Tate no Yuusha/Shield Hero - Episode 7 Discussion / Poll

[orion]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

At the least I don't like how they decided to make Filo into a direct love rival here. The impression I'd gotten to now has been that she sees him as her daddy, as would be expected of a bird who saw him the moment she popped out of her shell. If they play it off later as an Oedipus complex sort of thing and have her go back to thinking of him as a father I'll be fine but it does indeed feel weird for her to want the man she imprinted on as a mate.

It's a similar situation with Raph. Naofumi started out as a master, then father-figure, and now a love interest. I was expecting a harem for Naofumi since this is an isekai title.

[Demi.]

Originally Posted by orion

It's a similar situation with Raph. Naofumi started out as a master, then father-figure, and now a love interest. I was expecting a harem for Naofumi since this is an isekai title.

It's not exactly the same because Raphtalia already had parents. Raphtalia did need a father figure at the time, but he wasn't a father figure for long enough to where that mentality would be ingrained into her. Once she grew older and had the body of an adult, it would only be natural for her to have affection to the one person she admires and loves(and honestly, the only one she spends any meaningful time with) more than anyone else.

For Firo, Naofumi should be imprinted on her as a father. He was the first person she saw when she first hatched and she seemed to think of him as a father in episode 6. Though I think it has to do with instinctual mating more than anything else. As she is a bird, she wants to find a "mate"...I guess. But that's not how the LN conveyed it.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

At the least I don't like how they decided to make Filo into a direct love rival here. The impression I'd gotten to now has been that she sees him as her daddy, as would be expected of a bird who saw him the moment she popped out of her shell. If they play it off later as an Oedipus complex sort of thing and have her go back to thinking of him as a father I'll be fine but it does indeed feel weird for her to want the man she imprinted on as a mate.

That's implying he even sees them in that way at all, which he has not once shown to do so.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero

That's implying he even sees them in that way at all, which he has not once shown to do so.

I know this. I was referring to the girls' behaviors. To Naofumi currently Raphtalia is a daughter and Filo is a pet, while to Raphtalia Naofumi's a crush and to Filo it'd seemed to this point that Naofumi was a father. That was enough on its own for the two of them to have a rivalry.

And I'd say there is a big difference between Raphtalia's and Filo's situation. Filo met Naofumi the moment she hatched and was raised by him from that moment forward. Raphtalia was raised by her parents and grew quite a bit before the wave hit and killed them; she's only known him for a fraction of her life. She wasn't raised from infancy by him, she was saved and taught by him recently. Filo should naturally view Naofumi as a "father", but that image would be harder for Raphtalia to see.

[orion]

Originally Posted by BWTraveller

I know this. I was referring to the girls' behaviors. To Naofumi currently Raphtalia is a daughter and Filo is a pet, while to Raphtalia Naofumi's a crush and to Filo it'd seemed to this point that Naofumi was a father. That was enough on its own for the two of them to have a rivalry.

And I'd say there is a big difference between Raphtalia's and Filo's situation. Filo met Naofumi the moment she hatched and was raised by him from that moment forward. Raphtalia was raised by her parents and grew quite a bit before the wave hit and killed them; she's only known him for a fraction of her life. She wasn't raised from infancy by him, she was saved and taught by him recently. Filo should naturally view Naofumi as a "father", but that image would be harder for Raphtalia to see.

Not really. He still helped raise Raph and like was mentioned before sees her as a daughter. He even told her that.

Just like Filo, he's the only eligible male around for her and she views him as mating material imo.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by orion

Not really. He still helped raise Raph and like was mentioned before sees her as a daughter. He even told her that.

Just like Filo, he's the only eligible male around for her and she views him as mating material imo.

Raphtalia's been with him for at most 0.8% of her life and was raised not knowing him at all for the preceding 99.2%. Filo has known him for 100% of her life. Big difference in my humble opinion. He's a new change to Raphtalia's life who's hardly had enough time for her to view him as a father, but Filo imprinted on him and knew him from her birth. It makes no difference what Naofumi thinks of either of them, so there's no need to bring it up. What matters is that to Raphtalia Naofumi's a person she's known for one month after ten or more years without him, and as such his "raising" amounts to a small piece of her life, albeit a major and life-changing piece, which makes it rather sensible that she'd view him as something other than a father. Filo on the other hand was personally raised by him from an egg, so it is only sensible that she WOULD view him as a parent. Not to mention that her form suggests she's a little young for egg-laying.