thanks! I need to get used to my friends generally calling those games Hentai-Game though...
Dialogue: Me: Please find me that Sister Princess game! Friend: Hmm... is it hentai? Me: No! Friend: Ohh, too bad <---- likes H-Games Back to Da Capo. Because it's already near ep. 26 there will be no more 'closure' episodes dedicated to the Mizukoshi sisters! Why oh why? By the looks of it they seem to be the most 'normal' girls of the bunch (though Moe is a bit of a klutz [no she's too much a klutz already]). I guess they weren't affected by the sakura tree's magic... But normal stories often lead to the most endearing drama. I already heard some of Moe's backstory in the game (very nice), but I wanna know more about Mako though (in the game at least). She's too cute lately to just let her pack up and leave in the anime. |
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2004-01-17, 22:05
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 41
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Also, I second the question about the Da Capo manga... |
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2004-01-17, 22:24
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Somewhere in Hawaii
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2004-01-19, 07:32
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Somewhere in Hawaii
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