2009-11-02, 21:03 | Link #2561 | |
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2009-11-03, 12:56 | Link #2563 | |
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In regards to this I think this ending was good. I would have loved it if it had a happy end and at that one that included Cal as well but the whole story pointed in the opposite direction. Though your point is still valid. |
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2009-11-04, 04:58 | Link #2564 |
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Well Interesting enough just after the anime ended. A xbox 360 port of Phantom: Phantom of Inferno was announced with the character designs of the anime! Release date is said to be summer 2010. You cant help but wonder if it affected some of the decisions in the last couple of episodes.
[Bigger version] Only got so much with google translation, so it would be nice if anyone is able to add more detail about it. |
2009-11-04, 07:44 | Link #2565 | |
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I doubt it would be anything like the VN though, I think it's going to be an action-adventure/third-person shooter video game.
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2009-11-04, 09:24 | Link #2567 |
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Now all I need is an Xbox
If it's indeed a VN I want a happy end with both Elen and Cal ^^ Or at least with Cal where her life doesn't get so messed up in the end. I hate it when because of a really simple to avoid thing a character's life goes wrong. Hope the game also gets distributed outside Japan though isnce some VN stay exclusive for the region. |
2009-11-04, 11:02 | Link #2568 | |
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"I(we) shall leave a tiny bit of 'magic' in the end. It would be boring for the truth to be known wouldn't it?"-At least this is the way i feel. On this i will use a quote from Dr. Greg House; "If the magic's gone when the truth is known, there wasn't any magic..." |
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2009-11-04, 11:41 | Link #2569 | |
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Another thing I dind't mention earlier was that even if they seemed like they have superpowers at some point that wasn't true. They were just normal people which have been really well trained and have extremely good reflexes, steady hand and eyesight that makes them really well suited to be assassins. So it's natural that if someone is trying to kill them the moment they let their guard down thy're as good as dead. And that's exactly what happened. Yes if they did say if they were 100% dead it would have made all these discussions pointless in the first place. I believe the reason why they didn't do it was -first because they hoped viewrs will like it since the ones that want to believe thy're alive get their end and the ones that think they're dead get theirs as well. The second thing is that in the game it ends right before this last scene so in there they're alive. Thus if they kill them with and the show it clearly the game fans will not be happy to see it. And the reason they wanted to kill them? It was to close the whole story which had the same theme (which is stated right before the second ED by Elen) - "we are ghost that can't exist anywhere". This was shown many times in the series so it was natural to end with the same thing. They showed us that everything they try is pointless and at the moment they think they've found even a small light in their lives it all goes to hell. But as I said there would have been many people who wouldn't like that (them dying for sure I mean) Then again it seems it had the opposite effect. |
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2009-11-04, 11:50 | Link #2570 |
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For me it's not a matter of whether they are 100% dead or not, but a execution matter. That is, for me, they're as dead as they can possibly be (Reiji getting shot and falling down, blank stare Elen, both seem pretty dead in my mind), but the director chose to not make their deaths vulgar and profound but more like in tune with the whole "Phantoms are ghosts, Phantoms are no longer Phantoms fade away (instead of having their innards splashed all over the place and dying in agonizing screams)" idea.
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2009-11-04, 18:48 | Link #2571 |
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Reiji is 99.9999999999% dead imo. Elen's status can either be associated with lazy animators not showing signs of breathing or even blinking due to BeeTrain and their usual long pans while music plays or she just, died. She's alive in my eyes though. I bet this ending will also be in the xbox 360 port .
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2009-11-05, 12:50 | Link #2573 |
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it was licensed by funi, they subbed the show while it aired. As for a dub release it likely wont be out until next year.
Cant believe ppl are still talking in this topic haha. End sucked tho AOE are normally not very good anyway. Basically if ya dont like the end just stop at the ep where he heads to the chapel and pick the ending from the VN you liked and imagine thats how it ends up. I was a cal fan so i like to think they hooked up and heading to mexico on their next bounty haha
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2009-11-06, 19:55 | Link #2574 | ||
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Nitro+ have already just released Steins;Gate, straight to the Xbox360, (love to play it!) and a port of Chaos;head this year. So its a system they have no problem with releasing there work on. My guess though after it comes out on the Xbox360 sometime after it will be released on the PC, there would be no reason for them not to. This year it was Nitro+ 10th anniversary and they released a few thing for it, but next year is Phantom's 10th anniversary (as mentioned below) and this serves as their big project. Well I asked someone to give and confirm some detail of it. Thanks to relentlessflame for this Quote:
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2009-11-07, 03:12 | Link #2575 | |
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They NEVER had anything above natural powers... But their awareness was on max level... Reiji let his guard down around Mio once and he was a sitting duck for Cal. So it's a bit hard to swallow that Reiji who had that determination to live + this experience with Cal would ever let his guard down again. Yea he is human but they made him psychologically ultra stable... |
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2009-11-08, 11:25 | Link #2577 | |
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Their awareness was indeed on a completely different level but then again people tend to drop their guard when they're happy. There's no way you can be always aware of everything around you unless you're in a kill or be killed situation every day - like they were in the beginning. All it takes to die is a single second. Sicnce he is human and in that moment he was really happy to see Elen happy it felt more real for him to let his guard down and he got shot. I think that a person never realizes he has dropped his guard until something happens and in most cases by then it's too late. |
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2009-11-09, 15:14 | Link #2578 | |
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2009-11-09, 17:41 | Link #2579 | ||
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2009-11-09, 19:16 | Link #2580 |
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Whole ending sucked so bad.. I hated this anime. Dead or Alive? Most likely dead. What was the reason for killing them when all they wanted to do is to live a normal life out of everyones eyes. It wasn't until Sythe Master came back that they were even hunted again. Another anime to be deleted off my HDD because it had a sucky ending.
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