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Old 2020-10-30, 21:15   Link #61
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Well cant really blame the monsters attacking after what they did to Wiene
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Old 2020-10-30, 22:41   Link #62
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Well it is hardly shocking to see things head in this direction. Chaos is going to be the understatement of the year if things continue in this direction. Understandable for those harmed to want to save their friends and get payback. But they are poking a hornets nest. No idea if they can even handle the Ikelos Familia anyways. Beyond that though they run the risk of getting an army of angry adventurers that are far more powerful than them storming in.

And of course Bell is getting dragged right into the middle of this by himself. Of course saving Wiene is a hugely important matter. So I'm all for doing that. Just not sure how this is going to work out.
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Old 2020-10-31, 09:12   Link #63
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I'm hoping the Ikelos familia will be dealt with quickly. They did their job kick-starting the main plot, now kill them off. They're just cackling villains.
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Old 2020-10-31, 10:26   Link #64
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First season of the anime had 13 episodes, which used up 5 volume of novels. The second season of anime had 12 episodes, and used 3 volume of novels. This season, it looks like they will go over at least 3 volumes as well. So after this season of anime is over, that means they've used up 11 volumes of novels. Currently, there are 16 volumes available, so if they wanted to do another season, it is possible.


Nothing shows how vile a bad guy is in anime than with attempted rape.


The Xenos keeps mentioning a powerful, new member. I wonder how powerful that individual is? Will it be another girl to protect Bell, while at the same time, become part of his ever expanding harem?!?!?


At times, the pacing the last 2 season of the anime seems like it is dragging. I guess that is the effect when they go through only 3 volumes of the novel for an anime season, compared to 5 volumes the first season. Personally, I think 4 volumes per season is about right, since in truth, the main thing I want to see each season is when Bell kicks butt.
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Old 2020-10-31, 12:26   Link #65
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Personally, I think 4 volumes per season is about right, since in truth, the main thing I want to see each season is when Bell kicks butt.
That said that comes at the cost of the anime blitzing through all the slow, character development moments. Which is all fine when you consume all the media since the anime just becomes a showcase of the best action moments of the series, but as a result a lot of the side characters lose their scenes that gives them more depth.
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Old 2020-11-02, 00:27   Link #66
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There are really only 2 characters in the main Hestia group that I have a vested interest for development, and they are Bell and Welf. The rest haven't really shown much development or brought enough relatability for me to want to invest in them. Lili usually ends up as the bad guy, Hestia is always hyper slapstick comedy, Mikoto is just there, and Haruhime is just a damsel in distress. They are characters that I can't relate to or have enough sympathy to care about.


Bell is the one I mostly care about, as he is the main protagonist and his development is key to the story. Welf is a fallen from grace looking for redemption type of guy and is generally a great guy.


Aside from that, the other minor characters, Ais and Ryuu are characters I like, but they don't get much development because they are not part of the Hestia group. Freya, Hermes, Eina, Asfi, Loki, and Syr are all even further away and don't really need development unless they play some part of the story of Bell.


If a story focuses too much on all the side characters, then it starts to lose focus, and the story wavers. It's usually best to focus on what the story is about and the main cast. At the end of the day, what I care most for in this show is the development of Bell and not so much for the rest of the characters. Ais has her own show, so no need to use up time for her development here. The only ones left that I might relate to Welf and Ryuu, which, if their plots become relevant again to the story, then at that point, I would love to see character development as it relates to the story, not as a side story.
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Old 2020-11-02, 02:03   Link #67
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Yeah, the side characters kinda fall into the background lately. I'll say, though, that they were introduced well into the group, each one of them. That continues to play dividends with me, so I still care about them quite a lot.
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Old 2020-11-06, 13:05   Link #68
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Man, even I have to side with the monsters and their righteous raid against the humans on this one after what I saw last week .

Poor Modoka. None of his Familia leaders remember his name .

It would probably be easier for Bell to just leave things be, but he's too good a guy to just leave the Xenos to fend for themselves .

