2011-05-09, 18:48 | Link #3202 |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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Kyon only noticed this kind of stuff because the powers that be came out and revealed themselves to him. If Itsuki/Yuki/Mikuru stopped filling him in he'd be hard pressed to notice most of these things.
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2011-05-09, 21:32 | Link #3203 | |
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2011-05-09, 22:00 | Link #3204 | ||
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Hmmm that gives me a fanfic idea--Haruhi decides to start a student newspaper and subconsciously creates some of the "scoops" so that she will have something awesome to report on. Feel free to grab the idea for your own if any of you want to write it up. Quote:
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2011-05-10, 09:39 | Link #3205 | |
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Remember that Itsuki holds firm to his agency's beliefs too. Him and tsuruya wouldn't get along so well if he knew she was siding with his rival. |
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2011-05-10, 11:12 | Link #3206 |
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Itsuki was given explicit orders that Tsuruya is out of bounds for him. Tsuruya is the sole heir of the family; for all intent and purposes she is a princess in all but name. You don't mess with your sponsor's princess, who just might become your new boss one day.
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2011-05-11, 05:53 | Link #3208 | |
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2011-05-11, 08:12 | Link #3209 | |
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Esper powers don't put food on the table. For one reason or another, the Tsuruya-clan decided that they would sponsor the Esper organisation. They control the purse-strings. And one day, Tsuruya as the sole heir would inherit everything. Now do you understand why she is kind of a big deal?
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2011-05-11, 12:02 | Link #3211 | |
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Also, your super natural powers won't help you if the Tsuruya's decide to pay a mob hitman (assuming they AREN'T the mob, and can't just order one of their own) to shoot you. |
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2011-05-11, 17:12 | Link #3213 | |
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2011-05-11, 20:56 | Link #3214 | |
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A later event would: Spoiler for very light and vague spoilers for the next unanimated story arc:
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2011-05-12, 00:26 | Link #3215 |
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Unless they have been mentally conditions to think they way for generations. Think that destiny is unchangable, even to the point were one that wants to change time would still think it was inevitable even if they tried to change it because history showed they tried to change it.
Makes me wonder sometimes...Are the events that happen in the "present" truly fixed, or does the future update each time something happens...to the point where the time travelers in the "present" don't really notice the change. It just that something happens, then they remember it to have happened already. Mikuru(BIG) possibly having the only real advantage, being in the "present" to remember as her (small) self.
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2011-05-12, 00:48 | Link #3216 |
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It is implied in the series that knowing the "correct" version of events (as opposed to having a mistaken knowledge or having been lied to) eliminates the actors' free will regarding the details that they have pre-knowledge of. For example, when Kyon
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Beyond this, Fujiwara also implies that, much as he would like to be able to change events, he can't do so even if he wanted to--he could only alter tiny things that had no impact on the large scale events that he knew had/would happen. Instead, he is limited to convincing those who don't have such knowledge to act, but doing so without imparting knowledge of what they would have done had he not interfered. This would be why Mikuru (big) is so careful about how much she allows her younger self (and Kyon) to know--because the moment any detail about a person's actions at a particular time is known by that person (including the fact of them not being in a certain location), then that detail is no longer in that person's power to alter. A convenient way to look at it would be as a sort of quantum observation principle. Just like a particle exists in multiple potential states until an observation defines it as a single state, time exists in multiple potential states until observation defines it. Any person can thus potentially take any possible path except those that are prohibited by existing observations. The interesting thing in Haruhi though, is that each person's timeline is personal--if Mikuru knows that Kyon will be in the club room at 4:02, but Kyon does not, then Kyon still has liberty to change his own actions--though he will not change them unless given some reason to change them--however this reason must be one that does not inform him that he would certainly have arrived at 4:02 in the absence of interference. In other words, he can change his actions, but only if he is not certainly aware that he is changing them. |
2011-05-19, 10:36 | Link #3217 | |
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2011-09-14, 09:57 | Link #3220 | |
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To which your mind goes "bunny girls == Haruhi." Ha! Totally see the resemblance. In fact, before I read your text, I thought, "Didn't I just close my 'Images of Haruhi Suzumiya' tab?"
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