I'm guessing Lyu got that eye from one of the Evilus members she fought in the past. I'm kind of wondering if there's a reckoning between her and the Ikelos Familia in the future .

Since the Ganesha Familia is using non-lethal methods, I'm guessing any Xenos they capture get released back into the Dungeon covertly since Ganesha knows they're already sentient. At least I hope that's what happens .

The tragedy of Daedelus. He was a brilliant craftsman and builder, but he became so obsessed with the dungeon and building upon it that he dedicated his entire livelihood to crafting Knossos, and seemingly dooming his descendants to carry on his work .

Also, if those eyes are connected to the Daedelus genes of their descendants, that means Dix harvested the eyes off the corpses of his own family? That's...pretty morbid .

Time for Bell to finally fight Dix to save the Xenos and Wiene! And it looks like the Xenos' backup is on his way .
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Old 2020-11-06, 14:08   Link #69
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I'm guessing Lyu got that eye from one of the Evilus members she fought in the past. I'm kind of wondering if there's a reckoning between her and the Ikelos Familia in the future .
Anyone associated with Evilus will face a reckoning from Lyu
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Old 2020-11-06, 17:10   Link #70
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Man, even I have to side with the monsters and their righteous raid against the humans on this one after what I saw last week .

Also, if those eyes are connected to the Daedelus genes of their descendants, that means Dix harvested the eyes off the corpses of his own family? That's...pretty morbid .
There was nothing righteous about it. It was childish and stupid if anything. Attacking the village just made them more enemies than there actually were and choosing not to alert Fels was eye-rolling ridiculous. The bigotry at work here is no different than humanity's hatred of monsters.

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Old 2020-11-06, 19:15   Link #71
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There was nothing righteous about it. It was childish and stupid if anything. Attacking the village just made them more enemies than there actually were and choosing not to alert Fels was eye-rolling ridiculous. The bigotry at work here is no different than humanity's hatred of monsters.
I mean, strategically it probably wasn't the smartest move, but they feel like they've been persecuted by their life situation and by adventurers up until this point, so I can understand why they've feel like they've had enough of how things are now and lash out violently to find their kidnapped comrades.
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If I'm understanding what you're insinuating...I think this is getting even creepier .
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Old 2020-11-06, 19:35   Link #72
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Attacking the village was definitely an idiotic move on the Xenos' part, but that came from that dragon guy who was presented to us as distrusting humans from the get go. Of course, the others still chose to follow him. There were only a few like Lyd who were reasonable.

Bell is still level 3, right? Beating Dix will be super tough, even if he's apparently weakened right now. Minotaur will come to the rescue.
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Old 2020-11-06, 20:37   Link #73
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I mean, strategically it probably wasn't the smartest move, but they feel like they've been persecuted by their life situation and by adventurers up until this point, so I can understand why they've feel like they've had enough of how things are now and lash out violently to find their kidnapped comrades.

If I'm understanding what you're insinuating...I think this is getting even creepier .
There is nothing remotely righteous about lashing out, especially when it implicates innocent individuals. Not to mention jeopardizing the lives of people you supposedly care about. Their reckless actions, which could not even be called a plan, endangered their own lives as well as risk exposing their existence to the public, which would potential endanger Wiene's life. Did they really want to save Wiene or was saving her some convenient excuse to "lash out"? I can't tell at this point.

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Attacking the village was definitely an idiotic move on the Xenos' part, but that came from that dragon guy who was presented to us as distrusting humans from the get go. Of course, the others still chose to follow him. There were only a few like Lyd who were reasonable.

Bell is still level 3, right? Beating Dix will be super tough, even if he's apparently weakened right now. Minotaur will come to the rescue.
And they chose to follow him because they shared his feelings and acted on them.
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Old 2020-11-06, 22:06   Link #74
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Well it seem that Bell keeps jumping into the fire it looks like he going to have a hard fight against Dix
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Old 2020-11-06, 23:43   Link #75
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There is nothing remotely righteous about lashing out, especially when it implicates innocent individuals. Not to mention jeopardizing the lives of people you supposedly care about. Their reckless actions, which could not even be called a plan, endangered their own lives as well as risk exposing their existence to the public, which would potential endanger Wiene's life. Did they really want to save Wiene or was saving her some convenient excuse to "lash out"? I can't tell at this point.
I definitely think it was a mix of the two because they were concerned about their comrades but were also frustrated and resentful at their treatment by the humans.
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Old 2020-11-08, 00:14   Link #76
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Not exactly shocked by the actions of the Xenos. Be it monsters or humans...I don't think many are calm, cool, and collected after their friends and comrades have been either slaughtered or kidnapped. I'm hardly going to take shots at them for that. Since I'm hardly going to pretend I'd be calm in their position.

Going to be some brutal irony if Bell needs to be saved by an intelligent minotaur...
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Old 2020-11-08, 01:40   Link #77
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Oh, sure, when Liam Neeson or Keanu Reeves do it, it's cool, but when it's a talking lizard, all of a sudden you've got to consider the wider implications of the cycle of violence...
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Old 2020-11-08, 12:31   Link #78
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Oh, sure, when Liam Neeson or Keanu Reeves do it, it's cool, but when it's a talking lizard, all of a sudden you've got to consider the wider implications of the cycle of violence...
Eh, I don't remember those two killing innocents in the process of their vengeance, but I haven't watched all the relevant movies. Now that I think about it, were we told the Xenos killed adventurers? Destroying the town doesn't necessarily mean killing its residents. I wouldn't be surprised if we were told they only killed Ikelos familia members (they even made a point to show us they can tell them apart by smell) and just kicked the others' butts while defending themselves.
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Old 2020-11-08, 13:58   Link #79
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Eh, I don't remember those two killing innocents in the process of their vengeance, but I haven't watched all the relevant movies. Now that I think about it, were we told the Xenos killed adventurers? Destroying the town doesn't necessarily mean killing its residents. I wouldn't be surprised if we were told they only killed Ikelos familia members (they even made a point to show us they can tell them apart by smell) and just kicked the others' butts while defending themselves.
I'm not sure if they even killed anyone from the Ikelos Familia. It looks like they were just hunting down the three that Ranieh marked with her poison.
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Old 2020-11-13, 12:37   Link #80
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On some level I kinda feel bad for Dix considering being driven by an insatiable urge to build a never-ending labyrinth is probably a terrible fate to be left with, but satiating that urge by becoming a monster sadist isn't the healthiest alternative, especially once you set your sights on sentient monsters .

So, yeah, the Xenos' secret weapon is actually a minotaur, Bell's old buddy. I can't wait for Bell to meet them and get acquainted. And now a bunch of Ganesha Familia, Aisha, Asfi, and Lyu will have to wonder how they got taken out by a minotaur and not killed .

Oof, Wiene losing her crystal and going feral was tough to watch, especially seeing her attack Bell. But then you see that, even in-spite of that, she was still sentient and could recognize Bell. Maybe not enough to control herself, but enough to where it's clear she's still in there. Not that Dix seemed happy about it .

Bell teaming-up with Lyd and Argonaut Punching Dix into a wall was so satisfying...although it would've been more satisfying if Dix had stayed down and not gotten away after making an even bigger mess. I can't wait until this piece of @#$% gets his .

Bell is totally growing on Gros, isn't he ?

Well, now things have officially gone off the rails as Wiene is driven in a feral state straight to the surface to wreak some havoc, leaving Bell having to defend her from the Loki Familia who have no idea what's going on and probably think Bell's gone insane. Looks like we're finally getting the Bell vs. Ais fight .

Bell may be a fool, but heroes are fools who believe in ideals and believe in saving those who deserve saving no matter the circumstances. He wouldn't be Bell otherwise .

I'm guessing the Xenos will pop up on the surface to back Bell up so the Hestia Familia doesn't need to intervene, but then what? Will Bell have to live underground from now on after being seen defending a rampaging monster ?
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